[nagdu] new member
Juanita Herrera
juanita.herrera91 at gmail.com
Sat Feb 18 22:08:29 UTC 2012
Hello MaryAnn,
My name is Juanita, and I live in California. I also just received my
guide dog, Anise, from GDB in Oregon. We hope you enjoy the list.
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> 1. Re: 15th anniversary (Tracy Carcione)
> 2. Canine flu vaccine (Tracy Carcione)
> 3. Re: 15th anniversary (Cindy Ray)
> 4. Reading glasses (Tracy Carcione)
> 5. Re: Returning to List (Julie J.)
> 6. Re: owner training (Julie J.)
> 7. Re: Dog on stage? (Cindy Ray)
> 8. Re: Dog on stage? (Cindy Ray)
> 9. Re: Dog on stage? (Julie McGinnity)
> 10. Re: Dog on stage? (Cindy Ray)
> 11. Using a guide dog in a country setting (RJ Sandefur)
> 12. Re: Using a guide dog in a country setting (Julie J.)
> 13. Re: owner training (Criminal Justice Major)
> 14. Re: 15th anniversary (t21114 at optonline.net)
> 15. Re: Using a guide dog in a country setting (t21114 at optonline.net)
> 16. new member (Mary Ann Sears)
> 17. Re: new member (Hannah Chadwick)
> 18. Re: new member (Lea williams)
> 19. Re: new member (Sheila Leigland)
> 20. Re: new member (loriandleo)
> 21. Re: new member (Mark J. Cadigan)
> 22. Documentation: Code of Federal Regulations (Marion Gwizdala)
> 23. Re: new member (Janice Toothman)
> 24. Re: 15th anniversary (Tracy Carcione)
> 25. Re: Dog on stage? (Tracy Carcione)
> 26. Re: 15th anniversary (Margo and Arrow)
> 27. Re: new member (William Vandervest)
> 28. Re: new member (William Vandervest)
> 29. Re: Documentation: Code of Federal Regulations
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:11:46 -0500
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] 15th anniversary
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> Hi Cindy.
> Nope, Echo retired at about 11 and a half. She was slowing down, and she
> did not really enjoy going new places anymore.
> Now, she totally hates going anywhere beyond a couple blocks around our
> house, even if she goes in a car, so it's great that we found a vet who
> comes to her.
> Now she is having more trouble walking, so we keep her even closer to
> home, just so we don't end up carrying her back. But she is happy to
> sniff around close to home or in the backyard.
> Tracy
>
>
>> Tracy, that is a good long time. I didn't get the chance to read the
>> E-mail. Are you still using Echo? I was thinking not.
>>
>> Cindy Lou
>>
>> On Feb 17, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Tracy Carcione wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Marilyn.
>>> Echo is a black lab, as is Ben. Love those shiny black dogs!
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>> Hi Tracy,
>>>> how special that you and Echo are together 15 years. Thanks for sharing
>>>> your wonderful story about her. What breed is she? My first guide dog
>>>> lived to be 15 .She was a golden. Each of my dogs met there successors.
>>>> Marilyn and Anna
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>> On Behalf
>>>>> Of Tracy Carcione
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 6:13 AM
>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] 15th anniversary
>>>>>
>>>>> Today is the 15th anniversary of Echo and my meeting at GDB San
>>>>> Rafael.
>>>>> She's not the cute, wiggly pup she was then, but she's a lovely
>>>>> girl in a
>>>>> different way now. I can't say she's going strong, but she
>>>>> still does what
>>>>> she wants to do and she's not ready to go just yet.
>>>>> When we met, she would roll over at any excuse. I remember
>>>>> waiting in line
>>>>> to go in to the dining room and giving Echo a belly rub. Her
>>>>> trainer said,
>>>>> when they first started training her, they had to be careful how they
>>>>> praised her, or she'd flop over in the middle of the sidewalk or
>>>>> street!She had a power tail that wagged all the time. I used to
>>>>> think it was
>>>>> connected to her heart, and when it stopped, so would she. But no.
