[nagdu] Going Inside
Juanita Herrera
juanita.herrera91 at gmail.com
Wed Feb 15 03:40:57 UTC 2012
Hi Hannah,
Do you keep a constant relieving schedule with her? Also, does her
feeding and watering time remain the same for the most part? I was
told by my trainer that if they ever went inside to point it out to
them, and make it clear that it is not acceptable. You could possibly
correct her and use whatever verbal cue you use when she does
something wrong. Another thing, you should use one of those cleaning
supply thinggies they sell to eliminate dog odors. I was also told by
my instructor that if you don't use something that will remove the
smell for good, they will continue smelling it inside, and they will
think it is ok to go in side. Text me if you have any questions.
Juanita (Bestie)
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> 1. Re: Listen to your dog!! (William Vandervest)
> 2. Re: Dog food (William Vandervest)
> 3. Re: Going Inside (Sheila Leigland)
> 4. Re: Dogs At Work (Steven Johnson)
> 5. Re: Listen to your dog!! (Larry D. Keeler)
> 6. Re: Dogs At Work (Larry D. Keeler)
> 7. Re: Dogs At Work (Sheila Leigland)
> 8. Re: Dog food (Meghan Whalen)
> 9. Re: Going Inside (Meghan Whalen)
> 10. Re: Listen to your dog!! (William Vandervest)
> 11. Re: Dogs At Work (Julie McGinnity)
> 12. Dog toys was Re: Dog food (Mark J. Cadigan)
> 13. Re: Listen to your dog!! (Julie J.)
> 14. Re: Dog toys was Re: Dog food (Meghan Whalen)
> 15. Re: Dog toys was Re: Dog food (Julie J.)
> 16. Re: Dog toys was Re: Dog food (Mark J. Cadigan)
> 17. Re: Dog toys was Re: Dog food (Mark J. Cadigan)
> 18. Re: Listen to your dog!! (Larry D. Keeler)
> 19. Re: Dog toys was Re: Dog food (Larry D. Keeler)
> 20. Re: Listen to your dog!! (William Vandervest)
> 21. Re: Dog toys was Re: Dog food (William Vandervest)
> 22. Re: Dog toys was Re: Dog food (Julie J.)
> 23. Re: ice was Listen to your dog!! (Julie J.)
> 24. Re: Dog toys was Re: Dog food (Mark J. Cadigan)
> 25. Walking on ice (Tracy Carcione)
> 26. Re: Walking on ice (A. J. LaPointe)
> 27. Re: Walking on ice (Mark J. Cadigan)
> 28. Passing of GDF's first graduate Vito Vero (Jenine Stanley)
> 29. Re: Going Inside (Hannah Chadwick)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 21:18:26 -0500
> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Listen to your dog!!
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> knowing Carol, probibly LMAO
> William And LD Lynard
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 21:22:47 -0500
> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
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> did you say your dog is part tiger?
> William And LD Lynard
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 19:34:02 -0700
> From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going Inside
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> I know it can be a real pain but Pilot told us to never takes our dogs off
> leash for at least four to six weeks. They need to be taken out frequently.
> I no that each dog is different but if Tres hasn't gone yet I don't let him
> off leash until I know that he has gone. I've had Tres almost a year but if
> I'm not consistent with him he isn't above choosing to go inside. Soon
> you'll figure out what her schedule will be. For instance does she go better
> right after feedings does she like to go before her morning feeding and so
> on. Hopefully it will get better. Sorry this is so long.
>
> sheila leigland
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 21:04:09 -0600
> From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
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> The dog is still covered, only if it is providing those functional services
> it was trained to provide. And, keep in mind, that in places of employment,
> ADA Title I applies, not Title II or III. Be careful how you interpret this
> as as your guide with you in the workplace, is generally viewed as a
> reasonable work accommodation.
>
> Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of marilyn
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 8:12 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>
> Hi Mark,
> I take my dogs harness off when I am in the office at work. she has a dog
> bed near my desk When I go to get up to go to the printer, bathroom or
> kitchen or in another room for a meeting I have her leash guide me. When I
> leave the office her harness goes back on. You are still covered under the
> ADA as your dog is a guide dog even if the harness is off.
> Marilyn and Anna
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 5:42 PM
> Subject: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> Just another quick question for all you more experienced guide dog
>> handlers. When you are at work, do you leave your dog in harness, or
>> do you take your dog's harness off. I'm talking about when you are
>> sitting at a desk and not moving around.
>>
>>
>>
>> I work two 8 hour shifts a week and I take my dog out of harness,
>> because I am sitting at a desk the entire time, and I think it is
>> unnecessary for your dog to be in harness when he is just sitting
>> quietly under your desk...
>>
>>
>>
>> Another part of this question. What is the legal answer? There is
>> obviously a "no pets" policy at my work. Am I still covered by the ADA
>> and other such laws if I remove the harness once at my desk?
>>
>>
>>
>> No one has complained, but with my luck it is only a matter of time.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
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> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 22:42:07 -0500
> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
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> That's nothing new@! You always laugh at me!! When we meet in Lansing
> though, Holly,Lynard and I will be laughing after we whip your tail bowling!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
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>> lol smart dog, so are Lynard and i :-) William And LD Lynard
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> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 22:43:05 -0500
> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
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> It just sounded funny how it came out on the computer! It sounded like you
> wore one too!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sheila Leigland" <sleigland at bresnan.net>
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> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 9:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
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>
>>I don't wear a harnesss but my dog does and hal chooses to remove sampson's
>>
>>harness while at work.
>>
>> sheila leigland
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:59:05 -0700
> From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
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> Yes it did and that's why I rephrased it. A friend of mine thought we should
> get a crate for work but there isn't much room for one.
>
> sheila leigland
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 22:09:07 -0600
> From: Meghan Whalen <mewhalen at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
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> Mark:
>
> I've got a super chewer shepherd. I have resorted to only giving him
> things like his nylabone when I am not playing with him. Kongs and
> other toys are only for when we are playing together. Otherwise, I put
> them away. This way, he looks to me as the giver of good things, and
> the toys last much longer.
>
> On 2/11/2012 6:04 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>> Julie,
>>
>>
>>
>> I think I am just going to do that. I am going to just get toys
>> monthly and then toss them when they get to badly damaged. What type
>> of dog do you have?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>
>>
>>> A lot of that sounds familiar. Monty chomped a tennis ball in half
>>> in the first few days that I had him. the regular size is really to
>>> small for him. It was a long time before I tried the larger softball
>>> size tennis balls. He loves those things, but he peels them. I've
>>> pretty much resigned myself to the fact that toys are not going to
>>> last as long as advertised.
>>>
>>> Julie
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/11/2012 5:48 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>> Julie,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This dog has a terrifying chomp. I'm glad he likes me. He has bit
>>>> threw a dog leash, a tie down, numerous dog toys, multiple tennis
>>>> balls, he destroyed a marrow bone, and I have only had him for a month.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This dog has also taken chunks out of a nyolobone and put teeth
>>>> marks in cong toys. I've rapped his leash around a desk, and he
>>>> dragged it 2 feet. He was wearing a pinch collar at the time, and it
>>>> was a large heavy table that took 3 people to get in place.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This dog is only about 80 pounds. I don't want to imagine how strong
>>>> he would be if he was larger.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This all being sayed, I love my dog.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:30 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Nicole,
>>>>> Would that be the invincible chain? Monty has invinced three of
>>>>> those now. I buy the largest size of the Invincible Chain the one
>>>>> with the rings that are probably 6 inches in diameter. He chews
>>>>> the middle ring from the chain within the first day, but the two
>>>>> outer rings last for a few months.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark,
>>>>> Other fairly durable toys are Cuz, Ruffians, Buddha rope tugs, and
>>>>> the original Kong. But that's from what I thought was a strong
>>>>> chewer. I don't use a tie down, but I honestly can't imagine a dog
>>>>> being able to chew through that. Holy cow! I have no idea what
>>>>> sort of toy you are going to find that will hold up to that level
>>>>> of chomp. If you do find something please share!
