[nagdu] guide dog question

[d m gina]

I like that,
Thanks for sharing.
My boy is quite fast about going to where he wants.
I gave him a treat and he still wanted to see if he could get something 
from the table and there is nothing on it.
We had turkey and dressing.
I am sure the aroma is wonderful.
Just unreal.
yet he had a treat at six.
Original message:
> Dar,

> The short answer is that you don't correct with a flat collar.  You deal
> with unwanted behavior in a different way.  Commonly an incompatible
> behavior is used.  So say dog is sniffing, instead of correcting, the
> handler might ask the dog to sit or touch his nose to the handlers
> hand.  The idea is to get the dog to do something you ask that it can't
> do while sniffing.

> The other day I was at the Health Department for a meeting.  Monty was
> being a scatterbrained dufus, not really bad, just letting his attention
> wander.  Instead of correcting I just leaned over and tapped him on the
> shoulder to get his attention.  It worked extremely well in that
> situation.   Now if there was a hamburger on the ground that he was
> intent on eating I don't think the gentle tap would work.  Probably in a
> case like that I would try quickly dropping the harness handle and
> pivoting so that I was facing the way I had just come from.  this will
> remove the hamburger from his line of sight, get his attention back on
> me and let him know that pulling will not get him what he wants.

> I think it's mostly a mindset.  You gravitate toward the methods you
> know and are most comfortable with.  If you don't use corrections, it
> simply doesn't enter your mind to correct.  You use other techniques
> that fit your knowledge, beliefs and personal style.

> Julie


> Hi there,
>> I also agree with you.
>> My dog is a diver, and I am having him wear the canny collar.
>> When I correct him I give a gentle correction which calms him down
>> rite away.
>> This morning we went to a funeral, where there was another guide dog
>> he had not seen before.
>> he took a step and I gently pulled back wich calmed him down rite away.
>> I would be interested in knowing if a flat collar is used, how do you
>> correct the dog.
>> You wouldn't get the chance to do the same way as the choke collar or
>> what we use.
>> I still have the collar on my dog with all of his tags, that won't
>> come off.
>> Interesting topic.
>> Jessica was busy at the time I called.
>> So if I don't hear from her, I understand this busy time of month with
>> all of the activities we get involved in.
>> With the dogs going to many Christmas parties and all of the food, I
>> can see why it would be ever tempting for them.
>> I hope others come back and share how they correct with a flat collar.
>> Original message:
>>> Jessica,

>>> I have the book on T-Touch and have used the technique with my current
>>> two dogs.  They really enjoy it.  I can't think of any possible reason
>>> why a person would object to T-Touch.  It's just a distinct way of
>>> touching or massaging the dog.   There aren't any side effects, other
>>> than being relaxed.  Some of the schools teach some of the T-Touch
>>> techniques.  Attending a T-Touch workshop is on my things to do someday
>>> list.  You are so lucky to have had a private session!

>>> As far as your collar question...that is a very personal choice.  It is
>>> possible to work a guide in a flat collar.  I know of several people who
>>> do.  However if you should is an entirely different issue.  I think you
>>> have to figure out what your personal philosophy of dog handling is.
>>> Then figure out if you have the skills and ability to work your dog
>>> within that belief system.   I believe that each dog and each handler
>>> have a unique way of interacting that is best for that particular team.
>>> The same dog with a different handler and a different set of techniques
>>> might work better.  Same thing with a different dog and the same handler
>>> needing to figure out what works best.

>>> Julie




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