[nagdu] Blueberries and milk bones

[Juanita Herrera]

Hi Hannah,
I'm sorry you are having a hard time with Princess adjusting. I did
hear from my trainers and instructors at GDB that milk bones are bad
for most dogs. I haven't even thought of buying Anise anything that
isn't her Natural Balance food. When she is around my pet dogs, I make
sure to remove all treats that might be laying around. I won't let her
off her leash until everything has been removed. Hope things improve
with you two. I'm sure she is just trying to adjust.
Juanita And Anise

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>    1. Re: blueberries and milk bones (Hannah Chadwick)
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>    3. Re: blueberries and milk bones (Cindy Ray)
>    4. Re: blueberries and milk bones (Hannah Chadwick)
>    5. Re: blueberries and milk bones (Cindy Ray)
>    6. Re: blueberries and milk bones (Hannah Chadwick)
>    7. Re: blueberries and milk bones (Cindy Ray)
>    8. Re: blueberries and milk bones (Cindy Ray)
>    9. Re: blueberries and milk bones (Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC))
>   10. Re: blueberries and milk bones (Hannah Chadwick)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:10:56 -0800
> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] blueberries and milk bones
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> Cindy,
> I think she only ate one or two blueberries so it might not have effected
> her too much.
> My grandma takes our family dog for walks and loves to give him treats. I
> guess there was half of one left that the dog didn't see or forgot about.
> Then Princess came along and ate it...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Cindy Ray
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:32 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] blueberries and milk bones
>
> Gosh, Hannah, I wouldn't have thought she had that much blueberry if your
> grandma thought she had it all picked up. Don't know the contraindication
> for blueberries. Does your family dog have milk bones all over the house? If
> that's so, your family is going to have to work on the bones not being
> around. We don't have any treats available for the pets that the other dog
> can't have, and any we give them, we monitor by giving each one, so I may
> not understand your situation.
>
> Cindy
>
> On Feb 14, 2012, at 11:59 PM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> So I took Princess to see my grandma this morning. As we walked in,
>> Princess picked something up and was already swallowing it before I
>> could tell her to "drop it". Then grandma tells me she had blueberries
>> for breakfast and that she spilled some on accident but that she thought
> she picked all of them up.
>> I'm sure this happens with other dogs and people, but what I don't
>> know is how blueberries effect dog's stomaches because Princess is now
>> having softer stools than this morning and has to go more frequently.
>> Oh yes, on top of all that, I think she might have picked up a bit of
>> leftover milk bones from our family dog. I think that might have also
>> caused her stool to be softer. Gosh, I'm definitely at a loss as to
>> what I should do...
>> She is still on her recommended diet of rice with boiled chicken and
>> mixed with cottage cheese; I started mixing her solid science diet
>> with the mixture a couple of days ago as well.
>> Will the milk bone and blueberry come out of her system if I just keep
>> her on the half and half (rice/chicken/cottage cheese and solid food)
> diet?
>> Thanks all in advance!
>> Best, Hannah
>>
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:13:54 -0800
> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
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> Mark,
> For some reason I think milk bones don't agree with Princess. I don't know
> why and it doesn't seem to me that it should effect her, but it does.
> She's been eating science diet all of her life and so do all the dogs at
> Pilot. I am thinking about switching foods though because a lot of my
> friends who have dogs suggest taste of the wild. Right now, I would like her
> to finish the huge bag of science diet I purchased for her when we got home.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Mark J. Cadigan
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:03 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] blueberries and milk bones
>
> Hannah
>
>
>
> I don't know about whole blueberries, however, some dog food contains
> blueberries. Also, milk bones should not make the dog sick.
>
>
>
> Also, I would look into switching to a different dog food. Science diet is
> extremely rich on the dog's stomach, and that could be part of the problem.
> However, not being there, I can not say for certin.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] blueberries and milk bones
>
>
>> Gosh, Hannah, I wouldn't have thought she had that much blueberry if your
>> grandma thought she had it all picked up. Don't know the contraindication
>> for blueberries. Does your family dog have milk bones all over the house?