>>>>>
>>>>> Julie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/11/2012 3:48 PM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>>>>> I have a black lab, but that is certainly no reason to discredit
>>>>>> her for being a chewer. We used to buy the three rubber rings
>>>>>> connected together from the pet store. However, we don't anymore
>>>>>> as she will take them, find the joint were the ring was sealed,
>>>>>> and chew it open in like 2 minutes!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan"
>>>>>> <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:06 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nicole,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> O, by the way, what type of dog do you have?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home"
>>>>>>> <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:44 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes: goughnut
>>>>>>>> No, it is not misspelled. They are not 100% indestructible, but
>>>>>>>> they last several months. When your dog does finally manage to
>>>>>>>> chew through the top layer of rubber, you can send it in for a
>>>>>>>> replacement. They come in rubber rings and rubber sticks. They
>>>>>>>> come in green and black, with the black being more durable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan"
>>>>>>>> <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:38 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What do you think of the wellness 95% beef canned dog food for
>>>>>>>>> supplemental feeding? Anyone have experience with it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, anyone feed there dogs a raw diet? I don't think this is
>>>>>>>>> logistically possible for me in my current situation of living
>>>>>>>>> in a dorm room; however, I am interested in learning more about
>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Another thing, anyone have suggestions for truly indestructible
>>>>>>>>> chew toys?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 22:11:41 -0600
> From: Meghan Whalen <mewhalen at gmail.com>
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> Are you allowing her free run of your home? If so, I recommend keeping
> her on leash with you or on tiedown or in a kennel at all times until
> you have established a good relieving schedule. Don't play with her and
> get her wound up unless you know that she has recently emptied. Monitor
> how much water she is drinking etc.
>
> Meghan
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 23:13:43 -0500
> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Listen to your dog!!
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> don't you wish lol
> Lynard will be toooo buisy flirting with Holly :-)
> William And LD Lynard
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 23:06:23 -0600
> From: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
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> Hi Mark and everyone.
>
> I work at my college's access office as a German tutor. Even when I'm
> not tutoring, I'm there because I enjoy the environment and find I can
> get homework done a lot faster there. I usually take Brie's harness
> off in the office. She even has a certain amout of freedom. Of
> course, she normally jut curls up and goes to sleep, so I don't know
> if freedom is the word. I allow people to pet her when she is not in
> harness, but it has never gotten out of hand, and Brie generally knows
> who will pet and who will not. How do dogs know such things? But
> most days people don't even bother her. She just curls up under the
> table.
>
> I also take her harness off in the practice rooms when i go and
> practice if I'm going to be there for a long period of time(which is
> most of the time), and again, she just curls up and goes to sleep.
> (see a theme?) I am alone when I practice, and I 've never had anyone
> approach me about that or about taking her harness off where I work.
> As long as it doesn't create a distraction, and as long as your
> comfortable with your dog's behavior when she's not in harness, it
> shouldn't be a problem.
>
> On 2/11/12, Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net> wrote:
>> Yes it did and that's why I rephrased it. A friend of mine thought we
>> should
>> get a crate for work but there isn't much room for one.
>>
>> sheila leigland
>>
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> Lindbergh High School class of 2009, participating member in Opera
> Theater's Artist in Training Program, and proud graduate of Guiding
> Eyes for the Blind
>
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
> everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
> life."
> John 3:16
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 03:10:18 -0500
> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nagdu] Dog toys was Re: Dog food
> Message-ID: <BEA2CE55F18F494FB2801517CCC3EAEE at cadiganpc>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=response
>
> Meghan,
>
>
>
> This makes sense. I also got a super chewer shepherd. I just wish I could
> give him something more fun than a plain nylobone to play with when I can't
> be playing with him.
>
>
>
> Mark,
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Meghan Whalen" <mewhalen at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 11:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>
>
>> Mark:
>>
>> I've got a super chewer shepherd. I have resorted to only giving him
>> things like his nylabone when I am not playing with him. Kongs and other
>> toys are only for when we are playing together. Otherwise, I put them
>> away. This way, he looks to me as the giver of good things, and the toys
>> last much longer.
>>
>> On 2/11/2012 6:04 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>> Julie,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think I am just going to do that. I am going to just get toys monthly
>>> and then toss them when they get to badly damaged. What type of dog do
>>> you have?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:58 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>
>>>
>>>> A lot of that sounds familiar. Monty chomped a tennis ball in half in
>>>> the first few days that I had him. the regular size is really to small
>>>> for him. It was a long time before I tried the larger softball size
>>>> tennis balls. He loves those things, but he peels them. I've pretty
>>>> much resigned myself to the fact that toys are not going to last as long
>>>>
>>>> as advertised.
>>>>
>>>> Julie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/11/2012 5:48 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>>> Julie,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This dog has a terrifying chomp. I'm glad he likes me. He has bit threw
>>>>>
>>>>> a dog leash, a tie down, numerous dog toys, multiple tennis balls, he
>>>>> destroyed a marrow bone, and I have only had him for a month.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This dog has also taken chunks out of a nyolobone and put teeth marks
>>>>> in cong toys. I've rapped his leash around a desk, and he dragged it 2
>>>>> feet. He was wearing a pinch collar at the time, and it was a large
>>>>> heavy table that took 3 people to get in place.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This dog is only about 80 pounds. I don't want to imagine how strong he
>>>>>
>>>>> would be if he was larger.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This all being sayed, I love my dog.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:30 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nicole,
>>>>>> Would that be the invincible chain? Monty has invinced three of those
>>>>>>
>>>>>> now. I buy the largest size of the Invincible Chain the one with the
>>>>>> rings that are probably 6 inches in diameter. He chews the middle
>>>>>> ring from the chain within the first day, but the two outer rings last
>>>>>>
>>>>>> for a few months.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>> Other fairly durable toys are Cuz, Ruffians, Buddha rope tugs, and the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> original Kong. But that's from what I thought was a strong chewer. I
>>>>>> don't use a tie down, but I honestly can't imagine a dog being able to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> chew through that. Holy cow! I have no idea what sort of toy you are
>>>>>>
>>>>>> going to find that will hold up to that level of chomp. If you do
>>>>>> find something please share!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/11/2012 3:48 PM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>>>>>> I have a black lab, but that is certainly no reason to discredit her
>>>>>>> for being a chewer. We used to buy the three rubber rings connected
>>>>>>> together from the pet store. However, we don't anymore as she will
>>>>>>> take them, find the joint were the ring was sealed, and chew it open
>>>>>>> in like 2 minutes!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan"
>>>>>>> <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:06 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nicole,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> O, by the way, what type of dog do you have?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home"
>>>>>>>> <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:44 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes: goughnut
>>>>>>>>> No, it is not misspelled. They are not 100% indestructible, but
>>>>>>>>> they last several months. When your dog does finally manage to chew
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> through the top layer of rubber, you can send it in for a
>>>>>>>>> replacement. They come in rubber rings and rubber sticks. They come
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> in green and black, with the black being more durable.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan"
>>>>>>>>> <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:38 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What do you think of the wellness 95% beef canned dog food for
>>>>>>>>>> supplemental feeding? Anyone have experience with it?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also, anyone feed there dogs a raw diet? I don't think this is
>>>>>>>>>> logistically possible for me in my current situation of living in
>>>>>>>>>> a dorm room; however, I am interested in learning more about it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Another thing, anyone have suggestions for truly indestructible
>>>>>>>>>> chew toys?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>>>>>>>>> for nagdu:
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 06:36:39 -0600
> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Listen to your dog!!