>>>>> Her back end has gotten weak, so she can't wag like she used
>>>>> to, but she
>>>>> still waves her tail a bit. It's harder to tell when she's
>>>>> happy than it
>>>>> used to be, but I think she is still happy to be around.
>>>>> So here's to 15 years of Echotude.
>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>
>>>>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:25:22 -0500
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nagdu] Canine flu vaccine
> Message-ID: <5d9ea36e7b0e9a711f335b3d6b605100.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
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> Ben had his annual checkup yesterday. He's strong and healthy, which
> confirmed my opinion.
> The vet offered to give him a canine flu vaccine, which I declined. The
> vet said dogs are most at risk when they congregate with large groups of
> dogs, like in dog parks, the groomer's, or a kennel (or the dog track).
> Ben doesn't go any of those places, and I want to keep the shots he gets
> down to a minimum.
> I wondered if others had gotten the vaccine for their dogs. I might have,
> if Ben went to the groomer.
>
> I did get him the lepto vaccine, which is kind of a pain, since he has to
> go in for a booster in 3 weeks. But the chances of him coming into
> contact with squirrel urine seem pretty good. At least, there are lots of
> squirrels around here, and Ben's a curious guy. I had assumed that it was
> bundled with the distemper shot, DHLP, but this new vet likes it separate.
> Tracy
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:32:50 -0600
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] 15th anniversary
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> That is quite a feat for a larger dog to make it so long.
>
> Cindy Lou
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:34:58 -0500
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nagdu] Reading glasses
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> The only thing the vet said about Ben was that his eyes are having normal
> aging changes, so that, if he wants to watch TV or read, he'll need
> glasses. Very funny, but not too informative. I asked the vet if it
> would affect Ben's being able to see a car coming, and he said no, but I
> had the distinct impression that he wasn't at all thinking of Ben as a
> working dog and only as a couch potato.
> He did say that a dog with the changes Ben has might not be able to track
> the flight of a ball for long distances anymore.
> Anyway, I know Echo's eyes also showed this kind of change, retrolenticle
> something-or-other, and she never seemed to have trouble seeing well
> enough to do her job.
> Tracy
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:57:01 -0600
> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Returning to List
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> Hey Shanna!
>
> It's been a long time and it's great to have you back! Yes, there are
> several people on this list that are owner trainers. Tami, Rox, Bob,
> Marti, probably a couple I'm forgetting, and me of course. I'm still
> with Monty, who is fully trained now. He's been working full time for
> 2 1/2 years now. When or if you decide to owner train, write me off
> list and I'll see if I can get you in touch with some resources. I'm
> specifically thinking of a couple other email groups and I think I know
> someone in your area who owner trained her last dog who might be willing
> to talk with you.
>
> Welcome back!
> Julie
>
>
> On 2/17/2012 8:53 AM, Shanna Stichler wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> My name is Shanna, and I used to post on this list a few years ago. I
>> stopped doing the listserv thing due to time constraints, but have a bit
>> more time to participate again.
>>
>> Anyway, I?m currently working Nestl?, a female black Labrador trained at
>> GDB?s San Rafael campus. Up until a couple months ago, I worked for that
>> organization in their Training Department, but left in order to further
>> pursue a PHD.
>>
>> My current dog is about to turn 8, so I am beginning the process of
>> planning for her retirement, whenever that may be. I am seriously
>> considering owner-training my next dog, hence the advance preparation. I
>> think there are some owner-trainers on list, so I?m hoping to use this
>> forum as a resource.
>>
>> I look forward to meeting all of you and contributing where I can.
>>
>> Best,
>> Shanna
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:03:46 -0600
> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] owner training
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> Send me a check for $1,500 and I'll hook you up with certification.
>
> Just kidding! Buddy has it correct. Unless you really, really want an
> expensive piece of paper...*smile* Nah, for real there is no legal
> requirement for certification of any variety. The requirement is that
> the person has a disability and the dog has been individually trained
> tasks that mitigate that disability.
