[nagdu] GDB and Airports Re: Removing Harness and Leash forSecurityRe:flyingwithPrincess for the first time

Thu Feb 2 20:04:45 UTC 2012

there are a lot of very very tall tales out here:0)
I work with TSA some times on safety issues and most of these folks are
awesome to work with but sometimes as is anywhere else, you meet a
screwball.

I have tried everything with leash harness and so on.  I have hundreds
of flights behind me and 6 dogs now:0)

Yes reading MumboJumbo makes me want to order the same thing:0) Wana
share a table:0)

From:	"Lisa belville" <missktlab1217 at frontier.com>
To:	"NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide
            Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Date:	02/02/2012 02:00 PM
Subject:	Re: [nagdu] GDB and Airports Re: Removing Harness
            andLeash	forSecurityRe:flyingwithPrincess for the first
            time
Sent by:	nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org

Thanks for providing this thorough summary.

Now it might just be urban legend, but I seem to remember someone having
to
wait because the TSAA person was dead set on doing the pat down of the
dog
because it was a male dog and this was a female officer.  I'd hope this
was
just one of those tall tales, but with TSA you never know.

I'd like an order of ambition, & a side of focus, and a large coffee.
And
could you super size that please? It really needs to last for the rest
of
the day.
Lisa Belville
missktlab1217 at frontier.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Harris" <Harris.Robert at epamail.epa.gov>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] GDB and Airports Re: Removing Harness andLeash
forSecurityRe:flyingwithPrincess for the first time

> In Response to your inquiry.
> Thank you for contacting TSA with your questions and concerns about
> airport security
> checkpoint screening for travelers with disabilities and medical
> conditions.
> Specifically, you were concerned about screening for passengers who
have
> service dogs.
> If a passenger has a service dog due to a disability or medical
> condition, both the
> passenger and the dog will be screened. The passenger should inform a
> security officer
> that the dog is a service animal and not a pet and the dog should be
> wearing gear (a
> harness, vest, etc.) to indicate that it is a service animal.
> Passengers are expected to maintain control of their animals by
holding
> onto the leash
> throughout the screening process and they should not be separated from
> their dogs by TSA
> personnel.
> Passenger with service dogs will be screened either by a metal
detector
> or thorough
> pat-down. If the passenger and service animal are screened by a metal
> detector, they can
> proceed one of three ways:
> • The passenger can walk through first with the dog following
> behind on its
> leash.
> • The dog can walk through first on its leash with the
> passenger following
> behind.
> • The passenger and dog can walk through at the same time.
> If the passenger and the dog walk through at the same time and the
metal
> detector
> alarms, both the passenger and dog are subject to additional
screening,
> including a
> thorough pat-down.  If the passenger and dog walk through separately,
> only the party
> that alarms the metal detector will receive additional screening. It
is
> very important
> that the passenger not make contact with the dog (other than holding
the
> leash) until
> the dog has been cleared and inspected by an officer.
> If a pat-down is required in order to complete screening:
> • The pat-down should be conducted by an officer of the same
> gender.
> Sometimes, passengers must wait for an officer of the same gender to
> become available.
> • The passenger can request a private screening at any time
> and a private
> screening should be offered when the officer must pat-down sensitive
> areas. During a
> private screening, another TSA employee will also be present and the
> passenger may be
> accompanied by a companion of his or her choosing.
> • A passenger may ask for a chair if he or she needs to sit
> down.
> • The passenger should inform an officer of any difficulty
> raising his or her
> arms, remaining in the position required for a pat-down, or any areas
of
> the body that
> are painful when touched.
> • A passenger should not be asked to remove or lift any
> article of clothing
> to reveal a sensitive body area.
> In addition to the pat-down, TSA may use technology to test for traces
> of explosive
> material. If explosive material is detected, the passenger will have
to
> undergo
> additional screening.
> Regardless of how the passenger and dog proceed through metal
detector,
> the dog will
> receive additional screening. The officer will physically inspect the
> dog and the dog’s
> belongings (collar, harness, leash, backpack, vest, etc.) in order to
> resolve the alarm.
> Although the dog’s harness will not be removed, it and other items
that
> he or she may be
> carrying such as a backpack are subject to screening.
> If a passenger leaves the secure side of the airport to relieve his or
> her dog, the
> passenger and dog will need to undergo the screening process again.
When
> he or she
> returns to the security checkpoint, he or she can ask to move to the
> front of the
> screening line.
> Medication for service animals is permitted through security
checkpoints
> once it has
> undergone X-ray or visual inspection screening. All liquids, gels, or
> aerosols that
> exceed 3.4 ounces will  receive additional screening. Passengers
should
> tell an officer
> in advance if there are medically necessary liquids for the service
dog
> that need to be
> screened, and these should be separated from other items in the
> passenger’s carry-on.
> A companion, assistant, or family member may accompany a passenger to
> assist him or her
> during any private or public screening. After providing this
assistance,
> the companion,
> assistant, or family member will need to be rescreened. The passenger
> should inform the
> officer of his or her need for assistance before the screening process
> begins.
> If a passenger has concerns about his or her screening, he or she
should
> ask to speak
> with a supervisor while at the checkpoint.  Passengers also can report
> concerns by
> contacting TSA’s Disability and Multicultural Division at
> TSA.ODPO at tsa.dhs.gov or:
> Transportation Security Administration
> Disability and Multicultural Division
> 601 South 12th Street
> Arlington, VA  20598
>
> TSA encourages passengers with disabilities or medical conditions to
> arrive at the
> airport early and to visit
> www.tsa.gov
> for more information before they fly.
> TSA Cares
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide
>            Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Date: 02/02/2012 12:12 PM
> Subject: [nagdu] GDB and Airports Re: Removing Harness and Leash
>            forSecurityRe:flyingwithPrincess for the first time
> Sent by: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org
>
>
>
> When I was in training to get Lexia in 2007, GDB took the entire class
> to
> the airport near the end of training to practice. They told us that we
> would
> set off the metal detector. They did not tell us to take off the
harness
> or
> use a leash that did not have metal. This was my own idea.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Removing Harness and Leash
> forSecurityRe:flyingwithPrincess for the first time
>
>
>> hi, Larry,
>> I guess it depends on the trainers/instructors at Pilot because twice
> when
>> I was in training there, they didn't recommend the harness be removed
> nor
>> the dog be called through the metal detector.
>> I went through with both guides and then was wanded.
>> I'm sure same thing happens with other schools as well too.
>> Can others who go through  the other guide dog schools let me know
> more on
>> this one, please?
>> Thank you.
>> Bibi
>>
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