> Message-ID: <4F37B257.7000709 at neb.rr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> William and Larry,
>
> Could you guys please talk about this off list? It seems to be more of
> a personal conversation now, rather than something everyone could
> participate in, unless you are inviting everyone bowling? *smile*
>
> Thanks much!
> Julie
> NAGDU list moderator
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:15:04 -0600
> From: Meghan Whalen <mewhalen at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog toys was Re: Dog food
> Message-ID: <4F37C968.7060001 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> I have what I think is called the IQ treat ball. It is super hard
> plastic, and all Dayton has been able to do is slobber all over it. You
> can put part of his daily kibble in it and let him punt it about your
> dorm. They're kinda noisy, but the dogs love them, and they seem to
> hold up to most anything.
>
> Meghan
> On 2/12/2012 2:10 AM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>> Meghan,
>>
>>
>>
>> This makes sense. I also got a super chewer shepherd. I just wish I
>> could give him something more fun than a plain nylobone to play with
>> when I can't be playing with him.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Meghan Whalen" <mewhalen at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 11:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>
>>
>>> Mark:
>>>
>>> I've got a super chewer shepherd. I have resorted to only giving him
>>> things like his nylabone when I am not playing with him. Kongs and
>>> other toys are only for when we are playing together. Otherwise, I
>>> put them away. This way, he looks to me as the giver of good things,
>>> and the toys last much longer.
>>>
>>> On 2/11/2012 6:04 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>> Julie,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think I am just going to do that. I am going to just get toys
>>>> monthly and then toss them when they get to badly damaged. What type
>>>> of dog do you have?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:58 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> A lot of that sounds familiar. Monty chomped a tennis ball in half
>>>>> in the first few days that I had him. the regular size is really
>>>>> to small for him. It was a long time before I tried the larger
>>>>> softball size tennis balls. He loves those things, but he peels
>>>>> them. I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that toys are
>>>>> not going to last as long as advertised.
>>>>>
>>>>> Julie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/11/2012 5:48 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>>>> Julie,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This dog has a terrifying chomp. I'm glad he likes me. He has bit
>>>>>> threw a dog leash, a tie down, numerous dog toys, multiple tennis
>>>>>> balls, he destroyed a marrow bone, and I have only had him for a
>>>>>> month.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This dog has also taken chunks out of a nyolobone and put teeth
>>>>>> marks in cong toys. I've rapped his leash around a desk, and he
>>>>>> dragged it 2 feet. He was wearing a pinch collar at the time, and
>>>>>> it was a large heavy table that took 3 people to get in place.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This dog is only about 80 pounds. I don't want to imagine how
>>>>>> strong he would be if he was larger.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This all being sayed, I love my dog.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:30 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nicole,
>>>>>>> Would that be the invincible chain? Monty has invinced three of
>>>>>>> those now. I buy the largest size of the Invincible Chain the
>>>>>>> one with the rings that are probably 6 inches in diameter. He
>>>>>>> chews the middle ring from the chain within the first day, but
>>>>>>> the two outer rings last for a few months.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>>> Other fairly durable toys are Cuz, Ruffians, Buddha rope tugs,
>>>>>>> and the original Kong. But that's from what I thought was a
>>>>>>> strong chewer. I don't use a tie down, but I honestly can't
>>>>>>> imagine a dog being able to chew through that. Holy cow! I have
>>>>>>> no idea what sort of toy you are going to find that will hold up
>>>>>>> to that level of chomp. If you do find something please share!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/11/2012 3:48 PM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>>>>>>> I have a black lab, but that is certainly no reason to discredit
>>>>>>>> her for being a chewer. We used to buy the three rubber rings
>>>>>>>> connected together from the pet store. However, we don't anymore
>>>>>>>> as she will take them, find the joint were the ring was sealed,
>>>>>>>> and chew it open in like 2 minutes!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan"
>>>>>>>> <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:06 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nicole,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> O, by the way, what type of dog do you have?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at
>>>>>>>>> Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:44 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes: goughnut
>>>>>>>>>> No, it is not misspelled. They are not 100% indestructible,
>>>>>>>>>> but they last several months. When your dog does finally
>>>>>>>>>> manage to chew through the top layer of rubber, you can send
>>>>>>>>>> it in for a replacement. They come in rubber rings and rubber
>>>>>>>>>> sticks. They come in green and black, with the black being
>>>>>>>>>> more durable.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan"
>>>>>>>>>> <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:38 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think of the wellness 95% beef canned dog food
>>>>>>>>>>> for supplemental feeding? Anyone have experience with it?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also, anyone feed there dogs a raw diet? I don't think this
>>>>>>>>>>> is logistically possible for me in my current situation of
>>>>>>>>>>> living in a dorm room; however, I am interested in learning
>>>>>>>>>>> more about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Another thing, anyone have suggestions for truly
>>>>>>>>>>> indestructible chew toys?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
>>>>>>>>>>> info for nagdu:
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:34:21 -0600
> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog toys was Re: Dog food
> Message-ID: <4F37CDED.1020507 at neb.rr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Mark,
>
> I was thinking maybe a really big toy that he can't get his mouth
> around, like a basketball? Some dogs enjoy pushing these sorts of toys
> around. It seems that especially the herding breeds like them, maybe
> they simulate herding behavior? No idea. I have a Hole-e-Roller ball
> sp?, but my two dogs could care less about it.
>
> Julie
>
>
> On 2/12/2012 8:15 AM, Meghan Whalen wrote:
>> I have what I think is called the IQ treat ball. It is super hard
>> plastic, and all Dayton has been able to do is slobber all over it.
>> You can put part of his daily kibble in it and let him punt it about
>> your dorm. They're kinda noisy, but the dogs love them, and they seem
>> to hold up to most anything.
>>
>> Meghan
>> On 2/12/2012 2:10 AM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>> Meghan,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This makes sense. I also got a super chewer shepherd. I just wish I
>>> could give him something more fun than a plain nylobone to play with
>>> when I can't be playing with him.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Meghan Whalen" <mewhalen at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 11:09 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>
>>>
>>>> Mark:
>>>>
>>>> I've got a super chewer shepherd. I have resorted to only giving
>>>> him things like his nylabone when I am not playing with him. Kongs
>>>> and other toys are only for when we are playing together.
>>>> Otherwise, I put them away. This way, he looks to me as the giver
>>>> of good things, and the toys last much longer.