>> If that's so, your family is going to have to work on the bones not being
>> around. We don't have any treats available for the pets that the other dog
>
>> can't have, and any we give them, we monitor by giving each one, so I may
>> not understand your situation.
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>> On Feb 14, 2012, at 11:59 PM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> So I took Princess to see my grandma this morning. As we walked in,
>>> Princess
>>> picked something up and was already swallowing it before I could tell her
>
>>> to
>>> "drop it". Then grandma tells me she had blueberries for breakfast and
>>> that
>>> she spilled some on accident but that she thought she picked all of them
>>> up.
>>> I'm sure this happens with other dogs and people, but what I don't know
>>> is
>>> how blueberries effect dog's stomaches because Princess is now having
>>> softer
>>> stools than this morning and has to go more frequently.
>>> Oh yes, on top of all that, I think she might have picked up a bit of
>>> leftover milk bones from our family dog. I think that might have also
>>> caused
>>> her stool to be softer. Gosh, I'm definitely at a loss as to what I
>>> should
>>> do...
>>> She is still on her recommended diet of rice with boiled chicken and
>>> mixed
>>> with cottage cheese; I started mixing her solid science diet with the
>>> mixture a couple of days ago as well.
>>> Will the milk bone and blueberry come out of her system if I just keep
>>> her
>>> on the half and half (rice/chicken/cottage cheese and solid food) diet?
>>> Thanks all in advance!
>>> Best, Hannah
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:15:07 -0600
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
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> Honestly, that doesn't seem like enough to have created a problem to me.
> Well then, I'm at a loss.
>
> CL
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> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:35:42 -0800
> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] blueberries and milk bones
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> Julie,
> Yes, my first thought is to take her to the vet, but so far this has
> happened a lot and if I take her every time, well you can just imagine the
> bill lol
> I'll start on the food excersize with her at some point very soon :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Julie J.
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:05 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] blueberries and milk bones
>
> Hannah,
>
> It might be that she has a very sensitive stomach and that anything she gets
> out of the ordinary will cause her digestive upset.  It too could be stress
> or the change in schedule or some underlying medical issue.  I feel your
> frustration.  I struggled with Monty's digestive issues for the first year
> or so I had him.  We went to the vet numerous times, tried different
> medications, changed foods, tried probiotics and herbal supplements and I
> don't remember what all.  Everything helped, for a while, which gave me
> hope.  Eventually we did get it sorted out.  He cannot have grains, most
> especially corn, wheat and soy.
>
> And Cindy's idea of working on food refusal is a good one.  I need to work
> on this too.  Monty used to be amazing at food refusal skills.  I got used
> to his excellent behavior and pretty much took it for granted.
> Last week he snagged a piece of lettuce off the floor while I was eating
> lunch with the young lady I mentor. *sigh*  Lettuce of all things.  So we'll
> be doing some refresher training very soon!
>
> Julie
>
>
>
>
> On 2/14/2012 11:59 PM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> So I took Princess to see my grandma this morning. As we walked in,
>> Princess picked something up and was already swallowing it before I
>> could tell her to "drop it". Then grandma tells me she had blueberries
>> for breakfast and that she spilled some on accident but that she thought
> she picked all of them up.
>> I'm sure this happens with other dogs and people, but what I don't
>> know is how blueberries effect dog's stomaches because Princess is now
>> having softer stools than this morning and has to go more frequently.
>> Oh yes, on top of all that, I think she might have picked up a bit of
>> leftover milk bones from our family dog. I think that might have also
>> caused her stool to be softer. Gosh, I'm definitely at a loss as to
>> what I should do...
>> She is still on her recommended diet of rice with boiled chicken and
>> mixed with cottage cheese; I started mixing her solid science diet
>> with the mixture a couple of days ago as well.
