[nagdu] Blueberries and milk bones

Ava Foster avapup.7 at gmail.com
Fri Feb 17 17:38:12 UTC 2012


One large size Milk Bone has 120 calories! I don't know about other
dogs but for Cocoa, that adds up! I have to work hard to keep her
weight down, so that is one thing I dislike about them. Ava

On 2/16/12, Juanita Herrera <juanita.herrera91 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Hannah,
> I'm sorry you are having a hard time with Princess adjusting. I did
> hear from my trainers and instructors at GDB that milk bones are bad
> for most dogs. I haven't even thought of buying Anise anything that
> isn't her Natural Balance food. When she is around my pet dogs, I make
> sure to remove all treats that might be laying around. I won't let her
> off her leash until everything has been removed. Hope things improve
> with you two. I'm sure she is just trying to adjust.
> Juanita And Anise
>
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>>    1. Re: blueberries and milk bones (Hannah Chadwick)
>>    2. Re: blueberries and milk bones (Hannah Chadwick)
>>    3. Re: blueberries and milk bones (Cindy Ray)
>>    4. Re: blueberries and milk bones (Hannah Chadwick)
>>    5. Re: blueberries and milk bones (Cindy Ray)
>>    6. Re: blueberries and milk bones (Hannah Chadwick)
>>    7. Re: blueberries and milk bones (Cindy Ray)
>>    8. Re: blueberries and milk bones (Cindy Ray)
>>    9. Re: blueberries and milk bones (Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC))
>>   10. Re: blueberries and milk bones (Hannah Chadwick)
>>   11. Re: blueberries and milk bones (Hannah Chadwick)
>>   12. Re: Bailey Update (Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC))
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:10:56 -0800
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog
>> 	Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] blueberries and milk bones
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>> Cindy,
>> I think she only ate one or two blueberries so it might not have effected
>> her too much.
>> My grandma takes our family dog for walks and loves to give him treats. I
>> guess there was half of one left that the dog didn't see or forgot about.
>> Then Princess came along and ate it...
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Cindy Ray
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:32 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] blueberries and milk bones
>>
>> Gosh, Hannah, I wouldn't have thought she had that much blueberry if your
>> grandma thought she had it all picked up. Don't know the contraindication
>> for blueberries. Does your family dog have milk bones all over the house?
>> If
>> that's so, your family is going to have to work on the bones not being
>> around. We don't have any treats available for the pets that the other dog
>> can't have, and any we give them, we monitor by giving each one, so I may
>> not understand your situation.
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>> On Feb 14, 2012, at 11:59 PM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> So I took Princess to see my grandma this morning. As we walked in,
>>> Princess picked something up and was already swallowing it before I
>>> could tell her to "drop it". Then grandma tells me she had blueberries
>>> for breakfast and that she spilled some on accident but that she thought
>> she picked all of them up.
>>> I'm sure this happens with other dogs and people, but what I don't
>>> know is how blueberries effect dog's stomaches because Princess is now
>>> having softer stools than this morning and has to go more frequently.
>>> Oh yes, on top of all that, I think she might have picked up a bit of
>>> leftover milk bones from our family dog. I think that might have also
>>> caused her stool to be softer. Gosh, I'm definitely at a loss as to
>>> what I should do...
>>> She is still on her recommended diet of rice with boiled chicken and
>>> mixed with cottage cheese; I started mixing her solid science diet
>>> with the mixture a couple of days ago as well.
>>> Will the milk bone and blueberry come out of her system if I just keep
>>> her on the half and half (rice/chicken/cottage cheese and solid food)
>> diet?
>>> Thanks all in advance!
>>> Best, Hannah
>>>
>>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:13:54 -0800
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog
>> 	Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] blueberries and milk bones
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>> Mark,
>> For some reason I think milk bones don't agree with Princess. I don't know
>> why and it doesn't seem to me that it should effect her, but it does.
>> She's been eating science diet all of her life and so do all the dogs at
>> Pilot. I am thinking about switching foods though because a lot of my
>> friends who have dogs suggest taste of the wild. Right now, I would like
>> her
>> to finish the huge bag of science diet I purchased for her when we got
>> home.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Mark J. Cadigan
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:03 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] blueberries and milk bones
>>
>> Hannah
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't know about whole blueberries, however, some dog food contains
>> blueberries. Also, milk bones should not make the dog sick.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, I would look into switching to a different dog food. Science diet is
>> extremely rich on the dog's stomach, and that could be part of the
>> problem.
