[nagdu] New Guide Dog Usser
Natalie
nrorrell at qwest.net
Tue Feb 21 23:55:33 UTC 2012
Hi Juanita and Anise,
If no one has answered yet, as I'm behind on e-mail, Handiworks has an
awesome sign. I have one, and most people have respected it. It's a
fluorescent yellow with big letters. HTH.
Best,
Nat and Liam Joshua
----- Original Message -----
From: "Juanita Herrera" <juanita.herrera91 at gmail.com>
To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] New Guide Dog Usser
> Thank you all who have welcomed me to the list. Anise and I seem to be
> doing well. I just wasn't too sure if her looking around was something
> normal or not. Also, does anyone know where I could purchase the "Do
> Not Pet Me" signs. I desperately need one. Once again thank you all.
> Best Regards,
> Juanita And Anise
>
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>> 1. Re: New Guide Dog User (loriandleo)
>> 2. Re: New Guide Dog User (Sheila Leigland)
>> 3. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Hannah Chadwick)
>> 4. (no subject) (Sarah Williams)
>> 5. Re: * important* was (no subject) (Julie J.)
>> 6. The Room (Cindy Ray)
>> 7. Re: New Guide Dog User (Marsha Drenth)
>> 8. Re: The Room (Tracy Carcione)
>> 9. Re: dog food and Re: flying, changes, and vet visit
>> (Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC))
>> 10. Re: dog food and Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Cindy Ray)
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:19:55 -0500
>> From: "loriandleo" <loriandleo at ohiohills.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] New Guide Dog User
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>> Hi Mathew,
>>
>> It's good to see you here. Also good luck with applyinga to Pilot Dogs.
>> How
>> do you like living in Columbus? Take care.
>>
>> Lori and the Gipper
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:57:07 -0700
>> From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] New Guide Dog User
>> Message-ID: <auto-000028135245 at fe-2.cluster1.bresnan.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Hi welcome to the list. I'm working with my second dog Tres a golden
>> retriever. He is almost 30 or two and a half years old and is crazy about
>> people. My first dog was a black lab and was very calm an obedient. My
>> second dog has taken more work but it is worth the effort. He's doing
>> better
>> all the time.
>>
>> sheila leigland
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:07:36 -0800
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>> Message-ID: <000d01cce627$f4980be0$ddc823a0$@suddenlink.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Thank you Nat! she is doing much better now that she's on the food the
>> vet
>> recommended.
>> Cheers, Hannah
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Natalie
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 5:58 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>
>> Hi Hannah,
>> I'm sorry to hear Ms. Princess isn't feeling too well, but I'm glad you
>> had
>> a safe flight back. I would do what your vet suggests. It may just be
>> the
>> changes of the new environment causing her to not feel well. I'll keep
>> you
>> guys in my thoughts and prayers and send her a wag from my best dog, no
>> jest
>> dog. Keep us posted, and if there's anything we can do, please don't
>> hesitate to let us know.
>> Best,
>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 4:30 PM
>> Subject: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> Flying back to California with Princess was easy; she did a fantastic
>>> job,
>>> and you would have thought she's done that all her life *smile*.
>>> Since we got back, Princess hasn't been eating much and I believe it's
>>> due
>>> to all the changes - time difference, new environment, etc. I gave her a
>>> couple of saltine crackers because my trainer asked me not to feed her
>>> the
>>> night prior to coming home, but she threw up on Friday night when we got
>>> back. I went to Petco on Saturday to get her milk bone treats and gave
>>> her
>>
>>> a
>>> couple on that day because we had been super busy and she did well
>>> despite
>>> all the changes. However, on Saturday night she started having very soft
>>> stool and by yesterday, she was having diarrhea. I took her to the vet
>>> this
>>> morning because I got very worried.
>>> The vet said everything's ok, and that I should put her on white rice
>>> and
>>> boiled chicken mixed with low-fat cottage cheese for a few days because
>>> it
>>> will help her stool go back to normal. I feel a little hesitant about
>>> this
>>> because my trainers mentioned again and again that we shouldn't feed
>>> them
>>> anything besides the food they are used to having. What do you all
>>> think?
>>> Should I go ahead and give her rice with boiled chicken and cottage
>>> cheese
>>> or should I keep her on science diet (which is the food they have been
>>> eating)? I would love to hear feedback!