>> Will the milk bone and blueberry come out of her system if I just keep
>> her on the half and half (rice/chicken/cottage cheese and solid food)
> diet?
>> Thanks all in advance!
>> Best, Hannah
>>
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:40:04 -0600
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] blueberries and milk bones
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> You need to do the food exercise with her anyway as a preventive measure.
> Maybe if you take her to the vet enough they'll work harder to find what's
> wrong. I hear you about the bill though. Does Pilot have help for this kind
> of thing for a period after you get them? TSE has for at least catastrophic
> illnesses.
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:44:01 -0800
> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] blueberries and milk bones
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> Pilot pays up to $200 per year. I need to take her in for a visit in a week
> anyway just to make sure everything's ok.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Cindy Ray
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:40 AM
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] blueberries and milk bones
>
> You need to do the food exercise with her anyway as a preventive measure.
> Maybe if you take her to the vet enough they'll work harder to find what's
> wrong. I hear you about the bill though. Does Pilot have help for this kind
> of thing for a period after you get them? TSE has for at least catastrophic
> illnesses.
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:46:09 -0600
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] blueberries and milk bones
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> Well, I wouldn't hesitate to take her sooner if she is having a lot of
> trouble.
>
> Cindy
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:47:19 -0600
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] blueberries and milk bones
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> Oh, meant to ask, do they do that every year?
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:49:03 +0000
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> And since she is so new, I'd have the school pick up the tab.
> This is not okay.
>
>
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> Of Cindy Ray
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:46 PM
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> Well, I wouldn't hesitate to take her sooner if she is having a lot of
> trouble.
>
> Cindy
>
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> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:09:59 -0800
> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
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> I agree Cindy. I'm giving her another couple of days and see how it goes.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Well, I wouldn't hesitate to take her sooner if she is having a lot of
> trouble.
>
> Cindy
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> Yes, they do. Up to $200 every year
>
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> Oh, meant to ask, do they do that every year?
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> Fleas attack people so this is a health issue for everybody.
> Make the university hire someone to fix this, or do it yourself and beg
> forgiveness afterword.
> When yout hink about it, the university isn't going to say "You know, we
> want those fleas back".
> So do what you need to do with or without their permission.
>
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> As the subject line indicates, I promised a Bailey update. I don't know what
> the list policy on file attachments is, so forgive me if I overstep a
> boundary. I will attach Bailey's discharge papers to this email, for all who
> are interested. It's all text; there aren't any images and it is a fairly
> easy document to navigate. I offer it because there is a lot to say and my
> situation is thoroughly explained in this document. For those less
> interested, here is the summary:
> Despite Bailey's being on Frontline Plus, he has been diagnosed with fleas
> and a flea allergy. However, the severity of his skin infection suggests an
> additional irritant (maybe food). Before this can be explored, however, the
> flea situation must be dispatched. I am now applying Frontline every two
> weeks and bathing Bailey with a special medicated shampoo every week. He is
> also on a course of antibiotics. The vet recommends that I have the
> environment treated for fleas-that will involve an exterminator. Does anyone
> have experience with such? Since I live in university housing, this will
> involve a lot of convoluted crap. I'm not sure how to convince them that
> they need to treat the apartment-can't they just say "Get rid of the dog,
> then" or "we're not responsible for the health of dogs because dogs aren't
> generally in our housing units" or "We can't do that; and you're not allowed
> to hire an exterminator either". Not sure what to do here-any suggestions
> appreciated. There's a lot more in the discharge papers, so look at those if
> you are interested.
> Thanks,
> Robert Hooper
> Hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu<mailto:Hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:27:30 -0500
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] EPI
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> Hi Marsha.
> Sorry to hear about Emma's health problem.  Don't beat yourself up about
> it.  Stuff happens.  Hopefully, the medication will just be giving her a
> pill.  I've had a lot of experience with the daily pill, and it's no big
> deal.
> Good luck.