>>>>
>>>> On 2/11/2012 6:04 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>>> Julie,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think I am just going to do that. I am going to just get toys
>>>>> monthly and then toss them when they get to badly damaged. What
>>>>> type of dog do you have?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:58 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> A lot of that sounds familiar. Monty chomped a tennis ball in
>>>>>> half in the first few days that I had him. the regular size is
>>>>>> really to small for him. It was a long time before I tried the
>>>>>> larger softball size tennis balls. He loves those things, but he
>>>>>> peels them. I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that toys
>>>>>> are not going to last as long as advertised.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/11/2012 5:48 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>>>>> Julie,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This dog has a terrifying chomp. I'm glad he likes me. He has bit
>>>>>>> threw a dog leash, a tie down, numerous dog toys, multiple tennis
>>>>>>> balls, he destroyed a marrow bone, and I have only had him for a
>>>>>>> month.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This dog has also taken chunks out of a nyolobone and put teeth
>>>>>>> marks in cong toys. I've rapped his leash around a desk, and he
>>>>>>> dragged it 2 feet. He was wearing a pinch collar at the time, and
>>>>>>> it was a large heavy table that took 3 people to get in place.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This dog is only about 80 pounds. I don't want to imagine how
>>>>>>> strong he would be if he was larger.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This all being sayed, I love my dog.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:30 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nicole,
>>>>>>>> Would that be the invincible chain? Monty has invinced three of
>>>>>>>> those now. I buy the largest size of the Invincible Chain the
>>>>>>>> one with the rings that are probably 6 inches in diameter. He
>>>>>>>> chews the middle ring from the chain within the first day, but
>>>>>>>> the two outer rings last for a few months.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>>>> Other fairly durable toys are Cuz, Ruffians, Buddha rope tugs,
>>>>>>>> and the original Kong. But that's from what I thought was a
>>>>>>>> strong chewer. I don't use a tie down, but I honestly can't
>>>>>>>> imagine a dog being able to chew through that. Holy cow! I
>>>>>>>> have no idea what sort of toy you are going to find that will
>>>>>>>> hold up to that level of chomp. If you do find something please
>>>>>>>> share!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/11/2012 3:48 PM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I have a black lab, but that is certainly no reason to
>>>>>>>>> discredit her for being a chewer. We used to buy the three
>>>>>>>>> rubber rings connected together from the pet store. However, we
>>>>>>>>> don't anymore as she will take them, find the joint were the
>>>>>>>>> ring was sealed, and chew it open in like 2 minutes!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan"
>>>>>>>>> <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:06 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nicole,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> O, by the way, what type of dog do you have?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at
>>>>>>>>>> Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:44 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes: goughnut
>>>>>>>>>>> No, it is not misspelled. They are not 100% indestructible,
>>>>>>>>>>> but they last several months. When your dog does finally
>>>>>>>>>>> manage to chew through the top layer of rubber, you can send
>>>>>>>>>>> it in for a replacement. They come in rubber rings and rubber
>>>>>>>>>>> sticks. They come in green and black, with the black being
>>>>>>>>>>> more durable.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan"
>>>>>>>>>>> <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:38 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think of the wellness 95% beef canned dog food
>>>>>>>>>>>> for supplemental feeding? Anyone have experience with it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, anyone feed there dogs a raw diet? I don't think this
>>>>>>>>>>>> is logistically possible for me in my current situation of
>>>>>>>>>>>> living in a dorm room; however, I am interested in learning
>>>>>>>>>>>> more about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Another thing, anyone have suggestions for truly
>>>>>>>>>>>> indestructible chew toys?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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> Message: 16
> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:36:25 -0500
> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog toys was Re: Dog food
> Message-ID: <A06312DA83FE42169AE5D0985B2F173B at cadiganpc>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
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>
> Meghan,
>
> Thanks for the suggestion. I wonder if that will make my dog's kibble more
> interesting. Sometimes he eats it with gusto, and sometimes he rather chew
> his nylobone.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Meghan Whalen" <mewhalen at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 9:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog toys was Re: Dog food
>
>
>>I have what I think is called the IQ treat ball. It is super hard plastic,
>>
>>and all Dayton has been able to do is slobber all over it. You can put
>>part of his daily kibble in it and let him punt it about your dorm.
>>They're kinda noisy, but the dogs love them, and they seem to hold up to
>>most anything.
>>
>> Meghan
>> On 2/12/2012 2:10 AM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>> Meghan,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This makes sense. I also got a super chewer shepherd. I just wish I could
>>>
>>> give him something more fun than a plain nylobone to play with when I
>>> can't be playing with him.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Meghan Whalen" <mewhalen at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 11:09 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>
>>>
>>>> Mark:
>>>>
>>>> I've got a super chewer shepherd. I have resorted to only giving him
>>>> things like his nylabone when I am not playing with him. Kongs and
>>>> other toys are only for when we are playing together. Otherwise, I put
>>>> them away. This way, he looks to me as the giver of good things, and
>>>> the toys last much longer.
>>>>
>>>> On 2/11/2012 6:04 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>>> Julie,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think I am just going to do that. I am going to just get toys monthly
>>>>>
>>>>> and then toss them when they get to badly damaged. What type of dog do
>>>>> you have?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:58 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> A lot of that sounds familiar. Monty chomped a tennis ball in half in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the first few days that I had him. the regular size is really to
>>>>>> small for him. It was a long time before I tried the larger softball
>>>>>> size tennis balls. He loves those things, but he peels them. I've
>>>>>> pretty much resigned myself to the fact that toys are not going to
>>>>>> last as long as advertised.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/11/2012 5:48 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>>>>> Julie,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This dog has a terrifying chomp. I'm glad he likes me. He has bit
>>>>>>> threw a dog leash, a tie down, numerous dog toys, multiple tennis
>>>>>>> balls, he destroyed a marrow bone, and I have only had him for a
>>>>>>> month.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This dog has also taken chunks out of a nyolobone and put teeth marks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> in cong toys. I've rapped his leash around a desk, and he dragged it
>>>>>>> 2 feet. He was wearing a pinch collar at the time, and it was a large
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> heavy table that took 3 people to get in place.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This dog is only about 80 pounds. I don't want to imagine how strong
>>>>>>> he would be if he was larger.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This all being sayed, I love my dog.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:30 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nicole,
>>>>>>>> Would that be the invincible chain? Monty has invinced three of
>>>>>>>> those now. I buy the largest size of the Invincible Chain the one
>>>>>>>> with the rings that are probably 6 inches in diameter. He chews the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> middle ring from the chain within the first day, but the two outer
>>>>>>>> rings last for a few months.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>>>> Other fairly durable toys are Cuz, Ruffians, Buddha rope tugs, and
>>>>>>>> the original Kong. But that's from what I thought was a strong
>>>>>>>> chewer. I don't use a tie down, but I honestly can't imagine a dog
>>>>>>>> being able to chew through that. Holy cow! I have no idea what
>>>>>>>> sort of toy you are going to find that will hold up to that level of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> chomp. If you do find something please share!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/11/2012 3:48 PM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I have a black lab, but that is certainly no reason to discredit
>>>>>>>>> her for being a chewer. We used to buy the three rubber rings
>>>>>>>>> connected together from the pet store. However, we don't anymore as
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> she will take them, find the joint were the ring was sealed, and
>>>>>>>>> chew it open in like 2 minutes!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan"
>>>>>>>>> <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:06 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nicole,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> O, by the way, what type of dog do you have?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home"
>>>>>>>>>> <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:44 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes: goughnut
>>>>>>>>>>> No, it is not misspelled. They are not 100% indestructible, but
>>>>>>>>>>> they last several months. When your dog does finally manage to
>>>>>>>>>>> chew through the top layer of rubber, you can send it in for a
>>>>>>>>>>> replacement. They come in rubber rings and rubber sticks. They
>>>>>>>>>>> come in green and black, with the black being more durable.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan"
>>>>>>>>>>> <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:38 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think of the wellness 95% beef canned dog food for
>>>>>>>>>>>> supplemental feeding? Anyone have experience with it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, anyone feed there dogs a raw diet? I don't think this is
>>>>>>>>>>>> logistically possible for me in my current situation of living
>>>>>>>>>>>> in a dorm room; however, I am interested in learning more about
>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Another thing, anyone have suggestions for truly indestructible
>>>>>>>>>>>> chew toys?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>>>>>>>>>>> info for nagdu:
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>
> Message: 17
> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:55:40 -0500
> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog toys was Re: Dog food
> Message-ID: <440C105AC8894BEFBE929961A7107E5B at cadiganpc>
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> Julie,
>
>
>
> I'll try that. Do you think I should get a basket ball, or some other type
> of ball made for dogs? Some kids had one of those massive beach balls. They
> thought it would be fun to watch my dog chase it, but when he cot it, not
> surprisingly he popped it.
>
>
>
> The kids at my dorm love my dog. Sometimes, when he is off harness, and I am
> free to supervise, I let the dog play with them in the common room. The dog
> loves the exercise, and the other students love it to.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 9:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog toys was Re: Dog food
>
>
>> Mark,
>>
>> I was thinking maybe a really big toy that he can't get his mouth around,
>> like a basketball? Some dogs enjoy pushing these sorts of toys around.
