[nagdu] Doggie Paws

Sun Apr 22 22:20:48 UTC 2012

Only reason I suggested a textbook opposed to something larger, is because 
there is an ample amount of textbooks in class, which would preclude the 
requirement of bringing something such as a cone expressly for this purpose. 
And, people put textbooks on the ground in class all the time, no one could 
say, especially when it was in front of the dog, that it was placed there 
expressly as a tripping hazard. In my opinion, this is a lot more subtle and 
a lot less aggressive than sticking your foot out or something like that.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lea williams" <leanicole1988 at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggie Paws

> Could you just pay close attenchen or have another student tell you
> when he is coming then as soon as he gets to you, stand up real fast
> and block his way and tell him to be careful of your dog. This way he
> cannot pretend to not notice your dog, if that is what he is doing.
> You dont want him to trip and stumble over the book and might fall on
> your dog or something. Or it could look as if your trying to hurt him
> or cause him indgery . You could, if you do not have a way of knowing
> when he is coming, just stand up and block the ile, or use anything
> larger than a book, and when people come then let them threw as they
> do come. Or while everyone is sitting down, try to get your dog under
> your table with your own leggs in the ile, so they are stumbling over
> you and not the dog? or you could also set your things at the table
> then stand at the frunt or some place out of the way, like pretend to
> go to the bathroom if you have to, so he is already sitting down when
> you get back. This last one can be difficult to always have to do.
>
>
> On 4/22/12, Mark J. Cadigan <kramc11 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> If you and others have reminded him of the dog on multiple occasions, he 
>> has
>> seen the dog several times, and he still continues to step on the dog, 
>> this
>> does not sound like an accident to me. Perhaps, you can put a textbook
>> blocking your dog so that it would get tripped over before your dog. 
>> Then,
>> watch to see what he does, if it is accidental, the textbook will get
>> tripped over, and he will look down, see the dog, and then step around 
>> it.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 2:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggie Paws
>>
>>
>>>I don't think that he is doing it on purpose. However, he is not being
>>>careful enough either.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 10:45 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggie Paws
>>>
>>>
>>>> Do you know the name of the classmate who is abusive to your dog in his
>>>> stepping on your dog?  That is animal cruelity if he goes out of his 
>>>> way
>>>> to come and step on your dog causing pain.  And the college needs to 
>>>> deal
>>>>
>>>> with that student's actions.  After all, animal cruelty is against the
>>>> law!
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like that guy has a mental problem and studies show that people
>>>> who abuse animals are very likely to advance to or are currently 
>>>> abusing
>>>> people - women and children.  If this student has these problems, they
>>>> need to be addressed before something really bad happens to an animal 
>>>> or
>>>> human. It sounds like misplaced aggression towards either you or 
>>>> another
>>>> person and picks on the thing that can't fight back as wwell - your 
>>>> guide
>>>>
>>>> dog.  Have you had problems with this guy in the past?  At any rate, 
>>>> this
>>>>
>>>> needs to be addressed now.
>>>>
>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Juanita Herrera" <juanitaherrera1991 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 10:48 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggie Paws
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> There is this one guy who steps on her every single time we meet for
>>>>> class. I have told him so many times to watch out for my dog but it's
>>>>> as though it goes in one ear and out the other. It's quite
>>>>> frustrating.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/19/12, Lisa belville <missktlab1217 at frontier.com> wrote:
>>>>>> yeah, it's hard to hear their howls of pain, but what's better is the
>>>>>> whole
>>>>>> mushy gushy "Oh, I didn't see him there," Yada Yada Yada.  I 
>>>>>> understand
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> dark dog on a dark floor in a dark room, but in a well lit classroom 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> broad daylight is a bit harder, though I think it's just a case of
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> not used to seeing dogs, and the dog just not even making it past 
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> cursory glances.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1st Law of Procrastination: that which can be done will be done . . .
>>>>>> TOMORROW!!
>>>>>> Lisa Belville
>>>>>> missktlab1217 at frontier.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Tami Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 7:45 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggie Paws
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> actually, nearly getting stepped on a time or two did wonders for
>>>>>>> Mitzi's
>>>>>>> firm conviction that she *needed* to sprawl all over the place. 
>>>>>>> /lol/
>>>>>>> Fortunately, nobody got hurt, but she started being really good at
>>>>>>> figuring out how to be more out of the way. We still have a heck of 
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> in crowded places like the bus or train or in waiting rooms, where
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> isn't really an under. Often, when she shows me a seat, she will 
>>>>>>> pick
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> where she can be tucked away but still watch the action. But I will
>>>>>>> remain
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> permanently nervous about long, black poodle legs! /smile/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tami
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 04/19/2012 11:29 AM, Lisa belville wrote:
>>>>>>>> Oh boy, I had this issue in college, too.  Pretty much every desk 
>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> of those rack things people used to use for putting their books and
>>>>>>>> things on back in the day.  The best thing for me was to sort of
>>>>>>>> parallel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> park Hunter so he'd be positioned on his belly with his paws tucked
>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>> under him as much as possible.  I'd also try putting him at an 
>>>>>>>> angle
