[nagdu] new member
Danielle Antoine
singingmywayin at gmail.com
Sat Feb 18 22:17:08 UTC 2012
Welcome. I too am from Louisiana, and have a retired golden named Eden
from Seeing Eye. Where do you live.Danielle
On 2/18/12, Juanita Herrera <juanita.herrera91 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello MaryAnn,
> My name is Juanita, and I live in California. I also just received my
> guide dog, Anise, from GDB in Oregon. We hope you enjoy the list.
>
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>> 1. Re: 15th anniversary (Tracy Carcione)
>> 2. Canine flu vaccine (Tracy Carcione)
>> 3. Re: 15th anniversary (Cindy Ray)
>> 4. Reading glasses (Tracy Carcione)
>> 5. Re: Returning to List (Julie J.)
>> 6. Re: owner training (Julie J.)
>> 7. Re: Dog on stage? (Cindy Ray)
>> 8. Re: Dog on stage? (Cindy Ray)
>> 9. Re: Dog on stage? (Julie McGinnity)
>> 10. Re: Dog on stage? (Cindy Ray)
>> 11. Using a guide dog in a country setting (RJ Sandefur)
>> 12. Re: Using a guide dog in a country setting (Julie J.)
>> 13. Re: owner training (Criminal Justice Major)
>> 14. Re: 15th anniversary (t21114 at optonline.net)
>> 15. Re: Using a guide dog in a country setting (t21114 at optonline.net)
>> 16. new member (Mary Ann Sears)
>> 17. Re: new member (Hannah Chadwick)
>> 18. Re: new member (Lea williams)
>> 19. Re: new member (Sheila Leigland)
>> 20. Re: new member (loriandleo)
>> 21. Re: new member (Mark J. Cadigan)
>> 22. Documentation: Code of Federal Regulations (Marion Gwizdala)
>> 23. Re: new member (Janice Toothman)
>> 24. Re: 15th anniversary (Tracy Carcione)
>> 25. Re: Dog on stage? (Tracy Carcione)
>> 26. Re: 15th anniversary (Margo and Arrow)
>> 27. Re: new member (William Vandervest)
>> 28. Re: new member (William Vandervest)
>> 29. Re: Documentation: Code of Federal Regulations
>> (William Vandervest)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:11:46 -0500
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] 15th anniversary
>> Message-ID: <42c684e8ef3bb4f391624c40e7628d7d.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
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>> Hi Cindy.
>> Nope, Echo retired at about 11 and a half. She was slowing down, and she
>> did not really enjoy going new places anymore.
>> Now, she totally hates going anywhere beyond a couple blocks around our
>> house, even if she goes in a car, so it's great that we found a vet who
>> comes to her.
>> Now she is having more trouble walking, so we keep her even closer to
>> home, just so we don't end up carrying her back. But she is happy to
>> sniff around close to home or in the backyard.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>>> Tracy, that is a good long time. I didn't get the chance to read the
>>> E-mail. Are you still using Echo? I was thinking not.
>>>
>>> Cindy Lou
>>>
>>> On Feb 17, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Tracy Carcione wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Marilyn.
>>>> Echo is a black lab, as is Ben. Love those shiny black dogs!
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Tracy,
>>>>> how special that you and Echo are together 15 years. Thanks for sharing
>>>>> your wonderful story about her. What breed is she? My first guide dog
>>>>> lived to be 15 .She was a golden. Each of my dogs met there successors.
>>>>> Marilyn and Anna
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>> On Behalf
>>>>>> Of Tracy Carcione
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 6:13 AM
>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] 15th anniversary
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today is the 15th anniversary of Echo and my meeting at GDB San
>>>>>> Rafael.
>>>>>> She's not the cute, wiggly pup she was then, but she's a lovely
>>>>>> girl in a
>>>>>> different way now. I can't say she's going strong, but she
>>>>>> still does what
>>>>>> she wants to do and she's not ready to go just yet.
>>>>>> When we met, she would roll over at any excuse. I remember
>>>>>> waiting in line
>>>>>> to go in to the dining room and giving Echo a belly rub. Her
>>>>>> trainer said,
>>>>>> when they first started training her, they had to be careful how they
>>>>>> praised her, or she'd flop over in the middle of the sidewalk or
>>>>>> street!She had a power tail that wagged all the time. I used to
>>>>>> think it was
>>>>>> connected to her heart, and when it stopped, so would she. But no.