>>> Cheers, Hannah
>>>
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>> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 04:25:22 -0800 (PST)
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>> Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 07:15:25 -0600
>> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 08:23:05 -0600
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [nagdu] The Room
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>> Yesterday was the first time I was subjected to the United Airlines
>> warehouse for people with disabilities in Chicago. It was humiliating to
>> say
>> the least.
>>
>> So, I have a question for you. If your plane departure changes gates, do
>> they flash it on a screen only or do they say it. Last time I was in
>> Chicago, I went to my gate alone, but if there hadn't been a guy going to
>> Des Moines on the same flight, I wouldn't have known they changed gates.
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 10:03:26 -0500
>> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] New Guide Dog User
>> Message-ID: <976276075F6D41DF82BE10BC37B3D683 at Cptr233>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Juanita,
>>
>> Welcome to the list. I am Marsha, one of the moderators of the list. If
>> you
>> need anything please ask. A little about me, I'm working my second guide
>> from Seeing Eye. Emma is a GSD who just turned 6 years old. We live in
>> PA,
>> just outside of Philadelphia. I am a full time student at Temple
>> University.
>>
>>
>> Hope you like the list, it can be very busy but very slow too.
>>
>> Marsha
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Juanita Herrera
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 10:40 AM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nagdu] New Guide Dog User
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>> My name is Juanita and I received my first guide dog a month ago from
>> Guide Dogs For The Blind at the Oregon Campus. My guide dog's name is
>> Anise and she is a black lab. She is very calm, but can have her
>> random outbursts of energy. She is only 20 months old, and when we go
>> places she loves to look at people. She gets distracted easily by just
>> looking around. Is that normal due to her age? Also, how long does it
>> take until a guide dog team feel completely in sink with each other?
>> Hope some of you pro guide dog users can help. *smile*
>> Best,
>> Juanita and Anise
>>
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>>> 1. Re: Update (Marsha Drenth)
>>> 2. Re: Update (Cindy Ray)
>>> 3. Re: Update (Larry D. Keeler)
>>> 4. Getting a guide dog (RJ Sandefur)
>>> 5. Re: Getting a guide dog (Cindy Ray)
>>> 6. Re: Getting a guide dog (Tami Kinney)
>>> 7. Re: Getting a guide dog (Margo and Arrow)
>>> 8. Re: Getting a guide dog (Hannah Chadwick)
>>> 9. Re: Getting a guide dog (Sheila Leigland)
>>> 10. flying, changes, and vet visit (Hannah Chadwick)
>>> 11. Re: Getting a guide dog (RJ Sandefur)
>>> 12. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Jessica Pitzer)
>>> 13. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Sheila Leigland)
>>> 14. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Cindy Ray)
>>> 15. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Hannah Chadwick)
>>> 16. Re: Getting a guide dog (William Vandervest)
>>> 17. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (William Vandervest)
>>> 18. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Cindy Ray)
>>> 19. Re: Getting a guide dog (Larry D. Keeler)
>>> 20. Re: Update (Jessica)
>>> 21. Re: Getting a guide dog (Larry D. Keeler)
>>> 22. Re: Getting a guide dog (Larry D. Keeler)
>>> 23. Re: Getting a guide dog (Larry D. Keeler)
>>> 24. Re: Getting a guide dog (Jessica)
>>> 25. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Larry D. Keeler)
>>> 26. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Hannah Chadwick)
>>> 27. Re: Getting a guide dog (Larry D. Keeler)
>>> 28. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Larry D. Keeler)
>>> 29. Re: Getting a guide dog (Larry D. Keeler)
>>> 30. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Hannah Chadwick)
>>> 31. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Larry D. Keeler)
>>> 32. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Hannah Chadwick)
>>> 33. Re: Getting a guide dog (RJ Sandefur)
>>> 34. Re: Getting a guide dog (Julie J.)