>> It seems that especially the herding breeds like them, maybe they simulate
>>
>> herding behavior? No idea. I have a Hole-e-Roller ball sp?, but my two
>> dogs could care less about it.
>>
>> Julie
>>
>>
>> On 2/12/2012 8:15 AM, Meghan Whalen wrote:
>>> I have what I think is called the IQ treat ball. It is super hard
>>> plastic, and all Dayton has been able to do is slobber all over it. You
>>> can put part of his daily kibble in it and let him punt it about your
>>> dorm. They're kinda noisy, but the dogs love them, and they seem to hold
>>>
>>> up to most anything.
>>>
>>> Meghan
>>> On 2/12/2012 2:10 AM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>> Meghan,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This makes sense. I also got a super chewer shepherd. I just wish I
>>>> could give him something more fun than a plain nylobone to play with
>>>> when I can't be playing with him.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Meghan Whalen" <mewhalen at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 11:09 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Mark:
>>>>>
>>>>> I've got a super chewer shepherd. I have resorted to only giving him
>>>>> things like his nylabone when I am not playing with him. Kongs and
>>>>> other toys are only for when we are playing together. Otherwise, I put
>>>>>
>>>>> them away. This way, he looks to me as the giver of good things, and
>>>>> the toys last much longer.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/11/2012 6:04 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>>>> Julie,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think I am just going to do that. I am going to just get toys
>>>>>> monthly and then toss them when they get to badly damaged. What type
>>>>>> of dog do you have?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:58 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A lot of that sounds familiar. Monty chomped a tennis ball in half
>>>>>>> in the first few days that I had him. the regular size is really to
>>>>>>> small for him. It was a long time before I tried the larger softball
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> size tennis balls. He loves those things, but he peels them. I've
>>>>>>> pretty much resigned myself to the fact that toys are not going to
>>>>>>> last as long as advertised.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/11/2012 5:48 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>>>>>> Julie,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This dog has a terrifying chomp. I'm glad he likes me. He has bit
>>>>>>>> threw a dog leash, a tie down, numerous dog toys, multiple tennis
>>>>>>>> balls, he destroyed a marrow bone, and I have only had him for a
>>>>>>>> month.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This dog has also taken chunks out of a nyolobone and put teeth
>>>>>>>> marks in cong toys. I've rapped his leash around a desk, and he
>>>>>>>> dragged it 2 feet. He was wearing a pinch collar at the time, and it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> was a large heavy table that took 3 people to get in place.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This dog is only about 80 pounds. I don't want to imagine how strong
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> he would be if he was larger.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This all being sayed, I love my dog.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:30 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nicole,
>>>>>>>>> Would that be the invincible chain? Monty has invinced three of
>>>>>>>>> those now. I buy the largest size of the Invincible Chain the one
>>>>>>>>> with the rings that are probably 6 inches in diameter. He chews
>>>>>>>>> the middle ring from the chain within the first day, but the two
>>>>>>>>> outer rings last for a few months.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>>>>> Other fairly durable toys are Cuz, Ruffians, Buddha rope tugs, and
>>>>>>>>> the original Kong. But that's from what I thought was a strong
>>>>>>>>> chewer. I don't use a tie down, but I honestly can't imagine a dog
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> being able to chew through that. Holy cow! I have no idea what
>>>>>>>>> sort of toy you are going to find that will hold up to that level
>>>>>>>>> of chomp. If you do find something please share!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2/11/2012 3:48 PM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I have a black lab, but that is certainly no reason to discredit
>>>>>>>>>> her for being a chewer. We used to buy the three rubber rings
>>>>>>>>>> connected together from the pet store. However, we don't anymore
>>>>>>>>>> as she will take them, find the joint were the ring was sealed,
>>>>>>>>>> and chew it open in like 2 minutes!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan"
>>>>>>>>>> <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:06 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nicole,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> O, by the way, what type of dog do you have?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home"
>>>>>>>>>>> <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:44 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes: goughnut
>>>>>>>>>>>> No, it is not misspelled. They are not 100% indestructible, but
>>>>>>>>>>>> they last several months. When your dog does finally manage to
>>>>>>>>>>>> chew through the top layer of rubber, you can send it in for a
>>>>>>>>>>>> replacement. They come in rubber rings and rubber sticks. They
>>>>>>>>>>>> come in green and black, with the black being more durable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:38 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think of the wellness 95% beef canned dog food for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> supplemental feeding? Anyone have experience with it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, anyone feed there dogs a raw diet? I don't think this is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> logistically possible for me in my current situation of living
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a dorm room; however, I am interested in learning more about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another thing, anyone have suggestions for truly indestructible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> chew toys?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>
> Message: 18
> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:21:59 -0500
> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Listen to your dog!!
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> That would be fun! Sorry! I know we went a bit far!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Listen to your dog!!
>
>
>> William and Larry,
>>
>> Could you guys please talk about this off list? It seems to be more of a
>>
>> personal conversation now, rather than something everyone could
>> participate in, unless you are inviting everyone bowling? *smile*
>>
>> Thanks much!
>> Julie
>> NAGDU list moderator
>>
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> Message: 19
> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:26:53 -0500
> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog toys was Re: Dog food
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> I gave an old soccer ball to a Jack Russell thinking that she couldn't get
> her mouth around it! Well, she couldn't, but she attacked the thing and
> chewed the outter coating off! We took it away from her just before she
> could pop it! I wonder if they have really big Kong balls? The biggest
> ones I've seen are about as big as softballs but they may make them bigger?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 9:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog toys was Re: Dog food
>
>
>> Julie,
>>
>>
>>
>> I'll try that. Do you think I should get a basket ball, or some other type
>>
>> of ball made for dogs? Some kids had one of those massive beach balls.
>> They thought it would be fun to watch my dog chase it, but when he cot it,
>>
>> not surprisingly he popped it.
>>
>>
>>
>> The kids at my dorm love my dog. Sometimes, when he is off harness, and I
>> am free to supervise, I let the dog play with them in the common room. The
>>
>> dog loves the exercise, and the other students love it to.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 9:34 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog toys was Re: Dog food
>>
>>
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>> I was thinking maybe a really big toy that he can't get his mouth around,
>>>
>>> like a basketball? Some dogs enjoy pushing these sorts of toys around.
>>> It seems that especially the herding breeds like them, maybe they
>>> simulate herding behavior? No idea. I have a Hole-e-Roller ball sp?,
>>> but my two dogs could care less about it.
>>>
>>> Julie
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/12/2012 8:15 AM, Meghan Whalen wrote:
>>>> I have what I think is called the IQ treat ball. It is super hard
>>>> plastic, and all Dayton has been able to do is slobber all over it. You
>>>>
>>>> can put part of his daily kibble in it and let him punt it about your
>>>> dorm. They're kinda noisy, but the dogs love them, and they seem to
>>>> hold up to most anything.