>
> Julie
>
> On 2/17/2012 9:41 AM, William Vandervest wrote:
>> just curious, if you train your own dog, how do you get the dog certifyed
>> as a service dog, or do you even need to do so?
>> William And LD Lynard
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:12:09 -0600
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog on stage?
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> I get the impression she's singing. Says soothing about opera in her
> material. Like I said before, my only experience was playing and I tied the
> dog to the organ bench. Well, of course, he comes up for choir, too, and
> often just lies in front of me. My dog liked to move around and people were
> watching her; I don't care as long as they sort of heard the music. I think
> singing could be a little different though as you wouldn't maybe have her
> tied to the bench. If you have a piano accompanist, though, you could tie
> her to the bench. I would experiment with several scenarios and see what
> happens.
> CL
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:14:44 -0600
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog on stage?
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> I think to have someone come get the dog and then to bring it back after the
> performance would be a little over the top. I should think it might be
> better to use a cane under those circumstances and have someone hold the dog
> while you were having the performance. Some folks might find the idea of
> someone removing the dog from the state for them a logical answer though.
> Cindy
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 15:38:40 -0600
> From: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog on stage?
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> Thank you for these suggestions! They're great!
>
> The suggestion of having someone come and get her wbefore I sing would
> work, except that these recitals are divided into groups. I'll sing a
> group of songs, go off stage, sing another long song, go off stage...
> It continues. So it wouldn't work legistically to have someone keep
> bring the dog off stage for me. It would be kind of fun though. Lol
>
> I like the suggestion of putting stuff on stage to block her. That's
> how it is at church. There is so much junk on stage that the audience
> can only see my dog from certain angles. I don't worry about her as
> much at church for this reason. I don't see why I couldn't decorate
> the stage a little. I'll talk to my voice teacher.
>
> Actually, putting a small cushion on the floor next to me for her to
> lay on is my voice teacher's suggestion. I'm hesitant to do this
> because I'm not sure if it would draw more attention to her.
>
> Shannon, I have learned that about stay very recently. Keeping the
> dog calm is very important. I actually want to get into the recital
> hall and practice more often. I wish I could because she does well in
> there when I practice with her.
>
> Unfortunately, I cannot tie her to the piano bench. It is behind
> where I am standing, and it's too small a space for my accompanist and
> dog to be. I wonder if it would be too distracting to tie her to the
> piano behind me? I've never done that before.
>
> The stage I'm performing on is small, and I think this creates some
> problems. I do move around a little bit when I sing, but I don't take
> up the whole stage or even half of it when I move.
>
> My recital is in three weeks--actually, less than three weeks by one
> day! Aaaaaah!
>
> On 2/17/12, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I think to have someone come get the dog and then to bring it back after
>> the
>> performance would be a little over the top. I should think it might be
>> better to use a cane under those circumstances and have someone hold the
>> dog
>> while you were having the performance. Some folks might find the idea of
>> someone removing the dog from the state for them a logical answer though.
>> Cindy
>>
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>
> --
> Julie McG
> Lindbergh High School class of 2009, participating member in Opera
> Theater's Artist in Training Program, and proud graduate of Guiding
> Eyes for the Blind
>
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
> everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
> life."
> John 3:16
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 16:06:51 -0600
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog on stage?
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> Of course if I were doing it, and if the dog will stay still, I'd probably
> just go with taking it onto the stage, do my thing, and more or less forte
> her. I was more comfortable with Jet tied though. I was playing and could
> not have done anything about her; no one "recitaling" could really.
>
> Cindy Lou
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 17:42:28 -0500
> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nagdu] Using a guide dog in a country setting
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> Does any one use a guide dog on this list who lives in a rural community? If
> so, What guide dog school did you attend? My nabiorhood has know sidewalks,
> and I have to be driven into town. My family thinks that guide dogs are only
> for people who live in the city. RJ
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 17:08:08 -0600
> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Using a guide dog in a country setting
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> RJ,
>
> I live in a rural community or at least I'd call it that! My town is
> about 7,000 people. There are sidewalks for most of the places I
> frequently go, though not all. When you say you have to be driven into
> town, do you mean you live on a farm or completely outside of any town?