>>> 35. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (loriandleo)
>>> 36. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (t21114 at optonline.net)
>>> 37. Re: Getting a guide dog (William Vandervest)
>>> 38. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (William Vandervest)
>>> 39. Re: Getting a guide dog (William Vandervest)
>>> 40. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (William Vandervest)
>>> 41. Re: Getting a guide dog (RJ Sandefur)
>>> 42. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Larry D. Keeler)
>>> 43. Re: Getting a guide dog (Larry D. Keeler)
>>> 44. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Larry D. Keeler)
>>> 45. Re: Getting a guide dog (Larry D. Keeler)
>>> 46. Re: Getting a guide dog (William Vandervest)
>>> 47. Re: Getting a guide dog (William Vandervest)
>>> 48. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Criminal Justice Major)
>>> 49. My Adventure and Odie's new bone (Criminal Justice Major)
>>> 50. Re: Update (Cindy Ray)
>>> 51. Re: Getting a guide dog (Cindy Ray)
>>> 52. Re: Getting a guide dog (Cindy Ray)
>>> 53. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Hannah Chadwick)
>>> 54. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Hannah Chadwick)
>>>
>>>
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 14:02:18 -0500
>>> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update
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>>> Hi Jessica,
>>>
>>> Thank you for the update. Congrats on the upcoming wedding. Since both
>>> of
>>> you have guides, will you all be having the wedding with your pups
>> involved?
>>> More curious, sorry if its too personal. I am assuming your going to be
>>> moving to D.C., well welcome to the northeast!
>>>
>>> I am Marsha, working my 6 yo GSD from Seeing Eye. Emma and I, live in
>>> PA,
>> in
>>> the greater Philadelphia area, with my husband and kitty, Gracie. Emma
>>> and
>>> I, are full time students at Temple University.
>>>
>>> If you need anything, please don't hesitate to ask.
>>>
>>> Marsha, Co-Moderator
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Jessica
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 11:36 AM
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Update
>>>
>>> Hi All
>>> As I was going through message it has been a while since I have posted.
>> I'm
>>> Jessica and have Saunders. He is a yellow lab from GDB's Oregon campus.
>>> He
>>> is a cuddle bunny but then can be totally hyper. Right now am planning
>>> my
>>> wedding. I am getting married in April and my fianc?'s dog came from the
>>> same place but is 4 years older than mine. I am nervous because am
>>> moving
>>> from a small town in Fl to Washington Dc's metro area but am excited to
>>> really put Mr. Saunders to work. He has done great on our visits and I
>> even
>>> think he works better when he is there. He just seems to be more focused
>> and
>>> not as sniffy as when he walks down these roads at home. Hope everyone
>>> is
>>> doing well
>>> Jessica
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 13:07:07 -0600
>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update
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>>> Jessica, congratulations on that upcoming area. That will be a change.
>> Last
>>> time I was married I moved from a university town in Kansas to a tiny
>>> town
>>> in Iowa, the opposite of you. Goodness, what a change. Now I'm in Des
>>> Moines, quite a little busier. I know it will all go well for you there.
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Jessica wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All
>>>> As I was going through message it has been a while since I have posted.
>>>> I'm Jessica and have Saunders. He is a yellow lab from GDB's Oregon
>>>> campus. He is a cuddle bunny but then can be totally hyper. Right now
>>>> am
>>>> planning my wedding. I am getting married in April and my fianc?'s dog
>>>> came from the same place but is 4 years older than mine. I am nervous
>>>> because am moving from a small town in Fl to Washington Dc's metro area
>>>> but am excited to really put Mr. Saunders to work. He has done great on
>>>> our visits and I even think he works better when he is there. He just
>>>> seems to be more focused and not as sniffy as when he walks down these
>>>> roads at home. Hope everyone is doing well
>>>> Jessica
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>>>
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>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 14:57:51 -0500
>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update
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>>>
>>> I here that DC is easy to get around/. My daughter attends Galludet out
>>> there. Are Y'all going to make the dogs dress up as well?
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jessica" <anewheart0910groups at gmail.com>
>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 11:35 AM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Update
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi All
>>> As I was going through message it has been a while since I have posted.
>> I'm
>>> Jessica and have Saunders. He is a yellow lab from GDB's Oregon campus.
>>> He
>>> is a cuddle bunny but then can be totally hyper. Right now am planning
>>> my
>>> wedding. I am getting married in April and my fianc?'s dog came from the
>>> same place but is 4 years older than mine. I am nervous because am
>>> moving
>>> from a small town in Fl to Washington Dc's metro area but am excited to
>>> really put Mr. Saunders to work. He has done great on our visits and I
>> even
>>> think he works better when he is there. He just seems to be more focused
>> and
>>> not as sniffy as when he walks down these roads at home. Hope everyone
>>> is
>>> doing well
>>> Jessica
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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 16:38:57 -0500
>>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>> Message-ID: <E95496603EFF4CE28D50C5E2CB21D21C at hometwxakonvzn>
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>>> I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made you
>>> decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both tell
>>> me
>>> they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in Okeechobee Florida.