>>>>>> Her back end has gotten weak, so she can't wag like she used
>>>>>> to, but she
>>>>>> still waves her tail a bit. It's harder to tell when she's
>>>>>> happy than it
>>>>>> used to be, but I think she is still happy to be around.
>>>>>> So here's to 15 years of Echotude.
>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:25:22 -0500
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nagdu] Canine flu vaccine
>> Message-ID: <5d9ea36e7b0e9a711f335b3d6b605100.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
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>>
>> Ben had his annual checkup yesterday. He's strong and healthy, which
>> confirmed my opinion.
>> The vet offered to give him a canine flu vaccine, which I declined. The
>> vet said dogs are most at risk when they congregate with large groups of
>> dogs, like in dog parks, the groomer's, or a kennel (or the dog track).
>> Ben doesn't go any of those places, and I want to keep the shots he gets
>> down to a minimum.
>> I wondered if others had gotten the vaccine for their dogs. I might have,
>> if Ben went to the groomer.
>>
>> I did get him the lepto vaccine, which is kind of a pain, since he has to
>> go in for a booster in 3 weeks. But the chances of him coming into
>> contact with squirrel urine seem pretty good. At least, there are lots of
>> squirrels around here, and Ben's a curious guy. I had assumed that it was
>> bundled with the distemper shot, DHLP, but this new vet likes it separate.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:32:50 -0600
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] 15th anniversary
>> Message-ID: <EAB88005-406A-43DF-929C-E3A3652B2814 at gmail.com>
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>> That is quite a feat for a larger dog to make it so long.
>>
>> Cindy Lou
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:34:58 -0500
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nagdu] Reading glasses
>> Message-ID: <46202db266dc259b964fb1a36b09f7dd.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> The only thing the vet said about Ben was that his eyes are having normal
>> aging changes, so that, if he wants to watch TV or read, he'll need
>> glasses. Very funny, but not too informative. I asked the vet if it
>> would affect Ben's being able to see a car coming, and he said no, but I
>> had the distinct impression that he wasn't at all thinking of Ben as a
>> working dog and only as a couch potato.
>> He did say that a dog with the changes Ben has might not be able to track
>> the flight of a ball for long distances anymore.
>> Anyway, I know Echo's eyes also showed this kind of change, retrolenticle
>> something-or-other, and she never seemed to have trouble seeing well
>> enough to do her job.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:57:01 -0600
>> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Returning to List
>> Message-ID: <4F3EB10D.8010801 at neb.rr.com>
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>> Hey Shanna!
>>
>> It's been a long time and it's great to have you back! Yes, there are
>> several people on this list that are owner trainers. Tami, Rox, Bob,
>> Marti, probably a couple I'm forgetting, and me of course. I'm still
>> with Monty, who is fully trained now. He's been working full time for
>> 2 1/2 years now. When or if you decide to owner train, write me off
>> list and I'll see if I can get you in touch with some resources. I'm
>> specifically thinking of a couple other email groups and I think I know
>> someone in your area who owner trained her last dog who might be willing
>> to talk with you.
>>
>> Welcome back!
>> Julie
>>
>>
>> On 2/17/2012 8:53 AM, Shanna Stichler wrote:
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> My name is Shanna, and I used to post on this list a few years ago. I
>>> stopped doing the listserv thing due to time constraints, but have a bit
>>> more time to participate again.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I?m currently working Nestl?, a female black Labrador trained at
>>> GDB?s San Rafael campus. Up until a couple months ago, I worked for that
>>> organization in their Training Department, but left in order to further
>>> pursue a PHD.
>>>
>>> My current dog is about to turn 8, so I am beginning the process of
>>> planning for her retirement, whenever that may be. I am seriously
>>> considering owner-training my next dog, hence the advance preparation. I
>>> think there are some owner-trainers on list, so I?m hoping to use this
>>> forum as a resource.
>>>
>>> I look forward to meeting all of you and contributing where I can.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Shanna
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>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:03:46 -0600
>> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] owner training
>> Message-ID: <4F3EB2A2.4050206 at neb.rr.com>
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>> Send me a check for $1,500 and I'll hook you up with certification.
>>
>> Just kidding! Buddy has it correct. Unless you really, really want an
>> expensive piece of paper...*smile* Nah, for real there is no legal
>> requirement for certification of any variety. The requirement is that
>> the person has a disability and the dog has been individually trained
>> tasks that mitigate that disability.