>>>>
>>>> Meghan
>>>> On 2/12/2012 2:10 AM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>>> Meghan,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This makes sense. I also got a super chewer shepherd. I just wish I
>>>>> could give him something more fun than a plain nylobone to play with
>>>>> when I can't be playing with him.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Meghan Whalen" <mewhalen at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 11:09 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've got a super chewer shepherd. I have resorted to only giving him
>>>>>> things like his nylabone when I am not playing with him. Kongs and
>>>>>> other toys are only for when we are playing together. Otherwise, I
>>>>>> put them away. This way, he looks to me as the giver of good things,
>>>>>> and the toys last much longer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/11/2012 6:04 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>>>>> Julie,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think I am just going to do that. I am going to just get toys
>>>>>>> monthly and then toss them when they get to badly damaged. What type
>>>>>>> of dog do you have?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:58 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A lot of that sounds familiar. Monty chomped a tennis ball in half
>>>>>>>> in the first few days that I had him. the regular size is really to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> small for him. It was a long time before I tried the larger
>>>>>>>> softball size tennis balls. He loves those things, but he peels
>>>>>>>> them. I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that toys are not
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> going to last as long as advertised.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/11/2012 5:48 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Julie,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This dog has a terrifying chomp. I'm glad he likes me. He has bit
>>>>>>>>> threw a dog leash, a tie down, numerous dog toys, multiple tennis
>>>>>>>>> balls, he destroyed a marrow bone, and I have only had him for a
>>>>>>>>> month.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This dog has also taken chunks out of a nyolobone and put teeth
>>>>>>>>> marks in cong toys. I've rapped his leash around a desk, and he
>>>>>>>>> dragged it 2 feet. He was wearing a pinch collar at the time, and
>>>>>>>>> it was a large heavy table that took 3 people to get in place.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This dog is only about 80 pounds. I don't want to imagine how
>>>>>>>>> strong he would be if he was larger.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This all being sayed, I love my dog.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:30 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nicole,
>>>>>>>>>> Would that be the invincible chain? Monty has invinced three of
>>>>>>>>>> those now. I buy the largest size of the Invincible Chain the one
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> with the rings that are probably 6 inches in diameter. He chews
>>>>>>>>>> the middle ring from the chain within the first day, but the two
>>>>>>>>>> outer rings last for a few months.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>>>>>> Other fairly durable toys are Cuz, Ruffians, Buddha rope tugs, and
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the original Kong. But that's from what I thought was a strong
>>>>>>>>>> chewer. I don't use a tie down, but I honestly can't imagine a
>>>>>>>>>> dog being able to chew through that. Holy cow! I have no idea
>>>>>>>>>> what sort of toy you are going to find that will hold up to that
>>>>>>>>>> level of chomp. If you do find something please share!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2/11/2012 3:48 PM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I have a black lab, but that is certainly no reason to discredit
>>>>>>>>>>> her for being a chewer. We used to buy the three rubber rings
>>>>>>>>>>> connected together from the pet store. However, we don't anymore
>>>>>>>>>>> as she will take them, find the joint were the ring was sealed,
>>>>>>>>>>> and chew it open in like 2 minutes!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan"
>>>>>>>>>>> <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:06 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nicole,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> O, by the way, what type of dog do you have?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:44 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes: goughnut
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, it is not misspelled. They are not 100% indestructible, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they last several months. When your dog does finally manage to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> chew through the top layer of rubber, you can send it in for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> replacement. They come in rubber rings and rubber sticks. They
>>>>>>>>>>>>> come in green and black, with the black being more durable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:38 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think of the wellness 95% beef canned dog food for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supplemental feeding? Anyone have experience with it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, anyone feed there dogs a raw diet? I don't think this is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logistically possible for me in my current situation of living
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a dorm room; however, I am interested in learning more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another thing, anyone have suggestions for truly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indestructible chew toys?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 20
> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:33:05 -0500
> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Listen to your dog!!
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> yea, i agree, but can you imagin the cheos of all of us in one bowling alley
> with all of our dogs, but on a more serious note, does anybody know the best
> way to get a black lab to slow down when walking on an icy surface?
> William And LD Lynard
>
>
>
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> Message: 21
> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:35:54 -0500
> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog toys was Re: Dog food
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> Larry, i haven't seen anything bigger then the Giant Kong and that is about
> that size
> William And LD Lynard
>
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> Message: 22
> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:15:42 -0600
> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog toys was Re: Dog food
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> I don't think it matters one way or the other if the toy is made for
> gogs or is just really durable for people use. Either way make sure the
> materials are sturdy and non toxic if he does get a bite. Me,
> personally, I'm super cheap and would probably go to the thrift store
> and pick up a basketball for a quarter. *smile*
>
> HTH
> Julie
>
>
> On 2/12/2012 8:55 AM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>> Julie,
>>
>>
>>
>> I'll try that. Do you think I should get a basket ball, or some other
>> type of ball made for dogs? Some kids had one of those massive beach
>> balls. They thought it would be fun to watch my dog chase it, but when
>> he cot it, not surprisingly he popped it.
>>
>>
>>
>> The kids at my dorm love my dog. Sometimes, when he is off harness,
>> and I am free to supervise, I let the dog play with them in the common
>> room. The dog loves the exercise, and the other students love it to.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 9:34 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog toys was Re: Dog food
>>
>>
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>> I was thinking maybe a really big toy that he can't get his mouth
>>> around, like a basketball? Some dogs enjoy pushing these sorts of
>>> toys around. It seems that especially the herding breeds like them,
>>> maybe they simulate herding behavior? No idea. I have a
>>> Hole-e-Roller ball sp?, but my two dogs could care less about it.
>>>
>>> Julie
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/12/2012 8:15 AM, Meghan Whalen wrote:
>>>> I have what I think is called the IQ treat ball. It is super hard
>>>> plastic, and all Dayton has been able to do is slobber all over it.
>>>> You can put part of his daily kibble in it and let him punt it about
>>>> your dorm. They're kinda noisy, but the dogs love them, and they
>>>> seem to hold up to most anything.
>>>>
>>>> Meghan
>>>> On 2/12/2012 2:10 AM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>>> Meghan,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This makes sense. I also got a super chewer shepherd. I just wish I
>>>>> could give him something more fun than a plain nylobone to play
>>>>> with when I can't be playing with him.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Meghan Whalen"
>>>>> <mewhalen at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 11:09 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've got a super chewer shepherd. I have resorted to only giving
>>>>>> him things like his nylabone when I am not playing with him.
>>>>>> Kongs and other toys are only for when we are playing together.
>>>>>> Otherwise, I put them away. This way, he looks to me as the giver
>>>>>> of good things, and the toys last much longer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/11/2012 6:04 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>>>>> Julie,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think I am just going to do that. I am going to just get toys
>>>>>>> monthly and then toss them when they get to badly damaged. What
>>>>>>> type of dog do you have?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:58 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A lot of that sounds familiar. Monty chomped a tennis ball in
>>>>>>>> half in the first few days that I had him. the regular size is
>>>>>>>> really to small for him. It was a long time before I tried the
>>>>>>>> larger softball size tennis balls. He loves those things, but
>>>>>>>> he peels them. I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that
>>>>>>>> toys are not going to last as long as advertised.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/11/2012 5:48 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Julie,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This dog has a terrifying chomp. I'm glad he likes me. He has
>>>>>>>>> bit threw a dog leash, a tie down, numerous dog toys, multiple
>>>>>>>>> tennis balls, he destroyed a marrow bone, and I have only had
>>>>>>>>> him for a month.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This dog has also taken chunks out of a nyolobone and put teeth
>>>>>>>>> marks in cong toys. I've rapped his leash around a desk, and he
>>>>>>>>> dragged it 2 feet. He was wearing a pinch collar at the time,
>>>>>>>>> and it was a large heavy table that took 3 people to get in place.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This dog is only about 80 pounds. I don't want to imagine how
>>>>>>>>> strong he would be if he was larger.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This all being sayed, I love my dog.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:30 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nicole,
>>>>>>>>>> Would that be the invincible chain? Monty has invinced three
>>>>>>>>>> of those now. I buy the largest size of the Invincible Chain
>>>>>>>>>> the one with the rings that are probably 6 inches in
>>>>>>>>>> diameter. He chews the middle ring from the chain within the
>>>>>>>>>> first day, but the two outer rings last for a few months.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>>>>>> Other fairly durable toys are Cuz, Ruffians, Buddha rope tugs,
>>>>>>>>>> and the original Kong. But that's from what I thought was a
>>>>>>>>>> strong chewer. I don't use a tie down, but I honestly can't
>>>>>>>>>> imagine a dog being able to chew through that. Holy cow! I
>>>>>>>>>> have no idea what sort of toy you are going to find that will
>>>>>>>>>> hold up to that level of chomp. If you do find something
>>>>>>>>>> please share!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2/11/2012 3:48 PM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I have a black lab, but that is certainly no reason to
>>>>>>>>>>> discredit her for being a chewer. We used to buy the three
>>>>>>>>>>> rubber rings connected together from the pet store. However,
>>>>>>>>>>> we don't anymore as she will take them, find the joint were
>>>>>>>>>>> the ring was sealed, and chew it open in like 2 minutes!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan"
>>>>>>>>>>> <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:06 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nicole,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> O, by the way, what type of dog do you have?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at
>>>>>>>>>>>> Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:44 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes: goughnut
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, it is not misspelled. They are not 100% indestructible,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but they last several months. When your dog does finally
>>>>>>>>>>>>> manage to chew through the top layer of rubber, you can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> send it in for a replacement. They come in rubber rings and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rubber sticks. They come in green and black, with the black
>>>>>>>>>>>>> being more durable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:38 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think of the wellness 95% beef canned dog food
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for supplemental feeding? Anyone have experience with it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, anyone feed there dogs a raw diet? I don't think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is logistically possible for me in my current
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> situation of living in a dorm room; however, I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in learning more about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another thing, anyone have suggestions for truly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indestructible chew toys?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> Message: 23
> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:23:10 -0600
> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] ice was Listen to your dog!!