> Tracy
>
>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>>
>>
>> I had to take Emma to the vet this morning. For the last 3 to 4 months,
>> probably longer, Emma has had reoccurring diarrhea. She eats, wants to
>> eat,
>> but we will go into periods of the diarrhea, and then fine for a while. It
>> affects her work, as she does not feel well. So the doctor thinks she has
>> EPI, or exocrine pancreatic insufficiency.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have never heard of this personally. Are there other dogs that have
>> this?
>> She has lost 11 pounds in the last year and I can't put it back on her.
>> The
>> vet was taking her blood and going to send this off to Texas A&M for
>> testing. But he was 95percent sure that is what she has. Her coat was
>> being
>> affected too, as she was always itching.
>>
>>
>>
>> The vet says it can be treated, and hopefully she will put back on the
>> weight. I am just not sure where to go from here. I have read up online
>> about it. She will need to be put on a fiber free diet. And if the vet
>> does
>> confirm that she does have it will be medicine for the rest of her life.
>>
>>
>>
>> I haven't really said much to anyone about all of this, but I have been
>> planning on retiring Emma at some point in the future. Not because of this
>> recent medical stuff, but because my situation has changed. I am traveling
>> on Temple campus a lot, and can't hear traffic. My balance is bad. This is
>> among other things. I have put an application into a different school for
>> a
>> third dog that would help with guiding, balance and that could be trained
>> for alert, hearing stuff.
>>
>>
>>
>> I know I need to call Seeing Eye about this recent most medical issue. But
>> I
>> am just so devastated, I feel like I should have been able to prevent
>> this,
>> or I could have taken her in earlier. I also feel like Seeing Eye should
>> have known, but maybe they didn't. I am not by any means bashing them. Or
>> blaming them.
>>
>>
>>
>> Did any of this make sense? Maybe I am just feeling very alone with Emma
>> and
>> her now EPI.
>>
>>
>>
>> *sigh* so if there are other dogs out there that have EPI, please email
>> me.
>> What fiber free foods are good?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Marsha
>>
>> Emma, GSD 6 years old.
>>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:00:03 -0700
> From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bailey Update
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> I'm sorry to hear about Bailey's health issues. I don't know how the
> university will handle this matter. I hope Bailey recovers soon.
>
> Sheila Leigland
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:13:42 -0700
> From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] EPI
> Message-ID: <auto-000030597221 at fe-2.cluster1.bresnan.net>
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> I've never heard of it either. I hope she gets well soon.
>
> Sheila Leigland
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:46:06 -0500
> From: "loriandleo" <loriandleo at ohiohills.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bailey Update
> Message-ID: <011101ccec25$41f19c00$efdbe504 at o4r3f1>
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>
> Hi Robert, Poor Bailey.My Gipp is also allergic to flea bites and my vet
> recommended that I keep my dog on frontline Plus all year long. Plus my dog
> also has allot of outdoor allergies and food allergies to the  protein in
> the leading dog foods. So Gipp  is now eating Natural Balance Duck and
> Potato formula dog food which as you all probably know is a grain free
> food. Gipp's also on allergy medication. Good luck with getting down to the
> root of the problem. Take care.
>
> Lori and theGipper
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:58:47 -0500
> From: "loriandleo" <loriandleo at ohiohills.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] EPI
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>
> Hi Marsha,
>
> Oh I'm so sorry to hear about Emma's most recent medical condition.Yes, I
> have heard of Epi but I haven't experienced it myself with my dogs. I think
> you should wait for the test results to come back to be sure that Emma in
> fact does have Epi even though your vet pretty much confirmed it. Then go
> from there.Good luck with it all and what ever you decide to do. Take care.
>
> Lori and theGipper
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:03:08 -0700
> From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog uran getting the shoes Males VS Females
> Message-ID: <auto-000063415226 at fe-4.cluster1.bresnan.net>
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>
> My husband had a female golden that would hump other dogs and I had a pet
> dog when I was a kid that would try to hump your arm.