>>
>> Julie
>>
>> On 2/17/2012 9:41 AM, William Vandervest wrote:
>>> just curious, if you train your own dog, how do you get the dog certifyed
>>> as a service dog, or do you even need to do so?
>>> William And LD Lynard
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>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:12:09 -0600
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog on stage?
>> Message-ID: <028A6933-BEE4-40C3-86B2-E5F8D1DEEEE6 at gmail.com>
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>> I get the impression she's singing. Says soothing about opera in her
>> material. Like I said before, my only experience was playing and I tied
>> the
>> dog to the organ bench. Well, of course, he comes up for choir, too, and
>> often just lies in front of me. My dog liked to move around and people
>> were
>> watching her; I don't care as long as they sort of heard the music. I
>> think
>> singing could be a little different though as you wouldn't maybe have her
>> tied to the bench. If you have a piano accompanist, though, you could tie
>> her to the bench. I would experiment with several scenarios and see what
>> happens.
>> CL
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:14:44 -0600
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog on stage?
>> Message-ID: <F3C0A0A7-A06E-41FC-A681-D5B84F9F40E4 at gmail.com>
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>> I think to have someone come get the dog and then to bring it back after
>> the
>> performance would be a little over the top. I should think it might be
>> better to use a cane under those circumstances and have someone hold the
>> dog
>> while you were having the performance. Some folks might find the idea of
>> someone removing the dog from the state for them a logical answer though.
>> Cindy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 15:38:40 -0600
>> From: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog on stage?
>> Message-ID:
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>> Thank you for these suggestions! They're great!
>>
>> The suggestion of having someone come and get her wbefore I sing would
>> work, except that these recitals are divided into groups. I'll sing a
>> group of songs, go off stage, sing another long song, go off stage...
>> It continues. So it wouldn't work legistically to have someone keep
>> bring the dog off stage for me. It would be kind of fun though. Lol
>>
>> I like the suggestion of putting stuff on stage to block her. That's
>> how it is at church. There is so much junk on stage that the audience
>> can only see my dog from certain angles. I don't worry about her as
>> much at church for this reason. I don't see why I couldn't decorate
>> the stage a little. I'll talk to my voice teacher.
>>
>> Actually, putting a small cushion on the floor next to me for her to
>> lay on is my voice teacher's suggestion. I'm hesitant to do this
>> because I'm not sure if it would draw more attention to her.
>>
>> Shannon, I have learned that about stay very recently. Keeping the
>> dog calm is very important. I actually want to get into the recital
>> hall and practice more often. I wish I could because she does well in
>> there when I practice with her.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I cannot tie her to the piano bench. It is behind
>> where I am standing, and it's too small a space for my accompanist and
>> dog to be. I wonder if it would be too distracting to tie her to the
>> piano behind me? I've never done that before.
>>
>> The stage I'm performing on is small, and I think this creates some
>> problems. I do move around a little bit when I sing, but I don't take
>> up the whole stage or even half of it when I move.
>>
>> My recital is in three weeks--actually, less than three weeks by one
>> day! Aaaaaah!
>>
>> On 2/17/12, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I think to have someone come get the dog and then to bring it back after
>>> the
>>> performance would be a little over the top. I should think it might be
>>> better to use a cane under those circumstances and have someone hold the
>>> dog
>>> while you were having the performance. Some folks might find the idea of
>>> someone removing the dog from the state for them a logical answer though.
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Julie McG
>> Lindbergh High School class of 2009, participating member in Opera
>> Theater's Artist in Training Program, and proud graduate of Guiding
>> Eyes for the Blind
>>
>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
>> everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
>> life."
>> John 3:16
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 16:06:51 -0600
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog on stage?
>> Message-ID: <CE058840-789A-45D7-B77D-71F5BA587BE0 at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Of course if I were doing it, and if the dog will stay still, I'd probably
>> just go with taking it onto the stage, do my thing, and more or less forte
>> her. I was more comfortable with Jet tied though. I was playing and could
>> not have done anything about her; no one "recitaling" could really.
>>
>> Cindy Lou
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 17:42:28 -0500
>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [nagdu] Using a guide dog in a country setting
>> Message-ID: <A0604133E04149868714ABAF6F3E162F at hometwxakonvzn>
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>>
>> Does any one use a guide dog on this list who lives in a rural community?
