[nagdu] guide dog question

Larry D. Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Tue Dec 11 05:17:27 UTC 2012


Sounds like really good dog behavior!  I came home tonight and dumped a 
bunch of fried chicken on the floor!  I picked it up really quickly but, 
when I walked out of the kitchen, the cleaning crew came right in!  The 
crumbs are all gone!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog question


>I like that,
> Thanks for sharing.
> My boy is quite fast about going to where he wants.
> I gave him a treat and he still wanted to see if he could get something 
> from the table and there is nothing on it.
> We had turkey and dressing.
> I am sure the aroma is wonderful.
> Just unreal.
> yet he had a treat at six.
> Original message:
>> Dar,
>
>> The short answer is that you don't correct with a flat collar.  You deal
>> with unwanted behavior in a different way.  Commonly an incompatible
>> behavior is used.  So say dog is sniffing, instead of correcting, the
>> handler might ask the dog to sit or touch his nose to the handlers
>> hand.  The idea is to get the dog to do something you ask that it can't
>> do while sniffing.
>
>> The other day I was at the Health Department for a meeting.  Monty was
>> being a scatterbrained dufus, not really bad, just letting his attention
>> wander.  Instead of correcting I just leaned over and tapped him on the
>> shoulder to get his attention.  It worked extremely well in that
>> situation.   Now if there was a hamburger on the ground that he was
>> intent on eating I don't think the gentle tap would work.  Probably in a
>> case like that I would try quickly dropping the harness handle and
>> pivoting so that I was facing the way I had just come from.  this will
>> remove the hamburger from his line of sight, get his attention back on
>> me and let him know that pulling will not get him what he wants.
>
>> I think it's mostly a mindset.  You gravitate toward the methods you
>> know and are most comfortable with.  If you don't use corrections, it
>> simply doesn't enter your mind to correct.  You use other techniques
>> that fit your knowledge, beliefs and personal style.
>
>> Julie
>
>
>> Hi there,
>>> I also agree with you.
>>> My dog is a diver, and I am having him wear the canny collar.
>>> When I correct him I give a gentle correction which calms him down
>>> rite away.
>>> This morning we went to a funeral, where there was another guide dog
>>> he had not seen before.
>>> he took a step and I gently pulled back wich calmed him down rite away.
>>> I would be interested in knowing if a flat collar is used, how do you
>>> correct the dog.
>>> You wouldn't get the chance to do the same way as the choke collar or
>>> what we use.
>>> I still have the collar on my dog with all of his tags, that won't
>>> come off.
>>> Interesting topic.
>>> Jessica was busy at the time I called.
>>> So if I don't hear from her, I understand this busy time of month with
>>> all of the activities we get involved in.
>>> With the dogs going to many Christmas parties and all of the food, I
>>> can see why it would be ever tempting for them.
>>> I hope others come back and share how they correct with a flat collar.
>>> Original message:
>>>> Jessica,
>
>>>> I have the book on T-Touch and have used the technique with my current
>>>> two dogs.  They really enjoy it.  I can't think of any possible reason
>>>> why a person would object to T-Touch.  It's just a distinct way of
>>>> touching or massaging the dog.   There aren't any side effects, other
>>>> than being relaxed.  Some of the schools teach some of the T-Touch
>>>> techniques.  Attending a T-Touch workshop is on my things to do someday
>>>> list.  You are so lucky to have had a private session!
>
>>>> As far as your collar question...that is a very personal choice.  It is
>>>> possible to work a guide in a flat collar.  I know of several people 
>>>> who
>>>> do.  However if you should is an entirely different issue.  I think you
>>>> have to figure out what your personal philosophy of dog handling is.
>>>> Then figure out if you have the skills and ability to work your dog
>>>> within that belief system.   I believe that each dog and each handler
>>>> have a unique way of interacting that is best for that particular team.
>>>> The same dog with a different handler and a different set of techniques
>>>> might work better.  Same thing with a different dog and the same 
>>>> handler
>>>> needing to figure out what works best.
>
>>>> Julie
>
>
>
>
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