>
> Sheila Leigland
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:19:28 -0800
> From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog uran getting the shoes
> Message-ID: <047066F4A24E4F7D998D45BCB24246B2 at lindagwizdak>
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>
> I have had both males and female guides.  They are very similar.  I usually
> prefer males simply because they tend to be taller than the females and I
> need a tall dog.
>
> As far as what the schools put out, they seem to be half males and half
> females from what I've heard.
>
> Lyn and Landon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog uran getting the shoes
>
>
>> I'm pretty sure that the moderator is going to object to these topics.
>> LOL.
>>
>> On Feb 14, 2012, at 4:28 PM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps it simply means that men and women are different.
>>> Just out of curiosity, I wonder what the percentages are of men and women
>>>
>>> receiving male or female dogs. On a slightly different note, is there a
>>> difference in pass rate for male vs. female?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry D. Keeler"
>>> <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:04 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog uran getting the shoes
>>>
>>>
>>>> That's a really good point!  I did know one guy who really didn't want a
>>>>
>>>> male because he was afraid while cleaning him, he would accidentally
>>>> touch something!  Well, he is just silly but I do wonder about that.  I
>>>> also knew a woman at Pilot who didn't want a female.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 1:11 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog uran getting the shoes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Just as an interesting aside, I have only ever seen women have a
>>>>> specific dog gender preference. I'm not sure what that means.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 14, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this for real? You wouldn't want a male dog because you might get
>>>>>> peed on?
>>>>>> How will you handle children?
>>>>>> I'm serious, I don't understand the logic here. Can somebody explain?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 8:52 PM
>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog uran getting the shoes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lexia is my first dog. I do not want a male dog for the reasons
>>>>>> mentioned in
>>>>>> the email.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 5:42 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] dog uran getting the shoes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi, Larry,
>>>>>>> I experienced that during training myself, the dog uran getting on my
>>>>>>> tennis shoes.
>>>>>>> Unfortunately, I only had one pair of tennis shoes, so couldn't wash
>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>> immediately for I wasn't sure if they'd be dry before the following
>>>>>>> day of
>>>>>>> training.
>>>>>>> It was Freedom David Berry who marked my shoes while he lifted his
>>>>>>> leg up
>>>>>>> on one of the metal bars in the relief area at Pilot.
>>>>>>> Reason for hearing the males go is because their peaing is louder and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> don't sit down all the way.
>>>>>>> All of my guide have just squated halfway.
>>>>>>> I did have the practice of parking two female dogs and wasn't able to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hear
>>>>>>> them pea either because they would sit down on the ground all the
>>>>>>> way.
>>>>>>> As for the males doing the number two thing, they would be in the
>>>>>>> sitting
>>>>>>> position while going.
>>>>>>> For the females, the would be sitting halgway toward the ground.
>>>>>>> As for Orleans and Odie, neither of them marked or peaed on my tennis
>>>>>>> shoes and I was thankful for that.
>>>>>>> As for the part of stepping in that gooy stuff, I didn't like that
>>>>>>> feeling
>>>>>>> with and withoutt wearing shoes.
>>>>>>> Just thought I'd share my experiences.
>>>>>>> I'm curious to hear from others on their experiences of what it was
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> for them when having a male or female dog when potty time occured?
>>>>>>> Bibi, husband Dale and Odie
>>>>>>> medical alert service dog
>>>>>>> the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
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>>>>>
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> Message: 20
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:25:13 -0800
> From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] just when you think you've heard it all
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> Sean,
> I wonder if kids today aren't beeing raised with animals in the home like we
> were.  We were taught since early childhood that animals were real, living
> things that needed gentle handling.  To those nasty kids, my answer to their
> questions about kicking and hurting your dog, I'd ask THEM if I could kick
> or hurt THEM! LOL!
>
> Lyn and Landon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 5:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] just when you think you've heard it all
>
>
>> Can they hurt your dog? What exactly do they mean by this?
>>
>> Maybe I don't want to know.
