[nagdu] Food was Re: Wanting to Chase all moving animals, especially small ones...

Wed Apr 25 06:07:47 UTC 2012

I only know of grapes and all sorts of pits from the fruits.

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From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 10:38 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Food was Re: Wanting to Chase all moving animals,
especially small ones...

Sounds good. BTW, do you know what fruits to not give your dog?

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From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Food was Re: Wanting to Chase all moving
animals,especially small ones...

> Nicole,
> I must admit I was pretty bad about giving my family dog lots of food 
> and to this day he loves to beg whenever he sees me eating. You would 
> think he'd forget after a few months since I'm not living at home, but 
> nope...
> Anyways, I feel like veggies and fruits are healthier for them and if 
> it does become an issue, then I'll resort to doggie food only.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:07 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Food was Re: Wanting to Chase all moving animals, 
> especially small ones...
>
> Hmm, only thing that I would caution is that Princess does not decide 
> that fruit and vegetables are really good and start begging for them. 
> Some people, including myself, choose to keep their dogs on a strictly 
> dog food and dog treat diet, with the exception of when the dog needs 
> rice or other bland foods for medical reasons, but that is a personal 
> decision that every handler has to make for him/herself. Just my two 
> cents.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 8:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Food was Re: Wanting to Chase all moving 
> animals,especially small ones...
>
>
>> Nicole,
>> I think food is a great idea and I'm planning to use it at some 
>> point, but I might just use fruit or veggies because Princess is 
>> still a couple of pounds over weight.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:43 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: [nagdu] Food was Re: Wanting to Chase all moving animals, 
>> especially small ones...
>>
>> Yes, this can be tricky. GDB does train with food. The idea is to use 
>> it as an occasional distraction or reward. Some people just use 
>> kibble, but I use treats because I want it to be a little more 
>> enticing than the regular food, and I do not like the greasy dog food 
>> on my hands. I think that the brand that I use is Charlie Bear, or 
>> something like that. They look like oyster crackers.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Wanting to Chase all moving animals,especially 
>> small ones...
>>
>>
>>> Nicole,
>>> I agree. I have not been carrying food with me because Pilot does 
>>> not train with it. It might be something to look in to though as she 
>>> does love food.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:21 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Wanting to Chase all moving animals, especially 
>>> small ones...
>>>
>>> Okay, good. I know that this is of course not optimum, but at least 
>>> she is not completely blocking you out. Hopefully, continuing this 
>>> pattern will help some. Also, have you tried offering her food to 
>>> refocus her attention?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 12:57 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Wanting to Chase all moving animals,especially 
>>> small ones...
>>>
>>>
>>>> Nicole,
>>>> Her guide work overall seems pretty good to me. She is very smart 
>>>> and I can tell that she makes some amazing decisions. We do a lot 
>>>> of obedience work daily and I'm hoping it will carry to her work. 
>>>> She does not block everything out when something distracts her, but 
>>>> she also does not respond unless I yank on her leash to get her to 
>>>> face away from whatever she's staring at and then make her do some 
>>>> obedience work.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 11:26 AM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Wanting to Chase all moving animals, 
>>>> especially small ones...
>>>>
>>>> Hannah,
>>>>
>>>>    Okay, this is kind of a long message, so sorry if it gets a 
>>>> little confusing. Also, sorry if I seem to repeat things that 
>>>> others have already said; however, I think that I do have a little 
>>>> different
>>> information.
>>>>    First, regarding a gentle leader or a halti, you might give it a 
>>>> try, but I do not know if it is the best option. As already stated, 
>>>> you cannot give a hard correction. When I was at GDB several years 
>>>> ago, they said that it worked for redirecting attention, but it 
>>>> does not really solve the problem in that the dog never really 
>>>> learns. If you do decide to use one, my personal recommendation 
>>>> would to get training on how to use it.
>>>>    Second, I am curious about how Princess behaves overall. Are 
>>>> there times where her guide work is good? How does she respond to 
>>>> you when not working?
>>>> When off leash? I am wondering if working on other types of 
>>>> obedience and team work may help the situation. When she is looking 
>>>> at something, does she respond to anything? What happens if you 
>>>> tell her to sit or something? Or does she just completely block out 
>>>> all forms of communication?
>>>>    Finally, what about using food to try to help the situation? You 
>>>> could try to use it to draw her attention away from whatever it is 
>>>> that she is looking at. Also, you could use it as a reward when she 
>>>> does
>>> stop.
>>>>    I hope that you find a solution soon.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Nicole
>>>>
>>>>
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