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> William,
>
> Basically you treat it like any other obstacle. If he's not being
> careful, rework it. You may need to give some extra support during the
> rework if he's not getting it. A steady or easy or whatever you use to
> indicate to slow down and be cautious should do the trick.
>
> HTH
> Julie
>
>> yea, i agree, but can you imagin the cheos of all of us in one bowling
>> alley with all of our dogs, but on a more serious note, does anybody
>> know the best way to get a black lab to slow down when walking on an
>> icy surface?
>> William And LD Lynard
>>
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> Message: 24
> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:26:52 -0500
> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog toys was Re: Dog food
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> Julie,
>
>
>
> Well, I'll be certin to pick up a basket ball at my earliest opportunity. I
> had a ball for my dog; however, it went mysteriously missing.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 11:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog toys was Re: Dog food
>
>
>>I don't think it matters one way or the other if the toy is made for gogs
>>or is just really durable for people use. Either way make sure the
>>materials are sturdy and non toxic if he does get a bite. Me, personally,
>>I'm super cheap and would probably go to the thrift store and pick up a
>>basketball for a quarter. *smile*
>>
>> HTH
>> Julie
>>
>>
>> On 2/12/2012 8:55 AM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>> Julie,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'll try that. Do you think I should get a basket ball, or some other
>>> type of ball made for dogs? Some kids had one of those massive beach
>>> balls. They thought it would be fun to watch my dog chase it, but when he
>>>
>>> cot it, not surprisingly he popped it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The kids at my dorm love my dog. Sometimes, when he is off harness, and I
>>>
>>> am free to supervise, I let the dog play with them in the common room.
>>> The dog loves the exercise, and the other students love it to.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 9:34 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog toys was Re: Dog food
>>>
>>>
>>>> Mark,
>>>>
>>>> I was thinking maybe a really big toy that he can't get his mouth
>>>> around, like a basketball? Some dogs enjoy pushing these sorts of toys
>>>>
>>>> around. It seems that especially the herding breeds like them, maybe
>>>> they simulate herding behavior? No idea. I have a Hole-e-Roller ball
>>>> sp?, but my two dogs could care less about it.
>>>>
>>>> Julie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/12/2012 8:15 AM, Meghan Whalen wrote:
>>>>> I have what I think is called the IQ treat ball. It is super hard
>>>>> plastic, and all Dayton has been able to do is slobber all over it.
>>>>> You can put part of his daily kibble in it and let him punt it about
>>>>> your dorm. They're kinda noisy, but the dogs love them, and they seem
>>>>> to hold up to most anything.
>>>>>
>>>>> Meghan
>>>>> On 2/12/2012 2:10 AM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>>>> Meghan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This makes sense. I also got a super chewer shepherd. I just wish I
>>>>>> could give him something more fun than a plain nylobone to play with
>>>>>> when I can't be playing with him.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Meghan Whalen"
>>>>>> <mewhalen at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 11:09 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've got a super chewer shepherd. I have resorted to only giving him
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> things like his nylabone when I am not playing with him. Kongs and
>>>>>>> other toys are only for when we are playing together. Otherwise, I
>>>>>>> put them away. This way, he looks to me as the giver of good things,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and the toys last much longer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/11/2012 6:04 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>>>>>> Julie,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think I am just going to do that. I am going to just get toys
>>>>>>>> monthly and then toss them when they get to badly damaged. What type
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> of dog do you have?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:58 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A lot of that sounds familiar. Monty chomped a tennis ball in half
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> in the first few days that I had him. the regular size is really
>>>>>>>>> to small for him. It was a long time before I tried the larger
>>>>>>>>> softball size tennis balls. He loves those things, but he peels
>>>>>>>>> them. I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that toys are
>>>>>>>>> not going to last as long as advertised.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2/11/2012 5:48 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Julie,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This dog has a terrifying chomp. I'm glad he likes me. He has bit
>>>>>>>>>> threw a dog leash, a tie down, numerous dog toys, multiple tennis
>>>>>>>>>> balls, he destroyed a marrow bone, and I have only had him for a
>>>>>>>>>> month.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This dog has also taken chunks out of a nyolobone and put teeth
>>>>>>>>>> marks in cong toys. I've rapped his leash around a desk, and he
>>>>>>>>>> dragged it 2 feet. He was wearing a pinch collar at the time, and
>>>>>>>>>> it was a large heavy table that took 3 people to get in place.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This dog is only about 80 pounds. I don't want to imagine how
>>>>>>>>>> strong he would be if he was larger.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This all being sayed, I love my dog.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:30 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nicole,
>>>>>>>>>>> Would that be the invincible chain? Monty has invinced three of
>>>>>>>>>>> those now. I buy the largest size of the Invincible Chain the
>>>>>>>>>>> one with the rings that are probably 6 inches in diameter. He
>>>>>>>>>>> chews the middle ring from the chain within the first day, but
>>>>>>>>>>> the two outer rings last for a few months.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>>>>>>> Other fairly durable toys are Cuz, Ruffians, Buddha rope tugs,
>>>>>>>>>>> and the original Kong. But that's from what I thought was a
>>>>>>>>>>> strong chewer. I don't use a tie down, but I honestly can't
>>>>>>>>>>> imagine a dog being able to chew through that. Holy cow! I have
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> no idea what sort of toy you are going to find that will hold up
>>>>>>>>>>> to that level of chomp. If you do find something please share!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/11/2012 3:48 PM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a black lab, but that is certainly no reason to discredit
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> her for being a chewer. We used to buy the three rubber rings
>>>>>>>>>>>> connected together from the pet store. However, we don't anymore
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> as she will take them, find the joint were the ring was sealed,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and chew it open in like 2 minutes!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:06 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nicole,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> O, by the way, what type of dog do you have?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:44 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes: goughnut
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, it is not misspelled. They are not 100% indestructible,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but they last several months. When your dog does finally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manage to chew through the top layer of rubber, you can send
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it in for a replacement. They come in rubber rings and rubber
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sticks. They come in green and black, with the black being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more durable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:38 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think of the wellness 95% beef canned dog food
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for supplemental feeding? Anyone have experience with it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, anyone feed there dogs a raw diet? I don't think this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is logistically possible for me in my current situation of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> living in a dorm room; however, I am interested in learning
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another thing, anyone have suggestions for truly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indestructible chew toys?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 25
> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:31:49 -0500
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nagdu] Walking on ice
> Message-ID: <703d518dfeb44eacbb591e96f3e6f5a7.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Hi William.