> How far is this drive? and the roads you will need to walk down that
> have no sidewalks, are these dirt country roads, residential side
> streets, highways or what? That makes a big difference.
>
> As far as I know all of the programs train their guide dogs on
> sidewalkless roads. If that's a need of yours they will make sure the
> dog you receive is adept at that skill. Also if you want a guide dog,
> I'd contact your preferred school to see what they say about a guide and
> your living situation. I'm guessing the school will be able to give you
> much more accurate info than your family.
>
> Julie
>
>
>
> On 2/17/2012 4:42 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>> Does any one use a guide dog on this list who lives in a rural community?
>> If so, What guide dog school did you attend? My nabiorhood has know
>> sidewalks, and I have to be driven into town. My family thinks that guide
>> dogs are only for people who live in the city. RJ
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> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 17:04:25 -0700
> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] owner training
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> Here in the state of Colorado, there's no rules for certification either.
> When I contacted Freedom Services Dogs to looking into having odie be a
> medical alert service dog, they just told me I needed an orange vest that
> can be purchased from Sit Stay, obedience training and Good Canine
> Citizenship test which Odie has already gone through it during his training
> at Pilot.
> During July of 2007 when I did go to a national convention in Minneapolis,
> MN that was hosted by GDUI, Odie was also enrolled to the Good Canine
> Citizenship test which he did pass with flying colors on the first try.
> His certificate hangs on the wall neatly inside of a picture frame.
> Freedom Service Dogs also recommended them providing a statement and having
> mine and Dale medical doctor write up a letter to specify Odie's work.
> I was also told that in order for Odie to be able to be a medical alert
> service dog, he needed to be under control and on his best behavior at all
> times which he does well for the most part.
> Yes, he still has his stubron moments where he just wants to be Odie as
> usual.
> Bibi
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 01:40:24 +0000 (GMT)
> From: t21114 at optonline.net
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] 15th anniversary
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> Hi Tracy,
> My last dog Parker was an English Black lab donated from a breeder in CA
> along with Parkers sister Nuffy a black lab who became a breeder for GDF.
> Do people every think Ben is Echo?
> Marilyn and Anna
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tracy Carcione
> Date: Friday, February 17, 2012 9:43 am
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] 15th anniversary
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>
>> Hi Marilyn.
>> Echo is a black lab, as is Ben. Love those shiny black dogs!
>> Tracy
>>
>> > Hi Tracy,
>> > how special that you and Echo are together 15 years. Thanks
>> for sharing
>> > your wonderful story about her. What breed is she? My first
>> guide dog
>> > lived to be 15 .She was a golden. Each of my dogs met there
>> successors.> Marilyn and Anna
>> >
>> >
>> >> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> >> On Behalf
>> >> Of Tracy Carcione
>> >> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 6:13 AM
>> >> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> >> Subject: [nagdu] 15th anniversary
>> >>
>> >> Today is the 15th anniversary of Echo and my meeting at GDB San
>> >> Rafael.
>> >> She's not the cute, wiggly pup she was then, but she's a lovely
>> >> girl in a
>> >> different way now. I can't say she's going strong, but she
>> >> still does what
>> >> she wants to do and she's not ready to go just yet.
>> >> When we met, she would roll over at any excuse. I remember
>> >> waiting in line
>> >> to go in to the dining room and giving Echo a belly rub. Her
>> >> trainer said,
>> >> when they first started training her, they had to be careful
>> how they
>> >> praised her, or she'd flop over in the middle of the sidewalk or
>> >> street!She had a power tail that wagged all the time. I used to
>> >> think it was
>> >> connected to her heart, and when it stopped, so would she.
>> But no.
>> >> Her back end has gotten weak, so she can't wag like she used
>> >> to, but she
>> >> still waves her tail a bit. It's harder to tell when she's
>> >> happy than it
>> >> used to be, but I think she is still happy to be around.
>> >> So here's to 15 years of Echotude.