>> However, not being there, I can not say for certin.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] blueberries and milk bones
>>
>>
>>> Gosh, Hannah, I wouldn't have thought she had that much blueberry if your
>>> grandma thought she had it all picked up. Don't know the contraindication
>>> for blueberries. Does your family dog have milk bones all over the house?
>>> If that's so, your family is going to have to work on the bones not being
>>> around. We don't have any treats available for the pets that the other
>>> dog
>>
>>> can't have, and any we give them, we monitor by giving each one, so I may
>>> not understand your situation.
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>> On Feb 14, 2012, at 11:59 PM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> So I took Princess to see my grandma this morning. As we walked in,
>>>> Princess
>>>> picked something up and was already swallowing it before I could tell
>>>> her
>>
>>>> to
>>>> "drop it". Then grandma tells me she had blueberries for breakfast and
>>>> that
>>>> she spilled some on accident but that she thought she picked all of them
>>>> up.
>>>> I'm sure this happens with other dogs and people, but what I don't know
>>>> is
>>>> how blueberries effect dog's stomaches because Princess is now having
>>>> softer
>>>> stools than this morning and has to go more frequently.
>>>> Oh yes, on top of all that, I think she might have picked up a bit of
>>>> leftover milk bones from our family dog. I think that might have also
>>>> caused
>>>> her stool to be softer. Gosh, I'm definitely at a loss as to what I
>>>> should
>>>> do...
>>>> She is still on her recommended diet of rice with boiled chicken and
>>>> mixed
>>>> with cottage cheese; I started mixing her solid science diet with the
>>>> mixture a couple of days ago as well.
>>>> Will the milk bone and blueberry come out of her system if I just keep
>>>> her
>>>> on the half and half (rice/chicken/cottage cheese and solid food) diet?
>>>> Thanks all in advance!
>>>> Best, Hannah
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:15:07 -0600
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] blueberries and milk bones
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>> Honestly, that doesn't seem like enough to have created a problem to me.
>> Well then, I'm at a loss.
>>
>> CL
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:35:42 -0800
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog
>> 	Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] blueberries and milk bones
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>> Julie,
>> Yes, my first thought is to take her to the vet, but so far this has
>> happened a lot and if I take her every time, well you can just imagine the
>> bill lol
>> I'll start on the food excersize with her at some point very soon :)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Julie J.
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:05 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] blueberries and milk bones
>>
>> Hannah,
>>
>> It might be that she has a very sensitive stomach and that anything she
>> gets
>> out of the ordinary will cause her digestive upset.  It too could be
>> stress
>> or the change in schedule or some underlying medical issue.  I feel your
>> frustration.  I struggled with Monty's digestive issues for the first year
>> or so I had him.  We went to the vet numerous times, tried different
>> medications, changed foods, tried probiotics and herbal supplements and I
>> don't remember what all.  Everything helped, for a while, which gave me
>> hope.  Eventually we did get it sorted out.  He cannot have grains, most
>> especially corn, wheat and soy.
>>
>> And Cindy's idea of working on food refusal is a good one.  I need to work
>> on this too.  Monty used to be amazing at food refusal skills.  I got used
>> to his excellent behavior and pretty much took it for granted.
>> Last week he snagged a piece of lettuce off the floor while I was eating
>> lunch with the young lady I mentor. *sigh*  Lettuce of all things.  So
>> we'll
>> be doing some refresher training very soon!
>>
>> Julie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/14/2012 11:59 PM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> So I took Princess to see my grandma this morning. As we walked in,
>>> Princess picked something up and was already swallowing it before I
>>> could tell her to "drop it". Then grandma tells me she had blueberries
>>> for breakfast and that she spilled some on accident but that she thought
>> she picked all of them up.
>>> I'm sure this happens with other dogs and people, but what I don't
>>> know is how blueberries effect dog's stomaches because Princess is now
>>> having softer stools than this morning and has to go more frequently.
>>> Oh yes, on top of all that, I think she might have picked up a bit of
>>> leftover milk bones from our family dog. I think that might have also
>>> caused her stool to be softer. Gosh, I'm definitely at a loss as to
>>> what I should do...
>>> She is still on her recommended diet of rice with boiled chicken and
>>> mixed with cottage cheese; I started mixing her solid science diet
>>> with the mixture a couple of days ago as well.
