[nagdu] Poodles WAS Re: Princess Update

Tue Dec 18 23:41:42 UTC 2012

Tami,

Princess and Motley are not siblings. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tami Jarvis
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 6:37 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Poodles WAS Re: Princess Update

That's right! Isn't Motley a sibling of Princess? Gary's Bogart is also 
a poodle... Larry's Holly is a pretty poodley doodle. /smile/ Have I 
forgotten anyone else? /lol/ For a long time, I think I was the only 
poodle guide user on the list. It's great to see all the new poodle 
guide users coming along!

Tami

On 12/18/2012 02:12 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote:
> Tami,
>
> Your girl isn't the only poodle on the list! My Motley is a standard
poodle
> too!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tami Jarvis
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 5:05 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: [nagdu] Poodles WAS Re: Princess Update
>
> John and Larry,
>
> Yup! I am super happy with my poodle! She is, as someone has already
> mentioned, high maintenance, both in grooming and energy and
> temperament. But she is also an absolute delight to have around, and the
> nonshedding around the house is a plus. On the job, she is safety
> conscious, clever, still jittery at times like a prancing Arabian horse.
> /lol/
>
> I looked into the breed because of my ex-husband's allergies. Then I
> divorced the allergies and got a poodle anyway. /smile/ So I can't speak
> from experience about handling the poodle as someone who needs that
> breed for allergies of my own.
>
> Main considerations, as I can see them, in getting a poodle guide
> include the cost of grooming (ouch!) and the super high energy and high
> alert temperament. How much you will pay for grooming depends on where
> you live, as will how often you need to take your poodle to the groomer.
> People seem to settle in at once every 4 to 8 weeks, although a few
> daring souls go 12 weeks between grooming. I go longer in winter; but
> after about 8 weeks, that luxuriant black wool of hers gets out of hand!
> /lol/
>
> It seems that as the training programs have become more experienced with
> the wild woolly ones, they've learned to adapt to the temperament and
> teach their grads how to do so. So one adaptation I learned to use that
> I now hear program grads with poodles talking about is allowing the
> poodle to find an out of the way place where it can watch what is going
> on on the bus or in the restaurant, etc. I tried training my girl to be
> in a nice, neat, still ball at first, and that did not work! She would
> get too jumpy. Then I discovered that if she could face the bus door or
> the main part of the restaurant where things were happening, then she
> would be just fine. So that's what we do, and we have learned ways to
> keep her out of the way of being stepped on. /smile/
>
> That's about all I can think of that's useful for now.
>
> Welcome to the list, and keep us posted about what you find out and
> decide to do!
>
> Tami
>
>
> On 12/18/2012 01:21 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>> you are right Hannah!  My experience with Holly was and still is great!
>> So to HJohn, I don't think Pilot was any different than any other school
>> I've heard about.  Sometime4s even though the schools try, for some
>> reason a match doesn't work well.  I was told once when I signed up for
>> the library in Australia out of Perth that labradoodles don't make good
>> guides!  Well, I sure have a different experience and I think Tami with
>> her poodle is pretty happy!  When the mmatch is good it works out great!
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hannah Chadwick"
>> <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 1:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Princess Update
>>
>>
>>> Hello John,
>>> Congratulations on your application process, and I hope you hear from
>>> them
>>> soon. I had a pretty good experience while training with Princess. We
did
>>> run in to a few incidents which I was told to give it time and things
>>> will
>>> fall in place. I don't really know what went wrong or where it started
>>> since
>>> she is my first guide and I did not know what to expect.
>>> I think each person's experience will vary, and every match will be
>>> different. Although Princess's personality definitely matches with
>>> mine, her
>>> speed did lack. She did make progress with my persistence, but her
>>> attention
>>> span seemed to have gotten shorter. She is a standard poodle and is
>>> definitely a people dog.
>>> While going through this process of retiring her, I have also been
>>> working
>>> on my application for Guide Dogs for the Blind in San Rafael. So as of
>>> now,
>>> I am not planning on returning to Pilot Dogs. please feel free to
>>> email me
>>> off list if you have further questions.
>>> All the best, Hannah
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of John Russo