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>> On Feb 14, 2012, at 6:59 PM, Sean Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Never had that happen with Franklin and I run into some weird people in
>>> my area, but wanting to smell Franklin would be weird.
>>>
>>> Now I know of a few kids in my apartment complex who seem to always ask:
>>> "can I kick your dog?"  a girl about 13 - 16 or something, its just weird
>>>
>>> and well somewhat scary. Franklin just kind of stares at her and some of
>>> the other kids who are nuts or ask: Can I hurt your dog?
>>>
>>> If this is the future generation, then I'm scared and I'm 24, one of
>>> though those future generation kids.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yours,
>>> Sean and Franklin
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Julie J.
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 7:50 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: [nagdu] just when you think you've heard it all
>>>
>>> Okay you guys, this one is just crazy!
>>>
>>> Today I started teaching a truancy prevention/academic achievement
>>> curriculum at an after school program for junior high kids.   The kids
>>> were crazy, so I bribed them with getting to pet the dog if we got
>>> through the program in time.  Not sure that was a good idea, but I'm not
>>> used to groups of crazy kids.  Anyway we did get through the lesson and
>>> had a few minutes to pet the dog.  I laid out the rules...one at a
>>> time...be gentle...etc.  All was going great.  They were mostly
>>> following the rules.  They were calming down.  I was answering
>>> questions, what kind of dog is he, what can he do, does he go everywhere
>>> with me...all the usual stuff.  Then I was asked this:
>>>
>>> Can I smell your dog?
>>>
>>> Really, I could not make this up.  Being at a loss for something
>>> eloquent to reply with, I just spluttered sure.  And the kid then gave
>>> Monty a good sniff.  I mean like he pressed his entire face to Monty's
>>> side and inhaled audibly.  He thought Monty smelled nice, fresh and
>>> clean. This has to be one of the weirdest encounters in all my guide dog
>>> adventures.
>>>
>>> Julie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 21
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:02:32 -0800
> From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Food refusal
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> I had a shepherd that yelped when corrected.  She did it BECAUSE it was a
> correction.  I knew this because she has yanked herself alot harder in play
> and no yelp.
>
> If it happened in public, I'd do a real quick correct of whatever type -
> real fast and next to no undue body motion on my part.  then people would
> just assume that someone accidently stepped on the dog!  Worked for me! LOL!
>
> Lyn and Landon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug Parisian" <eggmann at shaw.ca>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 8:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Food refusal
>
>
>> Public attention; I'm nobody's pet monkey and those folks who faint over a
>>
>> little yelp, if it occurs, ain't worth even my excess body gas.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Food refusal
>>
>>
>>> Well, it works same as the little choking thing I do with my dog does
>>> when he is hassling other dogs, but I'm not sure I'd do it in a
>>> restaurant if it is going to get him to yelp. I think I would start by
>>> using a verbal correction, firmly, and then if you can do the subtle
>>> thing you did before. We do have a public image we have to keep up, and a
>>>
>>> dog yelping when you have grabbed it by its skin will get attention that
>>> you won't want, I think. Labbies accept that without a whimper, but GSDs,
>>>
>>> at least the ones I've known, are "drama queens."
>>>
>>> CL
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 22
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 23:19:01 +0000 (GMT)
> From: t21114 at optonline.net
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] EPI
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> Hi Marsha,
> hopefully the medication will help Emma . Today at work I had to run out
> with Anna as she had diareah. She lets know so I was lucky. I had to leave
> for an outreach at 11:30 and then I spoke at a school. Anna seemed ok but
> you never know. while I was speaking in the school she found an eraser on
> the floor and when I heard her I got it out and asked the teacher what it
> was.
> Marilyn and Anna
>
>
>  Hi Folks,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I had to take Emma to the vet this morning. For the last 3 to
>> 4 months,
>> > probably longer, Emma has had reoccurring diarrhea. She eats,
>> wants to
>> > eat,
>> > but we will go into periods of the diarrhea, and then fine for
>> a while. It
>> > affects her work, as she does not feel well. So the doctor
>> thinks she has
>> > EPI, or exocrine pancreatic insufficiency.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I have never heard of this personally. Are there other dogs
>> that have
>> > this?