>>> Will the milk bone and blueberry come out of her system if I just keep
>>> her on the half and half (rice/chicken/cottage cheese and solid food)
>> diet?
>>> Thanks all in advance!
>>> Best, Hannah
>>>
>>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:40:04 -0600
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] blueberries and milk bones
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>> You need to do the food exercise with her anyway as a preventive measure.
>> Maybe if you take her to the vet enough they'll work harder to find what's
>> wrong. I hear you about the bill though. Does Pilot have help for this
>> kind
>> of thing for a period after you get them? TSE has for at least
>> catastrophic
>> illnesses.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:44:01 -0800
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog
>> 	Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] blueberries and milk bones
>> Message-ID: <002a01ccec11$c9dec200$5d9c4600$@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
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>> Pilot pays up to $200 per year. I need to take her in for a visit in a
>> week
>> anyway just to make sure everything's ok.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Cindy Ray
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:40 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] blueberries and milk bones
>>
>> You need to do the food exercise with her anyway as a preventive measure.
>> Maybe if you take her to the vet enough they'll work harder to find what's
>> wrong. I hear you about the bill though. Does Pilot have help for this
>> kind
>> of thing for a period after you get them? TSE has for at least
>> catastrophic
>> illnesses.
>>
>>
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:46:09 -0600
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] blueberries and milk bones
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>> Well, I wouldn't hesitate to take her sooner if she is having a lot of
>> trouble.
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 8
>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:47:19 -0600
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] blueberries and milk bones
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>> Oh, meant to ask, do they do that every year?
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 9
>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:49:03 +0000
>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog
>> 	Users'"	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] blueberries and milk bones
>> Message-ID: <AAE38548E198F64B8E345439B68CCC7832F79664 at TSEAMB02>
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>> And since she is so new, I'd have the school pick up the tab.
>> This is not okay.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Cindy Ray
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:46 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] blueberries and milk bones
>>
>> Well, I wouldn't hesitate to take her sooner if she is having a lot of
>> trouble.
>>
>> Cindy
>>
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>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:09:59 -0800
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog
>> 	Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] blueberries and milk bones
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>> I agree Cindy. I'm giving her another couple of days and see how it goes.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Of Cindy Ray
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:46 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] blueberries and milk bones
>>
>> Well, I wouldn't hesitate to take her sooner if she is having a lot of
>> trouble.
>>
>> Cindy
>>
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>> Message: 11
>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:10:26 -0800
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog
>> 	Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] blueberries and milk bones
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>> Yes, they do. Up to $200 every year
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Of Cindy Ray
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:47 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] blueberries and milk bones
>>
>> Oh, meant to ask, do they do that every year?
>>
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>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
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>> Fleas attack people so this is a health issue for everybody.
>> Make the university hire someone to fix this, or do it yourself and beg
>> forgiveness afterword.
>> When yout hink about it, the university isn't going to say "You know, we
>> want those fleas back".
>> So do what you need to do with or without their permission.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Of Robert Hooper
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:58 AM
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>> Subject: [nagdu] Bailey Update
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>> As the subject line indicates, I promised a Bailey update. I don't know
>> what
>> the list policy on file attachments is, so forgive me if I overstep a
>> boundary. I will attach Bailey's discharge papers to this email, for all
>> who
>> are interested. It's all text; there aren't any images and it is a fairly
>> easy document to navigate. I offer it because there is a lot to say and my
>> situation is thoroughly explained in this document. For those less
>> interested, here is the summary:
>> Despite Bailey's being on Frontline Plus, he has been diagnosed with fleas
>> and a flea allergy. However, the severity of his skin infection suggests
>> an
>> additional irritant (maybe food). Before this can be explored, however,
>> the
>> flea situation must be dispatched. I am now applying Frontline every two
>> weeks and bathing Bailey with a special medicated shampoo every week. He
>> is
>> also on a course of antibiotics. The vet recommends that I have the
>> environment treated for fleas-that will involve an exterminator. Does
>> anyone
>> have experience with such? Since I live in university housing, this will
>> involve a lot of convoluted crap. I'm not sure how to convince them that
>> they need to treat the apartment-can't they just say "Get rid of the dog,
>> then" or "we're not responsible for the health of dogs because dogs aren't
>> generally in our housing units" or "We can't do that; and you're not
>> allowed
>> to hire an exterminator either". Not sure what to do here-any suggestions
>> appreciated. There's a lot more in the discharge papers, so look at those
>> if
>> you are interested.