>> >> Tracy
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 02:04:22 +0000 (GMT)
> From: t21114 at optonline.net
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Using a guide dog in a country setting
> Message-ID: <e4e2a2d52ffeb.4f3f0726 at optonline.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hi RJ,
> I live in a rural community. No sidewalks except on the parrkway and by the
> schools. All my dogs have been from GDF on Long Island. When we did what
> they called country walks years ago I told the head trainer I needed a boon
> dock walk. We have no curbs here either.
> Have you ever thought of moving to an area where you can walk to places or
> take a bus? I can walk to the train and bus stop. We also have paratransit
> buses. They built shopping centers here , put doctors offices here so its
> built up now but not when I first moved here. Some of the roads were only
> one lane each way and now they are 3 and 4 lanes on each side of the road.
> Marilyn and Anna
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 20:18:45 -0600
> From: "Mary Ann Sears" <maryannsears1972 at gmail.com>
> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nagdu] new member
> Message-ID: <002d01ccede3$ab3c8110$01b58330$@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hello my name is MaryAnn and I am from Louisiana. I have a guide dog name
> gala. I got her from the gdb in Oregon.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 18:46:46 -0800
> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] new member
> Message-ID: <005b01ccede7$8ef87e60$ace97b20$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Welcome to the list Maryann. My nae is Hannah and I just got my first guide
> dog from Pilot dogs. She is a black poodle and very amazing! We live in
> California and we hope you enjoy the list!
> All the best, Hannah and Princess
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Mary Ann Sears
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:19 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nagdu] new member
>
> Hello my name is MaryAnn and I am from Louisiana. I have a guide dog name
> gala. I got her from the gdb in Oregon.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> m
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 22:04:46 -0500
> From: Lea williams <leanicole1988 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] new member
> Message-ID:
> <CAD0KW=Z3a8VQBOX2nqArTYV1WtrZDqac9E0n8+kN=ybUg6_6YA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hey Mary
>
> My name is Lea, pronounced as Lia. I live in North Carolina and I am
> going to guiding eyes for the blind, in New York, this up coming June.
> I am going along with one of my childhood bestfriends and a
> highschool graduate peer named Miranda. We are excited to go.
>
> On 2/17/12, Hannah Chadwick <sparklylicious at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Welcome to the list Maryann. My nae is Hannah and I just got my first
>> guide
>> dog from Pilot dogs. She is a black poodle and very amazing! We live in
>> California and we hope you enjoy the list!
>> All the best, Hannah and Princess
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Mary Ann Sears
>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:19 PM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nagdu] new member
>>
>> Hello my name is MaryAnn and I am from Louisiana. I have a guide dog name
>> gala. I got her from the gdb in Oregon.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> m
>>
>>
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>
>
> --
>
> Lea Williams
>
> Phone;
> 704-732-4470
> Skipe;
> Lea.williams738
> Facebook
> http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100001775297080
> Twitter
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 22:27:44 -0700
> From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] new member
> Message-ID: <auto-000064348786 at fe-4.cluster1.bresnan.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hello welcome to the list. My name is sheila and I'm from montana and I have
> a golden named tres. He is two and from pilot dogs.
>
> Sheila Leigland
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 00:39:48 -0500
> From: "loriandleo" <loriandleo at ohiohills.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] new member
> Message-ID: <011e01ccedff$d66b4760$37dbe504 at o4r3f1>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi Mary Ann,
>
> Welcome to the list. And it's nice to meet you. My name is Lori and I live
> in Ohio with my 2 year old female Chihuahua named Little Girl and with my 6
> year old female Burmese cat named Midnite. I'm currently working with my
> second guide dog from Leader Dogs. He's a 2 year old yellow lab named Gipp.
> Gipp is my 7th dog, but my fourth lab and my second guide dog from
> LeaderDogs. Gipp and I were matched up together on December 1, 2010 at
> LeaderDog for the Blind.
>
> I hope you will enjoy it here and I'm looking forward to reading more from
> you. Take care.