>> If
>> so, What guide dog school did you attend? My nabiorhood has know
>> sidewalks,
>> and I have to be driven into town. My family thinks that guide dogs are
>> only
>> for people who live in the city. RJ
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 12
>> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 17:08:08 -0600
>> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Using a guide dog in a country setting
>> Message-ID: <4F3EDDD8.3000407 at neb.rr.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> RJ,
>>
>> I live in a rural community or at least I'd call it that! My town is
>> about 7,000 people. There are sidewalks for most of the places I
>> frequently go, though not all. When you say you have to be driven into
>> town, do you mean you live on a farm or completely outside of any town?
>> How far is this drive? and the roads you will need to walk down that
>> have no sidewalks, are these dirt country roads, residential side
>> streets, highways or what? That makes a big difference.
>>
>> As far as I know all of the programs train their guide dogs on
>> sidewalkless roads. If that's a need of yours they will make sure the
>> dog you receive is adept at that skill. Also if you want a guide dog,
>> I'd contact your preferred school to see what they say about a guide and
>> your living situation. I'm guessing the school will be able to give you
>> much more accurate info than your family.
>>
>> Julie
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/17/2012 4:42 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>> Does any one use a guide dog on this list who lives in a rural community?
>>> If so, What guide dog school did you attend? My nabiorhood has know
>>> sidewalks, and I have to be driven into town. My family thinks that guide
>>> dogs are only for people who live in the city. RJ
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>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 13
>> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 17:04:25 -0700
>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] owner training
>> Message-ID: <226FCBF4202D448287A53800636B8BB2 at bibi>
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>>
>> Here in the state of Colorado, there's no rules for certification either.
>> When I contacted Freedom Services Dogs to looking into having odie be a
>> medical alert service dog, they just told me I needed an orange vest that
>> can be purchased from Sit Stay, obedience training and Good Canine
>> Citizenship test which Odie has already gone through it during his
>> training
>> at Pilot.
>> During July of 2007 when I did go to a national convention in Minneapolis,
>> MN that was hosted by GDUI, Odie was also enrolled to the Good Canine
>> Citizenship test which he did pass with flying colors on the first try.
>> His certificate hangs on the wall neatly inside of a picture frame.
>> Freedom Service Dogs also recommended them providing a statement and
>> having
>> mine and Dale medical doctor write up a letter to specify Odie's work.
>> I was also told that in order for Odie to be able to be a medical alert
>> service dog, he needed to be under control and on his best behavior at all
>> times which he does well for the most part.
>> Yes, he still has his stubron moments where he just wants to be Odie as
>> usual.
>> Bibi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 14
>> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 01:40:24 +0000 (GMT)
>> From: t21114 at optonline.net
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] 15th anniversary
>> Message-ID: <e49be6242a538.4f3f0188 at optonline.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Hi Tracy,
>> My last dog Parker was an English Black lab donated from a breeder in CA
>> along with Parkers sister Nuffy a black lab who became a breeder for GDF.
>> Do people every think Ben is Echo?
>> Marilyn and Anna
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Tracy Carcione
>> Date: Friday, February 17, 2012 9:43 am
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] 15th anniversary
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>
>>> Hi Marilyn.
>>> Echo is a black lab, as is Ben. Love those shiny black dogs!
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>> > Hi Tracy,
>>> > how special that you and Echo are together 15 years. Thanks
>>> for sharing
>>> > your wonderful story about her. What breed is she? My first
>>> guide dog
>>> > lived to be 15 .She was a golden. Each of my dogs met there
>>> successors.> Marilyn and Anna
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> >> On Behalf
>>> >> Of Tracy Carcione
>>> >> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 6:13 AM
>>> >> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> >> Subject: [nagdu] 15th anniversary
>>> >>
>>> >> Today is the 15th anniversary of Echo and my meeting at GDB San
>>> >> Rafael.
>>> >> She's not the cute, wiggly pup she was then, but she's a lovely
>>> >> girl in a
>>> >> different way now. I can't say she's going strong, but she
>>> >> still does what
>>> >> she wants to do and she's not ready to go just yet.
>>> >> When we met, she would roll over at any excuse. I remember
>>> >> waiting in line
>>> >> to go in to the dining room and giving Echo a belly rub. Her
>>> >> trainer said,
>>> >> when they first started training her, they had to be careful
>>> how they
>>> >> praised her, or she'd flop over in the middle of the sidewalk or
>>> >> street!She had a power tail that wagged all the time. I used to
>>> >> think it was
>>> >> connected to her heart, and when it stopped, so would she.