>> Thanks,
>> Robert Hooper
>> Hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu<mailto:Hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu>
>> The Ohio State University
>> 0653 Buckeye-Cuyahoga CT
>> 653 Cuyahoga Court
>> Columbus, Ohio 43210
>> (740) 856-8195
>>
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>> Message: 13
>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:27:30 -0500
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] EPI
>> Message-ID: <484ce3ee777addb14886f13854a9b95a.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> Hi Marsha.
>> Sorry to hear about Emma's health problem.  Don't beat yourself up about
>> it.  Stuff happens.  Hopefully, the medication will just be giving her a
>> pill.  I've had a lot of experience with the daily pill, and it's no big
>> deal.
>> Good luck.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>>> Hi Folks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I had to take Emma to the vet this morning. For the last 3 to 4 months,
>>> probably longer, Emma has had reoccurring diarrhea. She eats, wants to
>>> eat,
>>> but we will go into periods of the diarrhea, and then fine for a while.
>>> It
>>> affects her work, as she does not feel well. So the doctor thinks she has
>>> EPI, or exocrine pancreatic insufficiency.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have never heard of this personally. Are there other dogs that have
>>> this?
>>> She has lost 11 pounds in the last year and I can't put it back on her.
>>> The
>>> vet was taking her blood and going to send this off to Texas A&M for
>>> testing. But he was 95percent sure that is what she has. Her coat was
>>> being
>>> affected too, as she was always itching.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The vet says it can be treated, and hopefully she will put back on the
>>> weight. I am just not sure where to go from here. I have read up online
>>> about it. She will need to be put on a fiber free diet. And if the vet
>>> does
>>> confirm that she does have it will be medicine for the rest of her life.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I haven't really said much to anyone about all of this, but I have been
>>> planning on retiring Emma at some point in the future. Not because of
>>> this
>>> recent medical stuff, but because my situation has changed. I am
>>> traveling
>>> on Temple campus a lot, and can't hear traffic. My balance is bad. This
>>> is
>>> among other things. I have put an application into a different school for
>>> a
>>> third dog that would help with guiding, balance and that could be trained
>>> for alert, hearing stuff.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I know I need to call Seeing Eye about this recent most medical issue.
>>> But
>>> I
>>> am just so devastated, I feel like I should have been able to prevent
>>> this,
>>> or I could have taken her in earlier. I also feel like Seeing Eye should
>>> have known, but maybe they didn't. I am not by any means bashing them. Or
>>> blaming them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Did any of this make sense? Maybe I am just feeling very alone with Emma
>>> and
>>> her now EPI.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *sigh* so if there are other dogs out there that have EPI, please email
>>> me.
>>> What fiber free foods are good?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Marsha
>>>
>>> Emma, GSD 6 years old.
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 14
>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:00:03 -0700
>> From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bailey Update
>> Message-ID: <auto-000030592862 at fe-2.cluster1.bresnan.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> I'm sorry to hear about Bailey's health issues. I don't know how the
>> university will handle this matter. I hope Bailey recovers soon.
>>
>> Sheila Leigland
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 15
>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:13:42 -0700
>> From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] EPI
>> Message-ID: <auto-000030597221 at fe-2.cluster1.bresnan.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> I've never heard of it either. I hope she gets well soon.
>>
>> Sheila Leigland
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 16
>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:46:06 -0500
>> From: "loriandleo" <loriandleo at ohiohills.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bailey Update
>> Message-ID: <011101ccec25$41f19c00$efdbe504 at o4r3f1>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Hi Robert, Poor Bailey.My Gipp is also allergic to flea bites and my vet
>> recommended that I keep my dog on frontline Plus all year long. Plus my
>> dog
>> also has allot of outdoor allergies and food allergies to the  protein in
>> the leading dog foods. So Gipp  is now eating Natural Balance Duck and
>> Potato formula dog food which as you all probably know is a grain free
>> food. Gipp's also on allergy medication. Good luck with getting down to
>> the
>> root of the problem. Take care.
>>
>> Lori and theGipper
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 17
>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:58:47 -0500
>> From: "loriandleo" <loriandleo at ohiohills.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] EPI
>> Message-ID: <011201ccec25$47abfaa0$efdbe504 at o4r3f1>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Hi Marsha,
>>
>> Oh I'm so sorry to hear about Emma's most recent medical condition.Yes, I
>> have heard of Epi but I haven't experienced it myself with my dogs. I
>> think
>> you should wait for the test results to come back to be sure that Emma in
>> fact does have Epi even though your vet pretty much confirmed it. Then go
>> from there.Good luck with it all and what ever you decide to do. Take
>> care.