>> > She has lost 11 pounds in the last year and I can't put it
>> back on her.
>> > The
>> > vet was taking her blood and going to send this off to Texas
>> A&M for
>> > testing. But he was 95percent sure that is what she has. Her
>> coat was
>> > being
>> > affected too, as she was always itching.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The vet says it can be treated, and hopefully she will put
>> back on the
>> > weight. I am just not sure where to go from here. I have read
>> up online
>> > about it. She will need to be put on a fiber free diet. And if
>> the vet
>> > does
>> > confirm that she does have it will be medicine for the rest of
>> her life.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I haven't really said much to anyone about all of this, but I
>> have been
>> > planning on retiring Emma at some point in the future. Not
>> because of this
>> > recent medical stuff, but because my situation has changed. I
>> am traveling
>> > on Temple campus a lot, and can't hear traffic. My balance is
>> bad. This is
>> > among other things. I have put an application into a different
>> school for
>> > a
>> > third dog that would help with guiding, balance and that could
>> be trained
>> > for alert, hearing stuff.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I know I need to call Seeing Eye about this recent most
>> medical issue. But
>> > I
>> > am just so devastated, I feel like I should have been able to
>> prevent> this,
>> > or I could have taken her in earlier. I also feel like Seeing
>> Eye should
>> > have known, but maybe they didn't. I am not by any means
>> bashing them. Or
>> > blaming them.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Did any of this make sense? Maybe I am just feeling very alone
>> with Emma
>> > and
>> > her now EPI.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > *sigh* so if there are other dogs out there that have EPI,
>> please email
>> > me.
>> > What fiber free foods are good?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Thank you,
>> >
>> > Marsha
>> >
>> > Emma, GSD 6 years old.
>> >
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>
> Message: 23
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 22:07:18 -0700
> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
> Subject: [nagdu] Just When I Thought I'd Seen It All
> Message-ID: <73E240CCC38945DB9C5D41B4320D5223 at bibi>
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> Hi, all,
> If you'd rather not read this, then go ahead and press your delete key to
> read your other emails.
> Today was a crazy, annoying day.
> While my housekeeper was here, one of the front loading washers messed up
> and she couldn't take anything out of it.
> So, Dale ended up having to rewash everything.
> While that was happening and we were in the bedroom as the keeper was
> finishing up, Odie decided to dirty the floor again by getting sick.
> What made the whole thing weird is that when I cleanned up his mess, there
> wasn't exactly food particals, but turned out he was dehydorated from not
> drinking water.
> I cleanned up the majority of his mess and Julia, the cleanning lady helpped
> me get what was left up off the floor.
> Dale immediately had taken Odie outtside in case he were to get sick some
> more.
> When Dale came back up to go check the washing machine which we were using,
> it wasn't working and we figured out someone intentionally had unplugged it
> which isn't too bright.
> Once we got that managed, dale and I went back into the apartment as we both
> had to go across the hallway to the laundry room anyway.
> Once back inside our home, Dale took Odie into the bathroom and put in the
> tub to give him water by hand in case crazy labrador were to get sick again
> which was what happened.
> Since Odie was in the tub anyway, everything initially went down the drain
> after he did get sick again.
> This had to be done probably for ten minutes or so, hand watering Odie's
> mouth.
> Later on this evening, Dale cooked up some rice for him which Odie ate for
> supper.
> He's definitely a true, real, human kid and not a dog in his eyes.
> As for the water thing, dale and I may try to use bottled water or destilt
> water with Odie to see if he prefers that over the tap water.
> Odie is definitely a hard headed stubron labrador and always has been from
> day one.
> I know i'm hard headed and stubron, but mine and Dale four-legged furry kid
> displays it more off.
> regardless, we definitely love him, no matter what.