> First I'd try telling him to steady, and maybe push forward on the harness
> a little. If that failed, well, I might fall down. That always focusses
> the dog's attention in a big way! Not much fun for me, though.
> Tracy
>> yea, i agree, but can you imagin the cheos of all of us in one bowling
>> alley
>> with all of our dogs, but on a more serious note, does anybody know the
>> best
>> way to get a black lab to slow down when walking on an icy surface?
>> William And LD Lynard
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 26
> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:44:02 -0500
> From: "A. J. LaPointe" <alapointe89 at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Walking on ice
> Message-ID: <NJEILCMLGFKGFMEMKBGOGENPOKAB.alapointe89 at comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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> Hi, as it is important to train the dog to determine how to deal with winter
> ice, it is also important to make sure that you are using anti-slip
> footwear. I don't know if you already are but, I know last year, I didn't
> have mine on and I feel so quickly that I didn't realize I was falling until
> I was down..
> I know with my three dogs, it seemed that ice was a big obstacle for them.
> Around here in Salem, MA. it is a struggle to get most to shovel and treat
> their walkways to make it easier and safer... I apologize if this
> information is already know to you.. Andy and Shubert.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]On
> Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 11:32 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: [nagdu] Walking on ice
>
>
> Hi William.
> First I'd try telling him to steady, and maybe push forward on the harness
> a little. If that failed, well, I might fall down. That always focusses
> the dog's attention in a big way! Not much fun for me, though.
> Tracy
>> yea, i agree, but can you imagin the cheos of all of us in one bowling
>> alley
>> with all of our dogs, but on a more serious note, does anybody know the
>> best
>> way to get a black lab to slow down when walking on an icy surface?
>> William And LD Lynard
>
>
>
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> Message: 27
> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:53:10 -0500
> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Walking on ice
> Message-ID: <4021103F195D4846A8B6D584443898CD at cadiganpc>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> A. J. LaPointe
>
>
>
> Lucky for us hear in Massachusetts, we have had a very warm winter this
> year.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "A. J. LaPointe" <alapointe89 at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 11:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Walking on ice
>
>
>> Hi, as it is important to train the dog to determine how to deal with
>> winter
>> ice, it is also important to make sure that you are using anti-slip
>> footwear. I don't know if you already are but, I know last year, I didn't
>> have mine on and I feel so quickly that I didn't realize I was falling
>> until
>> I was down..
>> I know with my three dogs, it seemed that ice was a big obstacle for them.
>> Around here in Salem, MA. it is a struggle to get most to shovel and treat
>> their walkways to make it easier and safer... I apologize if this
>> information is already know to you.. Andy and Shubert.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]On
>> Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
>> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 11:32 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: [nagdu] Walking on ice
>>
>>
>> Hi William.
>> First I'd try telling him to steady, and maybe push forward on the harness
>> a little. If that failed, well, I might fall down. That always focusses
>> the dog's attention in a big way! Not much fun for me, though.
>> Tracy
>>> yea, i agree, but can you imagin the cheos of all of us in one bowling
>>> alley
>>> with all of our dogs, but on a more serious note, does anybody know the
>>> best
>>> way to get a black lab to slow down when walking on an icy surface?
>>> William And LD Lynard
>>
>>
>>
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>
> Message: 28
> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:16:03 -0500
> From: "Jenine Stanley" <jeninems at wowway.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nagdu] Passing of GDF's first graduate Vito Vero
> Message-ID: <018301cce9a9$ffce3270$ff6a9750$@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I had the pleasure of meeting this gentleman in 1996 at our 50th anniversary
> celebration. I am greatly saddened to bring everyone in the guide dog
> community this news from Wells Jones, our CEO.
>
> We are saddened to report that Vito Vero, the Guide Dog Foundation's first
> graduate in 1946, passed away in February 2012 after a massive stroke.
> Vero was just 21 when Ingy, a white Labrador/Husky mix with bright blue
> eyes, entered his life. Blinded at 19, Vero had relied on a cane to get
> around, but always wanted a guide dog. He was placed on a long waiting list
> at an established school but, fortunately, he found out about a new school
> opening in Queens that provided guide dogs.
> On the first class in 1946, Vero was one of two students. Vero and his
> fellow student, the late Arthur Torgesen, became the first two people
> trained by renowned dog trainer William Holzmann.
> At a luncheon for Guide Dog Foundation staff in 2007, Vero recalled, "Back
> then, we stayed at the trainers' homes" because there was no Guide Dog
> Foundation campus until 1952. Holzmann trained the two men for seven weeks
> while they lived with him.
> "It wasn't easy back then," Vero said. "The Guide Dog Foundation was new
> and William Holzmann had been an attack dog trainer in the Army so he needed
> to learn from us just as much as we needed to learn from him."
> Holzmann had to teach his students and their dogs how to get around fire
> hydrants, baby carriages, down subway stairs and through revolving doors;
> obstacles sighted people don't really notice.
>
> A new life
> "I was working with my father as a carpenter since I was 10 years old," Vero
> joked, but after he had lost his sight, "I needed a new job."
> A friend told Vero about working with photography. "'How can I do
> photography when I can't see?'" Vero remembered he told his friend. He
> laughed when he recalled his friend's reply: "I have just the job for you -
> working in a darkroom."
> As a darkroom technician, Vero learned how to develop film, perforate it,
> and add soundtracks to a TV show or movie.
> "I worked for Technicolor Studios and many other studios," Vero said. "I
> developed the film for I Dream of Jeanie, Hogan's Heroes, and Superman."
> Because there were no lights and the brightness didn't hurt his eyes, the
> darkroom proved to be an ideal place for the young man.
> Ingy and Vero became true partners. The dog would help Vero travel to his
> job, or take him to the barbershop, or to the grocery store.
> In addition to his work in film and television, Vero often
> spoke on behalf of the Guide Dog Foundation, sharing how his life had
> changed thanks to his guide dogs. He was a trailblazer for the rights of
> people to be accompanied by their guide dog, no matter where they go.
> "One time, I was upstate (N.Y.) with a friend, and we wanted
> to go to dinner. The manager told us we couldn't come in with a dog," Vero
> recalled. "'But I'm blind,' I said, 'this is my guide dog.'"
> The manager still refused, so Vero went and called the
> highway patrol who showed up and told the manager he would face a fine if he
> didn't let Vero in. Finally, the manager allowed them to eat in the diner.
> For 60 years, Vero used guide dogs - seven in all. "Each one had their own
> unique personality," he said. "The one thing they had in common was they
> were all good workers!"
> It wasn't until 2006, at the age of 81, that he retired his last guide. "My
> legs ain't what they used to be," he joked at the 2007 luncheon. "Life was
> always easier with a guide dog."
> At Volunteer Recognition Day in 2011, on the 65th anniversary of its
> founding, the Foundation was pleased to honor Vito Vero.
> Vero is survived by his daughters, a NUMBER OF grandchildren,
> and his friends at the Guide Dog Foundation.
>
> Jenine Stanley
> jeninems at wowway.com
> http://www.twitter.com/jeninems
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 29
> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:43:12 -0800
> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going Inside
> Message-ID: <000001cce9ad$caf946d0$60ebd470$@suddenlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Thank you Meghan and list. She is on leash and I'll just keep trying to take
> her out, even more often than I do now...
> All the best, Hannah
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Meghan Whalen
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 8:12 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going Inside
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> Are you allowing her free run of your home? If so, I recommend keeping her
> on leash with you or on tiedown or in a kennel at all times until you have
> established a good relieving schedule. Don't play with her and get her
> wound up unless you know that she has recently emptied. Monitor how much
> water she is drinking etc.
>
> Meghan
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