>>
>> Lori and theGipper
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 18
>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:03:08 -0700
>> From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog uran getting the shoes Males VS Females
>> Message-ID: <auto-000063415226 at fe-4.cluster1.bresnan.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> My husband had a female golden that would hump other dogs and I had a pet
>> dog when I was a kid that would try to hump your arm.
>>
>> Sheila Leigland
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 19
>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:19:28 -0800
>> From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog uran getting the shoes
>> Message-ID: <047066F4A24E4F7D998D45BCB24246B2 at lindagwizdak>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> 	reply-type=original
>>
>> I have had both males and female guides.  They are very similar.  I
>> usually
>> prefer males simply because they tend to be taller than the females and I
>> need a tall dog.
>>
>> As far as what the schools put out, they seem to be half males and half
>> females from what I've heard.
>>
>> Lyn and Landon
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog uran getting the shoes
>>
>>
>>> I'm pretty sure that the moderator is going to object to these topics.
>>> LOL.
>>>
>>> On Feb 14, 2012, at 4:28 PM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>>
>>>> Perhaps it simply means that men and women are different.
>>>> Just out of curiosity, I wonder what the percentages are of men and
>>>> women
>>>>
>>>> receiving male or female dogs. On a slightly different note, is there a
>>>> difference in pass rate for male vs. female?
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry D. Keeler"
>>>> <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:04 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog uran getting the shoes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> That's a really good point!  I did know one guy who really didn't want
>>>>> a
>>>>>
>>>>> male because he was afraid while cleaning him, he would accidentally
>>>>> touch something!  Well, he is just silly but I do wonder about that.  I
>>>>> also knew a woman at Pilot who didn't want a female.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 1:11 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog uran getting the shoes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just as an interesting aside, I have only ever seen women have a
>>>>>> specific dog gender preference. I'm not sure what that means.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>>>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 14, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is this for real? You wouldn't want a male dog because you might get
>>>>>>> peed on?
>>>>>>> How will you handle children?
>>>>>>> I'm serious, I don't understand the logic here. Can somebody explain?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 8:52 PM
>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog uran getting the shoes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lexia is my first dog. I do not want a male dog for the reasons
>>>>>>> mentioned in
>>>>>>> the email.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>>>>>>> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 5:42 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] dog uran getting the shoes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi, Larry,
>>>>>>>> I experienced that during training myself, the dog uran getting on
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> tennis shoes.
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, I only had one pair of tennis shoes, so couldn't wash
>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>> immediately for I wasn't sure if they'd be dry before the following
>>>>>>>> day of
>>>>>>>> training.
>>>>>>>> It was Freedom David Berry who marked my shoes while he lifted his
>>>>>>>> leg up
>>>>>>>> on one of the metal bars in the relief area at Pilot.
>>>>>>>> Reason for hearing the males go is because their peaing is louder
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> don't sit down all the way.
>>>>>>>> All of my guide have just squated halfway.
>>>>>>>> I did have the practice of parking two female dogs and wasn't able
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hear
>>>>>>>> them pea either because they would sit down on the ground all the
>>>>>>>> way.
>>>>>>>> As for the males doing the number two thing, they would be in the
>>>>>>>> sitting
>>>>>>>> position while going.
>>>>>>>> For the females, the would be sitting halgway toward the ground.
>>>>>>>> As for Orleans and Odie, neither of them marked or peaed on my
>>>>>>>> tennis
>>>>>>>> shoes and I was thankful for that.
>>>>>>>> As for the part of stepping in that gooy stuff, I didn't like that
>>>>>>>> feeling
>>>>>>>> with and withoutt wearing shoes.
>>>>>>>> Just thought I'd share my experiences.
>>>>>>>> I'm curious to hear from others on their experiences of what it was
>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>> for them when having a male or female dog when potty time occured?
>>>>>>>> Bibi, husband Dale and Odie
>>>>>>>> medical alert service dog
>>>>>>>> the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 20
>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:25:13 -0800
>> From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] just when you think you've heard it all
>> Message-ID: <460CA0A99F404EA48696A04F5B72D521 at lindagwizdak>
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>>
>> Sean,
>> I wonder if kids today aren't beeing raised with animals in the home like
>> we
>> were.  We were taught since early childhood that animals were real, living
>> things that needed gentle handling.  To those nasty kids, my answer to
>> their
>> questions about kicking and hurting your dog, I'd ask THEM if I could kick
>> or hurt THEM! LOL!
