[nagdu] Wanting to Chase all moving animals, especially small ones...

Thu Apr 26 14:56:02 UTC 2012

Oh yeah, and it hurts when you're walking at top speed and the dog gets 
distracted and literally turns around while your hand is on the harness 
handle.  I got a really bad sprain from Katy doing that a few months after 
we were matched.  Someone yelled hello to us from across a parking lot and 
Katy spun around while I kept walking forward.  it hurt like hell, and yes, 
she got a massive leash correction for that.  She didn't try it again.

When life gives you lemons, throw them at something.  Always makes me feel 
better.
Lisa Belville
missktlab1217 at frontier.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Wanting to Chase all moving animals,especially small 
ones...

> Yah, I also have some minor twisting moves with the harrness that get 
> uncomfortible!  She can do this twisty thing and almost turn around while 
> I still have her harness.  So, I just put pressure the other direction and 
> she gets the point!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tami Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 6:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Wanting to Chase all moving animals, especially small 
> ones...
>
>
>> Larry,
>>
>> That's pretty much the same thing I do with my poodle nut. Well, she grew 
>> out of frequent extreme distraction frenzies... Though she still has a 
>> few saved up for special occasions.
>>
>> But pretty much what I do is plant my feet and stand with my attention 
>> elsewhere until she settles down and gets bored enough to let me know she 
>> would like to go forward and get back to work. Depending on how snotty 
>> and rowdy she has been, I will wait a few beats, still giving her no 
>> attention, just to help her remember who actually mades the decision in 
>> this team. /smile/ But for the most part, now, I can simply give the 
>> forward command quickly and off we go. Then I look at her and smile and 
>> praise or click.
>>
>> Actually, I seem to have a "leave it! Forward!" command that is separate 
>> from just leave it or just forward. It's mostly for sniffing but also for 
>> more exciting distractions... Usually it works to get her refocused and 
>> going when I first feel her starting to react to a kitty or some such. 
>> Puppy Zay is learning that one now, too, around this neighborhood. 
>> /smile/
>>
>> I think one reason I have really come to like the GL -- or the slightly 
>> different headgear I have for Zay for her different construction -- is 
>> that it is self-correcting while enabling me to keep control. I could not 
>> believe how strong my seemingly featherweight poodle pup was when she 
>> would get a yen to pull against her collar. Also, I learned that poodles 
>> will do that and pull so hard they damage their tracheas. So I would walk 
>> her in a walking harness or a GL. I still do, just in case. Also, when 
>> she would get psycho distracted in harness, if she was pulling and 
>> yanking too much on the harness handle while I was standing ther planted, 
>> I could just drop the handle and let her run herself into the nosepiece 
>> of the GL... Then it was up to her to decide if she wanted to do that 
>> again. Me? I was just standing there! /lol/ Stubborn little cuss would 
>> really go rodeo at times, a bucking and rearing wild stallion! But it 
>> didn't pay for her to keep doing that, and all I was doing was standing 
>> around with my attention on something else, so... She would eventually 
>> decide that what she really wanted to do was to get on with a nice 
>> civilized walk or working errand. /lol/
>>
>> Funny, adapting to our good old-fashioned mutt from poodle... Zay is 
>> really responsive and shows some brains, and she is learning a lot of 
>> good habits from Mitzi on our double dog walks. But she needs a bit more 
>> firmness in correction than Mitzi, for whom finesse is the only way to 
>> go... When I have the two fo them together, I have to use different 
>> leashes so I don't accidentally offend Mitzi by treating her like a 
>> common cur. Or let Zay get too far out of bounds by giving her light 
>> voice reminders and only a pinky twitch on the leash... Well, Zay is 
>> coming along nicely, so I can now get through most of a double dog walk 
>> without too many exotic threats upon the persons of both of them... /lol/
>>
>> Tami
>>
>> On 04/23/2012 05:00 AM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>> Yah, Holly would love to chase squirrels, rabbits and especially scunks! 
>>> One of those got her a couple of years back and you'd figure she'd learn 
>>> but, I guess not!  I sure did though!  Interestingly, she like cats and 
>>> ferrets.  She has played with both.  And, like Marks dog, she will 
>>> sometimes get distracted by pidgions.  Especially when a whole flock of 
>>> them!  But, I'll just stand there and hold on tight!  I usually correct 
>>> her and just stand until iether they go away or until holly gets bored!
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:24 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Wanting to Chase all moving animals,especially 
>>> small ones...
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hannah, everyone's dog, I am sure, has some issue with something. They 
>>>> are one of them perfect because they are dogs. For some it is cats and 
>>>> squirrels, for some it is other dogs. You have to keep reminding her 
>>>> that this is not the time to be going after them. For mine it is dogs. 
>>>> He is a little better, but he still has not overcome it and I've had 
>>>> him three and a half years. You won't ever have a perfect dog, so just 
>>>> keep working on it and be attentive to the fact that you are going to 
>>>> run into a problem like this from time to time. I am not saying you 
>>>> shouldn't keep correcting, and maybe some kind of reward if you know 
>>>> that you have passed up a distraction, but dogs are alive. Just relax 
>>>> and enjoy the dog and pay attention. That's really the only advice I 
>>>> would know how to give on this.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy
>>>>
>>>>
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