[nagdu] Removing Harness and Leash for Security Re:flyingwithPrincess for the first time

[Larry D. Keeler]

At Pilot, they will have you remove the harness.  They have you go through 
first and then call the dog.  It is best if you have a friend to hold your 
dog when you go and then let them through so you can catch them.  Mty 
trainer at Pilot held her first.  When I got back, I didn't have to do it 
again.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Removing Harness and Leash for Security 
Re:flyingwithPrincess for the first time


>I was told by a trainer to absolutely never remove the dogs harness, collar 
>or leash
>
> For going through security, I agree with never removing the leash/collar, 
> but I do not agree with not removing the harness. Is it what people will 
> think of the dog, what people will do to the harness, or how the dog will 
> behave without the harness? Yes, Lexia usually interprets harness off as 
> play time, but she is also smart enough to know that the airport is no 
> place for messing around.
>    As far as putting on a different collar/leash, it is possible to switch 
> collars and leashes without giving your dog full freedom. I admit that 
> this may not be a good idea for a new guide dog team, but it should not be 
> a problem for a team that has been together for a long time.
>
> Also I knew of a handler and her guide  going through security after 911 
> and the person working the security told this handler to remove the dogs 
> harness and she did and the security people took the harness totally apart 
> and after she went  through security the security people gave her the 
> harness back in pieces. Too me that's unacceptable  and very wrong.
>
> And did your friend do anything about it? In that case, you fix the 
> problem by talking to the person who did it or a supervisor, not by just 
> avoiding it. Did the person take it apart to fit it in the bin or to 
> investigate it? Sometimes, no matter what we do, we cannot keep the 
> security from investigating things that way. Also, what exactly is 
> "apart"? The GDB harness that Lexia has can be put into three pieces that 
> are very easily put back together.
>
> Finally, what has disturbed me more than just what you are saying is how 
> you said it. I agree that everyone on the list has the right to express 
> his/her opinion, but no one is the "expert" on what to do and what not to 
> do. You could have put something along the lines of "I would" or "In my 
> opinion""
>
> Okay, I am going to go hide under my rock now.
>
> Nicole
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "loriandleo" <loriandleo at ohiohills.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 8:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Removing Harness and Leash for Security Re: 
> flyingwithPrincess for the first time
>
>
>> Hi Nicole,
>>
>> I was told by a trainer to absolutely never remove the dogs harness, 
>> collar
>> or leash.  Also I knew of a handler and her guide  going through security
>> after 911 and the person working the security told this handler to remove
>> the dogs harness and she did and the security people took the harness
>> totally apart and after she went  through security the security people 
>> gave
>> her the harness back in pieces. Too me that's unexceptable  and very 
>> wrong.
>> Take care.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lori and theGipper
>>
>>
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