>
> Lori and theGipper
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 00:44:26 -0500
> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] new member
> Message-ID: <130107D19A7E4AED8DB3F34A6BD13C64 at cadiganpc>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Hi, my name is Mark and I have a 2 year old GSD from Fidelco. We were just
> matched up January 2012. He is my first guide dog.
>
>
>
> Hope you enjoy the list.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 08:29:38 -0500
> From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nagdu] Documentation: Code of Federal Regulations
> Message-ID: <3531495D470D4985B2E759EDEC04CD05 at marion27df4b2a>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"
>
> dear All,
> So that everyone understands that what Julie and Buddy have asserted is
> not just their opinions but the legal regulation, here is the excerpt and
> reference on this subject.
>
> "A public entity or public accommodation) shall not require documentation,
> such as proof that the animal has been certified, trained, or licensed as a
> service animal." (28 CFR ? 35.136(f) &
>
> 28 CFR ? 36.302(6))practices, or procedures.
>
>
>
> The entire regulation is attached to this message.
>
>
>
> Fraternally yours,
>
> Marion Gwizdala
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 3:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] owner training
>
>
>> Send me a check for $1,500 and I'll hook you up with certification.
>>
>> Just kidding! Buddy has it correct. Unless you really, really want an
>> expensive piece of paper...*smile* Nah, for real there is no legal
>> requirement for certification of any variety. The requirement is that
>> the person has a disability and the dog has been individually trained
>> tasks that mitigate that disability.
>>
>> Julie
>>
>> On 2/17/2012 9:41 AM, William Vandervest wrote:
>>> just curious, if you train your own dog, how do you get the dog certifyed
>>>
>>> as a service dog, or do you even need to do so?
>>> William And LD Lynard
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 23
> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 08:34:13 -0500
> From: Janice Toothman <janice.toothman at verizon.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] new member
> Message-ID: <4F3FA8D5.1020301 at verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hi MaryAnn,
> Welcome to the list. My name is Janice. I have a golden lab and flat
> coat mix from GDF named Destiny. She is 6 years old. I got her in
> January 2008. I hope you enjoy the list. It can provide wealth of
> information.
> Janice and Destiny
>
> On 2/18/2012 12:44 AM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>> Hi, my name is Mark and I have a 2 year old GSD from Fidelco. We were
>> just matched up January 2012. He is my first guide dog.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope you enjoy the list.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 24
> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 09:06:36 -0500
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] 15th anniversary
> Message-ID: <9dcc988dcfb77f8dc07e0d666fbb6a15.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Hi Marilyn.
> People who know us know Ben is not Echo, but I wouldn't be surprised if
> there are people at work who think I've had the same dog since 1989, since
> I've had black labs since then.
> My first black lab was Amba. Her father was a show champion in
> California, and her mother was a field lab trained to hunt, who was the
> sister to one of the GDB trainer's hunting dog. Which is a long way to
> say that I too have had a donated puppy from California. She was a great
> dog, one of the best I've had.
> Tracy
>
>> Hi Tracy,
>> My last dog Parker was an English Black lab donated from a breeder in CA
>> along with Parkers sister Nuffy a black lab who became a breeder for GDF.
>> Do people every think Ben is Echo?
>> Marilyn and Anna
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 25
> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 09:17:26 -0500
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog on stage?
> Message-ID: <7768a64167978a27d0e315d77ee05c5b.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Hi Julie M.
> Thanks for replying to all the suggestions all at once.
> I think people will notice your dog no matter what, so possibly tossing
> down something for her to lie on wouldn't add that much to their noticing.
> I think Bree would have to be used to lying on it beforehand though, to
> be sure she had the idea to stay on it.
> I would have said you could put your foot on her leash, but, if you're
> moving around, that won't work.
> Good luck! I used to be fine playing for people, but now I get stage
> fright unless I'm in a crowd of other players.
> Tracy
>
>> Thank you for these suggestions! They're great!
>>
>> The suggestion of having someone come and get her wbefore I sing would
>> work, except that these recitals are divided into groups. I'll sing a
>> group of songs, go off stage, sing another long song, go off stage...
