[nagdu] question about chest pad

Sun Aug 26 22:43:09 UTC 2012

Yah, Lynn, I don't use them or for that matter even want them.  I also have 
found out that patience and corrections usually do the4 trick.  And 
sometimes, stubornness and persistance on my part works as well.  In fact, I 
changed correction collars as soon as I could because I don't really like 
the chains.  They are cheap but thats all.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] question about chest pad


> Juanita, I totally agree with you.  Pilot is the only school that uses 
> these things.  These are used much like sometimes people have to use a 
> prong collar on their dog.
>
> As you know, dogs may start out being a bit too fast for some folks but 
> with time, the dog does slow down and the puppiness chills out.  My 
> friends who had thesse things for their harnesses, weren't even using 
> them - they were shown to me.  Her dog no longer needed it.
>
> Sometimes, I think some people have a hard time in really giving a school 
> a very real detailed account of what they want in a dog and school and 
> prospective student do their best to ensure a good and appropriate match. 
> I'm surprised that Pilot still uses these things as I saw the one my 
> friends had 24 years ago when the schools weren't putting out the soft 
> dogs they do today and before many of the training and handling techniques 
> we use today.
>
> Lyn and Landon
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Juanita Herrera" <juanitaherrera1991 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 10:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] question about chest pad
>
>
>> Wait, if a dog pulls too hard shouldn't the school not issue that dog
>> to that individual in the first place? I mean, if the pull is too
>> strong on the person shouldn't the school find a dog that is suitable
>> for the person? That's just wat I've heard. I don't know, but I don't
>> think a school should allow a dog to go home with a handler if it
>> causes discomfort.
>> Juanita and Anise
>>
>> On 8/25/12, Lyn Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net> wrote:
>>> I've seen these chest pads when my friends here had Pilot Dogs.  The 
>>> spikes
>>>
>>> are metal and rounded so they don't actually pierce the dog's skin - 
>>> nasty!
>>>
>>> I think there were only two or three of these things on the pad. You can
>>> find similar things in a pet shop on dog collars, but the ones Pilot 
>>> uses
>>> are less sharp and more rounded.  You still don't want to give a hard 
>>> jerk
>>> back on the harness handle with these things on.  But they do discourage 
>>> the
>>>
>>> dog from pulling real hard on them.
>>>
>>> Pssst! Don't let PETA folks see these! LOL!  Seriously, they aren't 
>>> visable
>>>
>>> to the casual observer - unless they put their hand under the chest 
>>> strap of
>>>
>>> a harness.
>>>
>>> Speaking about PETA, they are doing something good for a change.  In
>>> Oceanside, CA, part of San Diego Couonty, some idiots used duct tape to
>>> attach a whole bunch of helium balloons to a tortois and the balloons 
>>> lifted
>>>
>>> the reptile into the air and snagged in a tree.  The animal is safe and
>>> healthy and being provided a new home.  I just saw on my Channel 10 News
>>> Alerts (KGTV) that PETA has raised $2,500.00 for information that leads 
>>> to
>>> the arrest and prosecution of the people who did the deed.
>>>
>>> Lyn and Landon
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 4:34 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] question about chest pad
>>>
>>>
>>>> How does it work if it doesn't cause discomfort for the dog?
>>>>
>>>> Julie
>>>> On 8/23/2012 9:20 PM, rhonda cruz wrote:
>>>>>   may has a chest pad. and it is meddle spicks.
>>>>>   it doesn't hurt the dog not at all.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 23, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Meghan Whalen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Are the spikes on the chest pad metal or rubber?  Do they ever cause 
>>>>>> any
>>>>>>
>>>>>> rubbing and or soars on the dogs?  I have never heard of such a thing
>>>>>> and am curious.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Meghan
>>>>>> On 8/23/2012 8:43 PM, Criminal Justice Major wrote:
>>>>>>> I've used the chest pad with both Freedom because he was very 
>>>>>>> strong.
>>>>>>> Odie required it too, but only in the very beginning.
>>>>>>> He only needed it when it came to us being around other guide dogs,
>>>>>>> especially if it came to dogs who loved to compete.
>>>>>>> Bibi
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