>>
>> Lyn and Landon
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 5:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] just when you think you've heard it all
>>
>>
>>> Can they hurt your dog? What exactly do they mean by this?
>>>
>>> Maybe I don't want to know.
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>> On Feb 14, 2012, at 6:59 PM, Sean Moore wrote:
>>>
>>>> Never had that happen with Franklin and I run into some weird people in
>>>> my area, but wanting to smell Franklin would be weird.
>>>>
>>>> Now I know of a few kids in my apartment complex who seem to always ask:
>>>> "can I kick your dog?"  a girl about 13 - 16 or something, its just
>>>> weird
>>>>
>>>> and well somewhat scary. Franklin just kind of stares at her and some of
>>>> the other kids who are nuts or ask: Can I hurt your dog?
>>>>
>>>> If this is the future generation, then I'm scared and I'm 24, one of
>>>> though those future generation kids.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yours,
>>>> Sean and Franklin
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Julie J.
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 7:50 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] just when you think you've heard it all
>>>>
>>>> Okay you guys, this one is just crazy!
>>>>
>>>> Today I started teaching a truancy prevention/academic achievement
>>>> curriculum at an after school program for junior high kids.   The kids
>>>> were crazy, so I bribed them with getting to pet the dog if we got
>>>> through the program in time.  Not sure that was a good idea, but I'm not
>>>> used to groups of crazy kids.  Anyway we did get through the lesson and
>>>> had a few minutes to pet the dog.  I laid out the rules...one at a
>>>> time...be gentle...etc.  All was going great.  They were mostly
>>>> following the rules.  They were calming down.  I was answering
>>>> questions, what kind of dog is he, what can he do, does he go everywhere
>>>> with me...all the usual stuff.  Then I was asked this:
>>>>
>>>> Can I smell your dog?
>>>>
>>>> Really, I could not make this up.  Being at a loss for something
>>>> eloquent to reply with, I just spluttered sure.  And the kid then gave
>>>> Monty a good sniff.  I mean like he pressed his entire face to Monty's
>>>> side and inhaled audibly.  He thought Monty smelled nice, fresh and
>>>> clean. This has to be one of the weirdest encounters in all my guide dog
>>>> adventures.
>>>>
>>>> Julie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 21
>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:02:32 -0800
>> From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Food refusal
>> Message-ID: <A48844A393B54483AE26430F165C1012 at lindagwizdak>
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>>
>> I had a shepherd that yelped when corrected.  She did it BECAUSE it was a
>> correction.  I knew this because she has yanked herself alot harder in
>> play
>> and no yelp.
>>
>> If it happened in public, I'd do a real quick correct of whatever type -
>> real fast and next to no undue body motion on my part.  then people would
>> just assume that someone accidently stepped on the dog!  Worked for me!
>> LOL!
>>
>> Lyn and Landon
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Doug Parisian" <eggmann at shaw.ca>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 8:05 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Food refusal
>>
>>
>>> Public attention; I'm nobody's pet monkey and those folks who faint over
>>> a
>>>
>>> little yelp, if it occurs, ain't worth even my excess body gas.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:07 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Food refusal
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well, it works same as the little choking thing I do with my dog does
>>>> when he is hassling other dogs, but I'm not sure I'd do it in a
>>>> restaurant if it is going to get him to yelp. I think I would start by
>>>> using a verbal correction, firmly, and then if you can do the subtle
>>>> thing you did before. We do have a public image we have to keep up, and
>>>> a
>>>>
>>>> dog yelping when you have grabbed it by its skin will get attention that
>>>> you won't want, I think. Labbies accept that without a whimper, but
>>>> GSDs,
>>>>
>>>> at least the ones I've known, are "drama queens."
>>>>
>>>> CL
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 22
>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 23:19:01 +0000 (GMT)
>> From: t21114 at optonline.net
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] EPI
>> Message-ID: <e3f1fb7b2c1c6.4f3c3d65 at optonline.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Hi Marsha,
>> hopefully the medication will help Emma . Today at work I had to run out
>> with Anna as she had diareah. She lets know so I was lucky. I had to leave
>> for an outreach at 11:30 and then I spoke at a school. Anna seemed ok but
>> you never know. while I was speaking in the school she found an eraser on
>> the floor and when I heard her I got it out and asked the teacher what it
>> was.