>> It continues. So it wouldn't work legistically to have someone keep
>> bring the dog off stage for me. It would be kind of fun though. Lol
>>
>> I like the suggestion of putting stuff on stage to block her. That's
>> how it is at church. There is so much junk on stage that the audience
>> can only see my dog from certain angles. I don't worry about her as
>> much at church for this reason. I don't see why I couldn't decorate
>> the stage a little. I'll talk to my voice teacher.
>>
>> Actually, putting a small cushion on the floor next to me for her to
>> lay on is my voice teacher's suggestion. I'm hesitant to do this
>> because I'm not sure if it would draw more attention to her.
>>
>> Shannon, I have learned that about stay very recently. Keeping the
>> dog calm is very important. I actually want to get into the recital
>> hall and practice more often. I wish I could because she does well in
>> there when I practice with her.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I cannot tie her to the piano bench. It is behind
>> where I am standing, and it's too small a space for my accompanist and
>> dog to be. I wonder if it would be too distracting to tie her to the
>> piano behind me? I've never done that before.
>>
>> The stage I'm performing on is small, and I think this creates some
>> problems. I do move around a little bit when I sing, but I don't take
>> up the whole stage or even half of it when I move.
>>
>> My recital is in three weeks--actually, less than three weeks by one
>> day! Aaaaaah!
>>
>> On 2/17/12, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I think to have someone come get the dog and then to bring it back after
>>> the
>>> performance would be a little over the top. I should think it might be
>>> better to use a cane under those circumstances and have someone hold the
>>> dog
>>> while you were having the performance. Some folks might find the idea of
>>> someone removing the dog from the state for them a logical answer
>>> though.
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Julie McG
>> Lindbergh High School class of 2009, participating member in Opera
>> Theater's Artist in Training Program, and proud graduate of Guiding
>> Eyes for the Blind
>>
>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
>> everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
>> life."
>> John 3:16
>>
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>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 26
> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 10:39:36 -0500
> From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] 15th anniversary
> Message-ID: <E190F5D48BAF4BA2BB5F9D86B633B35A at margoda7a829ca>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> reply-type=original
>
> wow! Oh, yes, I've had folks think I've had the same dog for an eterntiy,
> it seems.
>
> margoa nd Arrow
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] 15th anniversary
>
>
>> Hi Marilyn.
>> People who know us know Ben is not Echo, but I wouldn't be surprised if
>> there are people at work who think I've had the same dog since 1989, since
>> I've had black labs since then.
>> My first black lab was Amba. Her father was a show champion in
>> California, and her mother was a field lab trained to hunt, who was the
>> sister to one of the GDB trainer's hunting dog. Which is a long way to
>> say that I too have had a donated puppy from California. She was a great
>> dog, one of the best I've had.
>> Tracy
>>
>>> Hi Tracy,
>>> My last dog Parker was an English Black lab donated from a breeder in CA
>>> along with Parkers sister Nuffy a black lab who became a breeder for GDF.
>>> Do people every think Ben is Echo?
>>> Marilyn and Anna
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 27
> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 10:58:35 -0500
> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] new member
> Message-ID: <51F9E914DE0B4AF1BDEC51A53E5414FB at Babylon5>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> hi, my name is William, and i am working with my first guide dog named
> Lynard, he is a 2 year old black lab and i brought him home on June 23rd,
> 2011
>
> If Life Hands You A Lemon, Make Lemonaid
> William And LD Lynard
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 28
> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 11:00:18 -0500
> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] new member
> Message-ID: <727EB3370F534FA5975D2C6C2BC588EB at Babylon5>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> oops forgot to tell you, i live in Lansing, Mi
> Take care
>
> If Life Hands You A Lemon, Make Lemonaid
> William And LD Lynard
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 29
> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 11:01:57 -0500
> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Documentation: Code of Federal Regulations
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> thanks for the info :-)
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> If Life Hands You A Lemon, Make Lemonaid
> William And LD Lynard
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