>>> But no.
>>> >> Her back end has gotten weak, so she can't wag like she used
>>> >> to, but she
>>> >> still waves her tail a bit. It's harder to tell when she's
>>> >> happy than it
>>> >> used to be, but I think she is still happy to be around.
>>> >> So here's to 15 years of Echotude.
>>> >> Tracy
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
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>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 15
>> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 02:04:22 +0000 (GMT)
>> From: t21114 at optonline.net
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Using a guide dog in a country setting
>> Message-ID: <e4e2a2d52ffeb.4f3f0726 at optonline.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Hi RJ,
>> I live in a rural community. No sidewalks except on the parrkway and by
>> the
>> schools. All my dogs have been from GDF on Long Island. When we did what
>> they called country walks years ago I told the head trainer I needed a
>> boon
>> dock walk. We have no curbs here either.
>> Have you ever thought of moving to an area where you can walk to places or
>> take a bus? I can walk to the train and bus stop. We also have paratransit
>> buses. They built shopping centers here , put doctors offices here so its
>> built up now but not when I first moved here. Some of the roads were only
>> one lane each way and now they are 3 and 4 lanes on each side of the road.
>> Marilyn and Anna
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 16
>> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 20:18:45 -0600
>> From: "Mary Ann Sears" <maryannsears1972 at gmail.com>
>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [nagdu] new member
>> Message-ID: <002d01ccede3$ab3c8110$01b58330$@com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Hello my name is MaryAnn and I am from Louisiana. I have a guide dog name
>> gala. I got her from the gdb in Oregon.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 17
>> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 18:46:46 -0800
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] new member
>> Message-ID: <005b01ccede7$8ef87e60$ace97b20$@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Welcome to the list Maryann. My nae is Hannah and I just got my first
>> guide
>> dog from Pilot dogs. She is a black poodle and very amazing! We live in
>> California and we hope you enjoy the list!
>> All the best, Hannah and Princess
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Mary Ann Sears
>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:19 PM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nagdu] new member
>>
>> Hello my name is MaryAnn and I am from Louisiana. I have a guide dog name
>> gala. I got her from the gdb in Oregon.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> m
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 18
>> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 22:04:46 -0500
>> From: Lea williams <leanicole1988 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] new member
>> Message-ID:
>> <CAD0KW=Z3a8VQBOX2nqArTYV1WtrZDqac9E0n8+kN=ybUg6_6YA at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> Hey Mary
>>
>> My name is Lea, pronounced as Lia. I live in North Carolina and I am
>> going to guiding eyes for the blind, in New York, this up coming June.
>> I am going along with one of my childhood bestfriends and a
>> highschool graduate peer named Miranda. We are excited to go.
>>
>> On 2/17/12, Hannah Chadwick <sparklylicious at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Welcome to the list Maryann. My nae is Hannah and I just got my first
>>> guide
>>> dog from Pilot dogs. She is a black poodle and very amazing! We live in
>>> California and we hope you enjoy the list!
>>> All the best, Hannah and Princess
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Mary Ann Sears
>>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:19 PM
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [nagdu] new member
>>>
>>> Hello my name is MaryAnn and I am from Louisiana. I have a guide dog name
>>> gala. I got her from the gdb in Oregon.
>>>
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>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Lea Williams
>>
>> Phone;
>> 704-732-4470
>> Skipe;
>> Lea.williams738
>> Facebook
>> http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100001775297080
>> Twitter
>> http://twitter.com/LeaNicole1988
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 19
>> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 22:27:44 -0700
>> From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] new member
>> Message-ID: <auto-000064348786 at fe-4.cluster1.bresnan.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Hello welcome to the list. My name is sheila and I'm from montana and I
>> have
>> a golden named tres. He is two and from pilot dogs.
>>
>> Sheila Leigland
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 20
>> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 00:39:48 -0500
>> From: "loriandleo" <loriandleo at ohiohills.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] new member
>> Message-ID: <011e01ccedff$d66b4760$37dbe504 at o4r3f1>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Hi Mary Ann,
>>
>> Welcome to the list. And it's nice to meet you. My name is Lori and I live
>> in Ohio with my 2 year old female Chihuahua named Little Girl and with my
>> 6
>> year old female Burmese cat named Midnite. I'm currently working with my
>> second guide dog from Leader Dogs. He's a 2 year old yellow lab named
>> Gipp.