>> We
>>> do not have any public transpertation. I practually have to be driven to
>>> church, the store etc. Others from people at church are telling me to
>>> stop
>>> making excuses, and get a dog, but when I tell them I am a cane
>>> traveler,
>>> they accuse me of not trying. I tell them it is a huge responcibility,
>>> and
>>> they tell me that it is just me making excuses. Am I making excuses? I
>>> do
>>> not have the finational means in order to care for a guide dog. I'm only
>>> just making excuses. What do you as guide dog users think? I would have
>>> to
>>> feed the dog, take it for check ups. It is an animal, and it is a
>>> responcibility. RJ
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 16:38:10 -0600
>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
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>>> First of all, I think it is your call if you want a dog or need one. If
>> you
>>> are good with a cane, then you should continue using it. If you want a
>> dog,
>>> you should have one. I'm not sure how the dog would make transportation
>>> easier unless you would feel more confident walking if you had a dog. If
>> you
>>> believe that's true, a dog is good. Dogs are a lot of responsibility,
>>> but
>> if
>>> you love dogs and feel it is worth it to you, for me it would seem you
>>> should consider getting a dog. I didn't catch how you really feel about
>>> it
>>> yourself. A lot of people think the dog is the answer for all blind
>> people.
>>> The dog is not the answer for all blind people. My husband doesn't use
>>> one
>>> because he says he doesn't have the patience and would rather use a
>>> cane.
>>> What it really boils down to is you need to consider the pros and cons;
>>> if
>>> you don't want a dog then don't get it. It's not an excuse and I don't
>> know
>>> what they mean when they say you aren't trying. You aren't trying to do
>>> what?
>>>
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 3:38 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made you
>>>> decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both tell
>>>> me
>>>> they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in Okeechobee
>>>> Florida.
>>>> We do not have any public transpertation. I practually have to be
>>>> driven
>>>> to church, the store etc. Others from people at church are telling me
>>>> to
>>>> stop making excuses, and get a dog, but when I tell them I am a cane
>>>> traveler, they accuse me of not trying. I tell them it is a huge
>>>> responcibility, and they tell me that it is just me making excuses. Am
>>>> I
>>>> making excuses? I do not have the finational means in order to care for
>>>> a
>>>> guide dog. I'm only just making excuses. What do you as guide dog users
>>>> think? I would have to feed the dog, take it for check ups. It is an
>>>> animal, and it is a responcibility. RJ
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 14:38:53 -0800
>>> From: Tami Kinney <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>> Message-ID: <4F30567D.7020703 at comcast.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>>
>>> RJ,
>>>
>>> Good grief! What a nightmare people are making for you! I am so sorry
>>> that you have to put up with it.
>>>
>>> In short, I chose guide dog because I just love dogs and knew I would
>>> love that way of travel over cane. I'm a good cane traveler, but... I
>>> prefer dog. Because I love dogs, I don't see all the hassles and all as
>>> hassles. /smile/ Also, my decision was made for me by physical abuse
>>> from staff at the Oregon Commission for the Blind headquarters. Using a
>>> cane afterwards was making the original injuries worse by leaps and
>>> bounds, and there was no way I could ever hope to start getting the
>>> injuries healed while using a cane to go everywhere. Sigh. Because those
>>> injuries and other events at the time I was there brought my old
>>> fibromyalgia out of remission -- or caused a whole new onset, as it
>>> seems to me -- I needed to deal with the travel problem and became
>>> physically unable to even *think* about the rigors of a guide dog
>>> program. So I got me a poodle pup and when she proved to have "the right
>>> stuff," just up and trained her myself. /smile/ I had tons of training
>>> experience since I was too young to remember, so I knew I had the right
>>> stuff, too, but it was a pretty daunting project. I still sometimes find
>>> myself going about with my super duper poodle guide and feel suddenly
>>> shocked. How'd that happen? /lol/
>>>
>>> As an owner-trainer, I know all about getting, um, strong-smelling brown
>>> stuff over every decision you make to do with dogs canes socks... Oh,
>>> my! Who needs it?
