[nagdu] Removing Harness and Leash for Security Re: flyingwithPrincess for the first time

[Tracy Carcione]

I haven't ever taken off the dog's harness to go through security, but I
would if they insisted.  But no way would I take off the collar and leash!
 And that goes tripple if I were bringing home a new dog.  It would be way
too easy to lose control of the dog and end up with him playing
catch-me-if-you-can in the airport.  Yikes!

One of my classmates' dog ate a rubber glove at security.  Just snarfed it
right down while the guy was examining him, I guess.  Luckily, it came out
all right.
Tracy


> I was told by a trainer to absolutely never remove the dogs harness,
> collar
> or leash
>
> For going through security, I agree with never removing the leash/collar,
> but I do not agree with not removing the harness. Is it what people will
> think of the dog, what people will do to the harness, or how the dog will
> behave without the harness? Yes, Lexia usually interprets harness off as
> play time, but she is also smart enough to know that the airport is no
> place
> for messing around.
>     As far as putting on a different collar/leash, it is possible to
> switch
> collars and leashes without giving your dog full freedom. I admit that
> this
> may not be a good idea for a new guide dog team, but it should not be a
> problem for a team that has been together for a long time.
>
> Also I knew of a handler and her guide  going through security after 911
> and
> the person working the security told this handler to remove the dogs
> harness
> and she did and the security people took the harness totally apart and
> after
> she went  through security the security people gave her the harness back
> in
> pieces. Too me that's unacceptable  and very wrong.
>
> And did your friend do anything about it? In that case, you fix the
> problem
> by talking to the person who did it or a supervisor, not by just avoiding
> it. Did the person take it apart to fit it in the bin or to investigate
> it?
> Sometimes, no matter what we do, we cannot keep the security from
> investigating things that way. Also, what exactly is "apart"? The GDB
> harness that Lexia has can be put into three pieces that are very easily
> put
> back together.
>
> Finally, what has disturbed me more than just what you are saying is how
> you
> said it. I agree that everyone on the list has the right to express
> his/her
> opinion, but no one is the "expert" on what to do and what not to do. You
> could have put something along the lines of "I would" or "In my opinion""
>
> Okay, I am going to go hide under my rock now.
>
> Nicole
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "loriandleo" <loriandleo at ohiohills.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 8:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Removing Harness and Leash for Security Re:
> flyingwithPrincess for the first time
>
>
>> Hi Nicole,
>>
>> I was told by a trainer to absolutely never remove the dogs harness,
>> collar
>> or leash.  Also I knew of a handler and her guide  going through
>> security
>> after 911 and the person working the security told this handler to
>> remove
>> the dogs harness and she did and the security people took the harness
>> totally apart and after she went  through security the security people
>> gave
>> her the harness back in pieces. Too me that's unexceptable  and very
>> wrong.
>> Take care.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lori and theGipper
>>
>>
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