>> Gipp is my 7th dog, but my fourth lab and my second guide dog from
>> LeaderDogs. Gipp and I were matched up together on December 1, 2010 at
>> LeaderDog for the Blind.
>>
>> I hope you will enjoy it here and I'm looking forward to reading more from
>> you. Take care.
>>
>> Lori and theGipper
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 21
>> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 00:44:26 -0500
>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] new member
>> Message-ID: <130107D19A7E4AED8DB3F34A6BD13C64 at cadiganpc>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> Hi, my name is Mark and I have a 2 year old GSD from Fidelco. We were just
>> matched up January 2012. He is my first guide dog.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope you enjoy the list.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 22
>> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 08:29:38 -0500
>> From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [nagdu] Documentation: Code of Federal Regulations
>> Message-ID: <3531495D470D4985B2E759EDEC04CD05 at marion27df4b2a>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"
>>
>> dear All,
>> So that everyone understands that what Julie and Buddy have asserted
>> is
>> not just their opinions but the legal regulation, here is the excerpt and
>> reference on this subject.
>>
>> "A public entity or public accommodation) shall not require documentation,
>> such as proof that the animal has been certified, trained, or licensed as
>> a
>> service animal." (28 CFR ? 35.136(f) &
>>
>> 28 CFR ? 36.302(6))practices, or procedures.
>>
>>
>>
>> The entire regulation is attached to this message.
>>
>>
>>
>> Fraternally yours,
>>
>> Marion Gwizdala
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 3:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] owner training
>>
>>
>>> Send me a check for $1,500 and I'll hook you up with certification.
>>>
>>> Just kidding! Buddy has it correct. Unless you really, really want an
>>> expensive piece of paper...*smile* Nah, for real there is no legal
>>> requirement for certification of any variety. The requirement is that
>>> the person has a disability and the dog has been individually trained
>>> tasks that mitigate that disability.
>>>
>>> Julie
>>>
>>> On 2/17/2012 9:41 AM, William Vandervest wrote:
>>>> just curious, if you train your own dog, how do you get the dog
>>>> certifyed
>>>>
>>>> as a service dog, or do you even need to do so?
>>>> William And LD Lynard
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 23
>> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 08:34:13 -0500
>> From: Janice Toothman <janice.toothman at verizon.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] new member
>> Message-ID: <4F3FA8D5.1020301 at verizon.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> Hi MaryAnn,
>> Welcome to the list. My name is Janice. I have a golden lab and flat
>> coat mix from GDF named Destiny. She is 6 years old. I got her in
>> January 2008. I hope you enjoy the list. It can provide wealth of
>> information.
>> Janice and Destiny
>>
>> On 2/18/2012 12:44 AM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>> Hi, my name is Mark and I have a 2 year old GSD from Fidelco. We were
>>> just matched up January 2012. He is my first guide dog.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope you enjoy the list.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 24
>> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 09:06:36 -0500
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] 15th anniversary
>> Message-ID: <9dcc988dcfb77f8dc07e0d666fbb6a15.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> Hi Marilyn.
>> People who know us know Ben is not Echo, but I wouldn't be surprised if
>> there are people at work who think I've had the same dog since 1989, since
>> I've had black labs since then.
>> My first black lab was Amba. Her father was a show champion in
>> California, and her mother was a field lab trained to hunt, who was the
>> sister to one of the GDB trainer's hunting dog. Which is a long way to
>> say that I too have had a donated puppy from California. She was a great
>> dog, one of the best I've had.
>> Tracy
>>
>>> Hi Tracy,
>>> My last dog Parker was an English Black lab donated from a breeder in CA
>>> along with Parkers sister Nuffy a black lab who became a breeder for GDF.
>>> Do people every think Ben is Echo?
>>> Marilyn and Anna
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 25
>> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 09:17:26 -0500
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog on stage?
>> Message-ID: <7768a64167978a27d0e315d77ee05c5b.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> Hi Julie M.
>> Thanks for replying to all the suggestions all at once.
>> I think people will notice your dog no matter what, so possibly tossing
>> down something for her to lie on wouldn't add that much to their noticing.
>> I think Bree would have to be used to lying on it beforehand though, to
>> be sure she had the idea to stay on it.
>> I would have said you could put your foot on her leash, but, if you're
>> moving around, that won't work.
>> Good luck! I used to be fine playing for people, but now I get stage
>> fright unless I'm in a crowd of other players.