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>> his head would be under the desk next to my feet and his back part
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>> be closer to the front of the desk where I could block his paws if 
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>> to.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hunter was a very long dog, though, and this wasn't always 
>>>>>>>> possible.
>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>> sounds mean, but getting stepped on accidentally once or twice
>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>> illustrated the point to Hunter more strongly than I could by 
>>>>>>>> keeping
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> him
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> tucked in.    Not saying you should let people tromp all over your
>>>>>>>> girl's
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> feet or anything.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lisa
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1st Law of Procrastination: that which can be done will be done . . 
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>> TOMORROW!!
>>>>>>>> Lisa Belville
>>>>>>>> missktlab1217 at frontier.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Juanita Herrera"
>>>>>>>> <juanitaherrera1991 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog 
>>>>>>>> Users"
>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 10:50 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggie Paws
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> William, I don't use a backpack. I carry all my stuff in my purse,
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> I'm not a big fan of placing my purse on the ground.
>>>>>>>>> Robert, Thank you. I would do that if our desk chairs didn't have
>>>>>>>>> anything under them. However, under the chairs they decided to put 
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> weird looking basket thing so it is hard to fit my dog.
>>>>>>>>> Has anyone figured out a method to convince their pups to tuck in
>>>>>>>>> their paws? Her body fits perfectly fine under my desk. The only
>>>>>>>>> thing
>>>>>>>>> that sticks out are her paws.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/19/12, Robert Hooper <hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello all:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At my university, I traverse a number of different seating
>>>>>>>>>> arrangements. In
>>>>>>>>>> many class rooms, we have the standard table attached to chair
>>>>>>>>>> arrangement
>>>>>>>>>> in rows. The chairs have no cross-bars, so I just shove Bailey
>>>>>>>>>> under my
>>>>>>>>>> chair. I also get a seat close to a wall. He likes to take up as
>>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>> space
>>>>>>>>>> as possible, so he sprawls out a bit, however I've never really 
>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> problems I anticipated. I recommend putting the dog under the
>>>>>>>>>> chair. I
>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>> have to do any odd positioning with my legs or anything--they 
>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>> stay
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> either side of the dog. In a lecture hall, I lay him sideways in
>>>>>>>>>> front
>>>>>>>>>> of me
>>>>>>>>>> if he won't fit--it makes it hard for people to sit next to me on
>>>>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>>>>> side, but oh well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Robert Hooper
>>>>>>>>>> Hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu
>>>>>>>>>> The Ohio State University
>>>>>>>>>> 0653 Buckeye-Cuyahoga CT
>>>>>>>>>> 653 Cuyahoga Court
>>>>>>>>>> Columbus, Ohio 43210
>>>>>>>>>> (740) 856-8195
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>>> Of Laurel
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:22 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
>>>>>>>>>> Users
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggie Paws
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hey Juanita. Stockard loves to put her paws out and stretch out
>>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes I try to sit on the side of the class room, I'm in
>>>>>>>>>> college
>>>>>>>>>> too,
>>>>>>>>>> and there's usually not as much traffic on the sides. I also use 
>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>> feet to
>>>>>>>>>> help keep her rained in. At GDB they had me put Stockard in a 
>>>>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>>>>> position
>>>>>>>>>> on my left, so what I do is put her down on my left, and put my
>>>>>>>>>> left
>>>>>>>>>> leg
>>>>>>>>>> kind of stretched out on the other side of her. I let her stick 
>>>>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>>>>> feet
>>>>>>>>>> out, but keep my foot on the other side of her feet so people see
>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> step over. Some people get annoyed, but they all never seem to 
>>>>>>>>>> mind
>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>> they realize why my leg is way out there, to protect Stocky's 
>>>>>>>>>> feet.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> don't wanna sit in an uncomfortable way, then I just tuck
>>>>>>>>>> Stockard's
>>>>>>>>>> front
>>>>>>>>>> feet, because it's usually her front feet that shee sticks out, I
>>>>>>>>>> tuck
>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>> behind my foot and keep her feet between her and my leg with my 
>>>>>>>>>> leg
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>> her a little bit.
>>>>>>>>>> That might help too, just depends. But really it helps the most 
>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> sit
>>>>>>>>>> on the side or in the very back or something maybe.
>>>>>>>>>> Laurel and Stockard
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/18/12, Hannah Chadwick <sparklylicious at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> It's probably because you're dog is humungous lol
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Mark J. Cadigan
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 7:06 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>>> Users
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggie Paws
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know why, however, people never step on my dog. It's not
>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>> he will move either. If you are about to step on him, he will 
>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>> stare you down. Maybe people feel the eyes on them, look down, 
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> decide to watch there footing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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