>> Marilyn and Anna
>>
>>
>>  Hi Folks,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I had to take Emma to the vet this morning. For the last 3 to
>>> 4 months,
>>> > probably longer, Emma has had reoccurring diarrhea. She eats,
>>> wants to
>>> > eat,
>>> > but we will go into periods of the diarrhea, and then fine for
>>> a while. It
>>> > affects her work, as she does not feel well. So the doctor
>>> thinks she has
>>> > EPI, or exocrine pancreatic insufficiency.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I have never heard of this personally. Are there other dogs
>>> that have
>>> > this?
>>> > She has lost 11 pounds in the last year and I can't put it
>>> back on her.
>>> > The
>>> > vet was taking her blood and going to send this off to Texas
>>> A&M for
>>> > testing. But he was 95percent sure that is what she has. Her
>>> coat was
>>> > being
>>> > affected too, as she was always itching.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > The vet says it can be treated, and hopefully she will put
>>> back on the
>>> > weight. I am just not sure where to go from here. I have read
>>> up online
>>> > about it. She will need to be put on a fiber free diet. And if
>>> the vet
>>> > does
>>> > confirm that she does have it will be medicine for the rest of
>>> her life.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I haven't really said much to anyone about all of this, but I
>>> have been
>>> > planning on retiring Emma at some point in the future. Not
>>> because of this
>>> > recent medical stuff, but because my situation has changed. I
>>> am traveling
>>> > on Temple campus a lot, and can't hear traffic. My balance is
>>> bad. This is
>>> > among other things. I have put an application into a different
>>> school for
>>> > a
>>> > third dog that would help with guiding, balance and that could
>>> be trained
>>> > for alert, hearing stuff.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I know I need to call Seeing Eye about this recent most
>>> medical issue. But
>>> > I
>>> > am just so devastated, I feel like I should have been able to
>>> prevent> this,
>>> > or I could have taken her in earlier. I also feel like Seeing
>>> Eye should
>>> > have known, but maybe they didn't. I am not by any means
>>> bashing them. Or
>>> > blaming them.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Did any of this make sense? Maybe I am just feeling very alone
>>> with Emma
>>> > and
>>> > her now EPI.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > *sigh* so if there are other dogs out there that have EPI,
>>> please email
>>> > me.
>>> > What fiber free foods are good?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Thank you,
>>> >
>>> > Marsha
>>> >
>>> > Emma, GSD 6 years old.
>>> >
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 23
>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 22:07:18 -0700
>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
>> Subject: [nagdu] Just When I Thought I'd Seen It All
>> Message-ID: <73E240CCC38945DB9C5D41B4320D5223 at bibi>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Hi, all,
>> If you'd rather not read this, then go ahead and press your delete key to
>> read your other emails.
>> Today was a crazy, annoying day.
>> While my housekeeper was here, one of the front loading washers messed up
>> and she couldn't take anything out of it.
>> So, Dale ended up having to rewash everything.
>> While that was happening and we were in the bedroom as the keeper was
>> finishing up, Odie decided to dirty the floor again by getting sick.
>> What made the whole thing weird is that when I cleanned up his mess, there
>> wasn't exactly food particals, but turned out he was dehydorated from not
>> drinking water.
>> I cleanned up the majority of his mess and Julia, the cleanning lady
>> helpped
>> me get what was left up off the floor.
>> Dale immediately had taken Odie outtside in case he were to get sick some
>> more.
>> When Dale came back up to go check the washing machine which we were
>> using,
>> it wasn't working and we figured out someone intentionally had unplugged
>> it
>> which isn't too bright.
>> Once we got that managed, dale and I went back into the apartment as we
>> both
>> had to go across the hallway to the laundry room anyway.
>> Once back inside our home, Dale took Odie into the bathroom and put in the
>> tub to give him water by hand in case crazy labrador were to get sick
>> again
>> which was what happened.
>> Since Odie was in the tub anyway, everything initially went down the drain
>> after he did get sick again.
>> This had to be done probably for ten minutes or so, hand watering Odie's
>> mouth.
>> Later on this evening, Dale cooked up some rice for him which Odie ate for
>> supper.
>> He's definitely a true, real, human kid and not a dog in his eyes.
>> As for the water thing, dale and I may try to use bottled water or destilt
>> water with Odie to see if he prefers that over the tap water.
>> Odie is definitely a hard headed stubron labrador and always has been from
>> day one.