>> Tracy
>>
>>> Thank you for these suggestions! They're great!
>>>
>>> The suggestion of having someone come and get her wbefore I sing would
>>> work, except that these recitals are divided into groups. I'll sing a
>>> group of songs, go off stage, sing another long song, go off stage...
>>> It continues. So it wouldn't work legistically to have someone keep
>>> bring the dog off stage for me. It would be kind of fun though. Lol
>>>
>>> I like the suggestion of putting stuff on stage to block her. That's
>>> how it is at church. There is so much junk on stage that the audience
>>> can only see my dog from certain angles. I don't worry about her as
>>> much at church for this reason. I don't see why I couldn't decorate
>>> the stage a little. I'll talk to my voice teacher.
>>>
>>> Actually, putting a small cushion on the floor next to me for her to
>>> lay on is my voice teacher's suggestion. I'm hesitant to do this
>>> because I'm not sure if it would draw more attention to her.
>>>
>>> Shannon, I have learned that about stay very recently. Keeping the
>>> dog calm is very important. I actually want to get into the recital
>>> hall and practice more often. I wish I could because she does well in
>>> there when I practice with her.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, I cannot tie her to the piano bench. It is behind
>>> where I am standing, and it's too small a space for my accompanist and
>>> dog to be. I wonder if it would be too distracting to tie her to the
>>> piano behind me? I've never done that before.
>>>
>>> The stage I'm performing on is small, and I think this creates some
>>> problems. I do move around a little bit when I sing, but I don't take
>>> up the whole stage or even half of it when I move.
>>>
>>> My recital is in three weeks--actually, less than three weeks by one
>>> day! Aaaaaah!
>>>
>>> On 2/17/12, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I think to have someone come get the dog and then to bring it back after
>>>> the
>>>> performance would be a little over the top. I should think it might be
>>>> better to use a cane under those circumstances and have someone hold the
>>>> dog
>>>> while you were having the performance. Some folks might find the idea of
>>>> someone removing the dog from the state for them a logical answer
>>>> though.
>>>> Cindy
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Julie McG
>>> Lindbergh High School class of 2009, participating member in Opera
>>> Theater's Artist in Training Program, and proud graduate of Guiding
>>> Eyes for the Blind
>>>
>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
>>> everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
>>> life."
>>> John 3:16
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 26
>> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 10:39:36 -0500
>> From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] 15th anniversary
>> Message-ID: <E190F5D48BAF4BA2BB5F9D86B633B35A at margoda7a829ca>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> wow! Oh, yes, I've had folks think I've had the same dog for an eterntiy,
>> it seems.
>>
>> margoa nd Arrow
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:06 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] 15th anniversary
>>
>>
>>> Hi Marilyn.
>>> People who know us know Ben is not Echo, but I wouldn't be surprised if
>>> there are people at work who think I've had the same dog since 1989,
>>> since
>>> I've had black labs since then.
>>> My first black lab was Amba. Her father was a show champion in
>>> California, and her mother was a field lab trained to hunt, who was the
>>> sister to one of the GDB trainer's hunting dog. Which is a long way to
>>> say that I too have had a donated puppy from California. She was a great
>>> dog, one of the best I've had.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>> Hi Tracy,
>>>> My last dog Parker was an English Black lab donated from a breeder in CA
>>>> along with Parkers sister Nuffy a black lab who became a breeder for
>>>> GDF.
>>>> Do people every think Ben is Echo?
>>>> Marilyn and Anna
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 27
>> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 10:58:35 -0500
>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] new member
>> Message-ID: <51F9E914DE0B4AF1BDEC51A53E5414FB at Babylon5>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> hi, my name is William, and i am working with my first guide dog named
>> Lynard, he is a 2 year old black lab and i brought him home on June 23rd,
>> 2011
>>
>> If Life Hands You A Lemon, Make Lemonaid
>> William And LD Lynard
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 28
>> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 11:00:18 -0500
>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] new member
>> Message-ID: <727EB3370F534FA5975D2C6C2BC588EB at Babylon5>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> oops forgot to tell you, i live in Lansing, Mi
>> Take care
>>
>> If Life Hands You A Lemon, Make Lemonaid
>> William And LD Lynard
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 29
>> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 11:01:57 -0500
>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Documentation: Code of Federal Regulations
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>> thanks for the info :-)
>>
>> If Life Hands You A Lemon, Make Lemonaid
>> William And LD Lynard
>>
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