> Bibi, husband Dale and Odie
> medical alert service dog
> the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 24
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 22:42:50 -0700
> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bailey Update
> Message-ID: <E873A76D6E88420FACA2470B6CBB4359 at bibi>
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> I've used K9 Advantics on Odie as I discovered they did more good than what
> the Frontline did.
> The K9 Advantics kept away the fleas and gnats, they also killed off
> mosquitos and the bed bugs didn't like it either.
> If anyone is told to get rid of their service dog due to fleas and your dog
> isn't the source, you do have the option to file a complaint at the ADA web
> site that is probably under the US Department of Justice.
> Keep hanging in there Robert H and Bailey as I'll be crossing my fingers for
> the two of you and keep praying.
> Bibi
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 25
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 22:48:28 -0700
> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] EPI
> Message-ID: <3F4C0E338B7C42EDA4ECABBA918A4E37 at bibi>
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>
> I've had to deal with a similar problem myself since Odie was born with a
> damaged trachea caused by a birth defect.
> I soak up the dry dog food in water so it would be easier for him to swallow
> and it won't get stuck.
> If the food gets stuck, he ends up throwing up immediately.
> Odie also has a sensitive stomach which doesn't make things easier, so he
> permanently has to take an over the counter acid relief meds.
> I use an elevated stand where Odie doesn't have to bend down low to eat from
> the bowls.
> Marsha, would you be able to try that with Emma probably, using an elevated
> food stand?
> *Just curious*
> Bibi, husband Dale and Odie
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 26
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 09:12:50 -0500
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nagdu] 15th anniversary
> Message-ID: <8347a130df1144aa2d48e54bcae487ad.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Today is the 15th anniversary of Echo and my meeting at GDB San Rafael.
> She's not the cute, wiggly pup she was then, but she's a lovely girl in a
> different way now.  I can't say she's going strong, but she still does
> what she wants to do and she's not ready to go just yet.
> When we met, she would roll over at any excuse.  I remember waiting in
> line to go in to the dining room and giving Echo a belly rub.  Her trainer
> said, when they first started training her, they had to be careful how
> they praised her, or she'd flop over in the middle of the sidewalk or
> street!  She had a power tail that wagged all the time.  I used to think
> it was connected to her heart, and when it stopped, so would she.  But no.
>  Her back end has gotten weak, so she can't wag like she used to, but she
> still waves her tail a bit.  It's harder to tell when she's happy than it
> used to be, but I think she is still happy to be around.
> So here's to 15 years of Echotude.
> Tracy
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 27
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:15:05 -0500
> From: "Bob Hicks" <bob at seeinghandassociation.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] 15th anniversary
> Message-ID: <610B9E4BC745403C80123986C4854721 at vision04>
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>
> Hi Tracy & Echo.  Congratulations to a great team!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Bob Hicks
> Access Technology Specialist
> Seeing Hand Association, Inc.
> 304-232-4810
> <bob at seeinghandassociation.com>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 9:12 AM
> Subject: [nagdu] 15th anniversary
>
>
>> Today is the 15th anniversary of Echo and my meeting at GDB San Rafael.
>> She's not the cute, wiggly pup she was then, but she's a lovely girl in a
>> different way now.  I can't say she's going strong, but she still does
>> what she wants to do and she's not ready to go just yet.
>> When we met, she would roll over at any excuse.  I remember waiting in
>> line to go in to the dining room and giving Echo a belly rub.  Her trainer
>> said, when they first started training her, they had to be careful how
>> they praised her, or she'd flop over in the middle of the sidewalk or
>> street!  She had a power tail that wagged all the time.  I used to think
>> it was connected to her heart, and when it stopped, so would she.  But no.
>> Her back end has gotten weak, so she can't wag like she used to, but she
>> still waves her tail a bit.  It's harder to tell when she's happy than it
>> used to be, but I think she is still happy to be around.
>> So here's to 15 years of Echotude.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>>
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