>> I know i'm hard headed and stubron, but mine and Dale four-legged furry
>> kid
>> displays it more off.
>> regardless, we definitely love him, no matter what.
>> Bibi, husband Dale and Odie
>> medical alert service dog
>> the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 24
>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 22:42:50 -0700
>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bailey Update
>> Message-ID: <E873A76D6E88420FACA2470B6CBB4359 at bibi>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> 	reply-type=original
>>
>> I've used K9 Advantics on Odie as I discovered they did more good than
>> what
>> the Frontline did.
>> The K9 Advantics kept away the fleas and gnats, they also killed off
>> mosquitos and the bed bugs didn't like it either.
>> If anyone is told to get rid of their service dog due to fleas and your
>> dog
>> isn't the source, you do have the option to file a complaint at the ADA
>> web
>> site that is probably under the US Department of Justice.
>> Keep hanging in there Robert H and Bailey as I'll be crossing my fingers
>> for
>> the two of you and keep praying.
>> Bibi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 25
>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 22:48:28 -0700
>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] EPI
>> Message-ID: <3F4C0E338B7C42EDA4ECABBA918A4E37 at bibi>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> 	reply-type=original
>>
>> I've had to deal with a similar problem myself since Odie was born with a
>> damaged trachea caused by a birth defect.
>> I soak up the dry dog food in water so it would be easier for him to
>> swallow
>> and it won't get stuck.
>> If the food gets stuck, he ends up throwing up immediately.
>> Odie also has a sensitive stomach which doesn't make things easier, so he
>> permanently has to take an over the counter acid relief meds.
>> I use an elevated stand where Odie doesn't have to bend down low to eat
>> from
>> the bowls.
>> Marsha, would you be able to try that with Emma probably, using an
>> elevated
>> food stand?
>> *Just curious*
>> Bibi, husband Dale and Odie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 26
>> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 09:12:50 -0500
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nagdu] 15th anniversary
>> Message-ID: <8347a130df1144aa2d48e54bcae487ad.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> Today is the 15th anniversary of Echo and my meeting at GDB San Rafael.
>> She's not the cute, wiggly pup she was then, but she's a lovely girl in a
>> different way now.  I can't say she's going strong, but she still does
>> what she wants to do and she's not ready to go just yet.
>> When we met, she would roll over at any excuse.  I remember waiting in
>> line to go in to the dining room and giving Echo a belly rub.  Her trainer
>> said, when they first started training her, they had to be careful how
>> they praised her, or she'd flop over in the middle of the sidewalk or
>> street!  She had a power tail that wagged all the time.  I used to think
>> it was connected to her heart, and when it stopped, so would she.  But no.
>>  Her back end has gotten weak, so she can't wag like she used to, but she
>> still waves her tail a bit.  It's harder to tell when she's happy than it
>> used to be, but I think she is still happy to be around.
>> So here's to 15 years of Echotude.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 27
>> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:15:05 -0500
>> From: "Bob Hicks" <bob at seeinghandassociation.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] 15th anniversary
>> Message-ID: <610B9E4BC745403C80123986C4854721 at vision04>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> 	reply-type=original
>>
>> Hi Tracy & Echo.  Congratulations to a great team!
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Bob Hicks
>> Access Technology Specialist
>> Seeing Hand Association, Inc.
>> 304-232-4810
>> <bob at seeinghandassociation.com>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 9:12 AM
>> Subject: [nagdu] 15th anniversary
>>
>>
>>> Today is the 15th anniversary of Echo and my meeting at GDB San Rafael.
>>> She's not the cute, wiggly pup she was then, but she's a lovely girl in a
>>> different way now.  I can't say she's going strong, but she still does
>>> what she wants to do and she's not ready to go just yet.
>>> When we met, she would roll over at any excuse.  I remember waiting in
>>> line to go in to the dining room and giving Echo a belly rub.  Her
>>> trainer
>>> said, when they first started training her, they had to be careful how
>>> they praised her, or she'd flop over in the middle of the sidewalk or
>>> street!  She had a power tail that wagged all the time.  I used to think
>>> it was connected to her heart, and when it stopped, so would she.  But
>>> no.
>>> Her back end has gotten weak, so she can't wag like she used to, but she
>>> still waves her tail a bit.  It's harder to tell when she's happy than it
>>> used to be, but I think she is still happy to be around.
>>> So here's to 15 years of Echotude.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
>>>
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