>>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 11:04 PM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Princess Update
>>>
>>> Greetings Hannah,
>>> I'm new to the list.  I read your message with some concern, because
>>> I've never owned a guide dog, teach at a college and applied for
>>> training at
>>> Pilot Dogs.  I'm curious, what breed is Princess?  Do you feel Pilot
>>> trained
>>> her well, or was the training lacking in some way?  Would you return to
>>> Pilot Dogs for training in the future?  I'd hate to have a bad first
>>> experience.  Please reply.   John
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Hannah
>>> Chadwick
>>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 10:55 PM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Princess Update
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> Happy holidays, and I hope each one of you is doing well.
>>> As I mentioned a few weeks back, I planned on sending Princess back to
>>> Pilot
>>> Dogs because she is not doing so well on my college campus due to all
the
>>> distractions.
>>> These past few weeks have been quite difficult because I've been going
>>> back
>>> and forth with myself on whether I should keep her or give her back.
>>> However, her crate came over the weekend and now everything is set.
>>> She is
>>> flying via cargo on Thursday night back to Columbus, Ohio. I hope she
>>> will
>>> get more training and perhaps she will do better in another environment.
>>> I know the next few days will be very difficult, especially after she
>>> leaves
>>> because although she was not a very good guide, she was always there
>>> and her
>>> presents definitely helped me through stressful times.
>>> This year has been one of the most difficult because I lost my father
>>> just a
>>> few months back, and now I will lose Princess. I just hope I will be
>>> ok, and
>>> I know that the only thing to help is time.
>>> I want to take the time to thank each and every one of you for all your
>>> support. You have helped me through all my past difficulties with
>>> Princess,
>>> and you were very patient with me when I first got her and had no idea
>>> what
>>> I was doing since I've never had a dog of my own before. I have
>>> learned so
>>> much from the list and from each one of you.
>>> I know that I will continue to learn from all of you, and when I get
>>> my next
>>> guide, I will have a lot of things to share. Happy holidays to all,
>>> and may
>>> the next year bring you joy, and contentment.
>>> All the best, Hannah
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tami Jarvis
>>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 1:59 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Princess WAS Re: second time is the charm
>>>
>>> Ah, Hannah. I am so sorry you had to make this decision. I wish both
>>> you and
>>> Princess the best in the future.
>>>
>>> You'll know when and whether you are ready for another dog.
>>>
>>> Tami
>>>
>>> On 12/17/2012 01:51 PM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>>>> Hello Daniel,
>>>> Congratulations on your new dog. I'm glad to hear everything went well
>>>> at training. Your message has truly been delightful to read as I am
>>>> sending my dog back this week and pondering on weather I should get
>>>> another dog in the near future.
>>>> Happy holidays to all!
>>>> Best, Hannah
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 1:39 PM
>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] second time is the charm
>>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am a graduate of the final class of 2012 at Guide Dogs for the Blind
>>>> in Portland, Oregon.
>>>>
>>>> I have received my second guide, Cass, a 53lb., 23" high, yellow
>>>> Labrador whose second birthday is coming up on December 23rd.
>>>>
>>>> All I can say is the second time is the charm. She is everything my
>>>> previous guide was not. She is confident, well-paced, and so well
>>>> trained that it makes me want to cry.
>>>>
>>>> We never even came close to an obstacle in training, whether day or
>>>> night.
>>>> She is perfectly attentive to me.
>>>>
>>>> We got home yesterday, and had our first outing this morning for a
>>>> little mile walk. She made every curb, driveway, missed every bush and
>>> mailbox.
>>>>
>>>> I have just received the best Christmas present I could have ever
>>>> dreamed of.
>>>>
>>>> More later as we progress from off the leash in the house to partial
>>>> freedom, and all the usual breaking in. Oh, what a beautiful day!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to all of you who encouraged me not to judge all guides on my
>>>> first bad experience with Scout. Although he was truly loved, I am
>>>> sure he is happy as the Disney dog and family friend he always wanted
>>>> to
>>> be.
>>>>
>>>> Wishing all of you the best this holiday season!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Daniel and his new love, Cass
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Daniel Sweeney
>>>>
>>>> Lakewood, CO
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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