>>>
>>> That's my story.
>>>
>>> Your story is your story. Your decisions are your decisions. Remembering
>>> that when everybody else is telling you what your story is according to
>>> them and what you should do based on the life and times they have so
>>> kindly invented for you is not easy. In fact, it is just plain
>>> maddening!
>>>
>>> Your reasons are yours. They reflect your reality. And most of us on the
>>> list can easily remind you that you have been gathering information to
>>> make the best decision for yourself for quite a while. If you wish to
>>> stick with your cane at this point in your life -- or for all the rest
>>> of it -- that is *no one's* choice but yours.
>>>
>>> Oh, and when you live in a place with no sidewalks and no safe place to
>>> walk where traffic won't mow you down... Even with a guide dog, you will
>>> need a ride. Trust me, I go nuts over being in that position every day.
>>> /lol/ It's just a regular item on my to do list so that I can get it out
>>> of my system and get on with my day so I can give myself better options.
>>> /grin/ If people want to grump at me about my decisions about how to
>>> deal with what exists in the real world, I just smile blandly and shrug.
>>> If they want to go risk their lives doing what they think I should do,
>>> fine. People die out there, and they have sight and everything. I don't
>>> think anyone else's approval is worth dying over, and I'm sure not going
>>> to risk my dog. She's got great traffic training and is a total pro. But
>>> she can't do magic with a road full of crazy, inattentive
>>> non-law-abiding drivers with no protection between us and them. Sooner
>>> or later... So. That's my decision. If I make the wrong decision to
>>> please someone else, they won't be haunted for the rest of their broken,
>>> crippled lives by what they let happen to a really great dog, will they?
>>> Nope!
>>>
>>> Don't know if that attitude of mine is helpful for you, but I got it a
>>> long time ago from someone very wise. If someone tells you to go play in
>>> the freeway, and you do it because they want you to and you want to make
>>> them happy... They don't get run over. You do. /smile/
>>>
>>> Best to you! Sooner or later, you can get to a point where you are
>>> surrounded by people who respect and support you for who you are. It is
>>> not always easy, though, as I also know. And it's really tough when the
>>> pressure is so much and you hear the same thing over and over so often
>>> and said so strongly and reinforced so heavily that you doubt yourself.
>>>
>>> You're doing well!
>>>
>>> Tami
>>>
>>> On 02/06/2012 01:38 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>> I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made you
>>>> decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both tell
>>>> me
>>>> they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in Okeechobee
>>>> Florida.
>>>> We do not have any public transpertation. I practually have to be
>>>> driven
>>>> to church, the store etc. Others from people at church are telling me
>>>> to
>>>> stop making excuses, and get a dog, but when I tell them I am a cane
>>>> traveler, they accuse me of not trying. I tell them it is a huge
>>>> responcibility, and they tell me that it is just me making excuses. Am
>>>> I
>>>> making excuses? I do not have the finational means in order to care for
>>>> a
>>>> guide dog. I'm only just making excuses. What do you as guide dog users
>>>> think? I would have to feed the dog, take it for check ups. It is an
>>>> animal, and it is a responcibility. RJ
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 7
>>> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:07:33 -0500
>>> From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>> Message-ID: <64B360ED52734989A98711C938DF2AEF at margoda7a829ca>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
>>> reply-type=original
>>>
>>> Even if you're good with a cane but prefer a dog, that's fine, too. I
>>> was
>>> always a good cane user but prefer a dog.
>>>
>>> margo and Arrow
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 5:38 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>
>>>
>>>> First of all, I think it is your call if you want a dog or need one. If
>>>> you are good with a cane, then you should continue using it. If you
>>>> want
>> a
>>>>
>>>> dog, you should have one. I'm not sure how the dog would make
>>>> transportation easier unless you would feel more confident walking if
>>>> you
>>>> had a dog. If you believe that's true, a dog is good. Dogs are a lot of
>>>> responsibility, but if you love dogs and feel it is worth it to you,
>>>> for
>>>> me it would seem you should consider getting a dog. I didn't catch how
>> you
>>>>
>>>> really feel about it yourself. A lot of people think the dog is the
>> answer
>>>>
>>>> for all blind people. The dog is not the answer for all blind people.
>>>> My
>>>> husband doesn't use one because he says he doesn't have the patience
>>>> and
>>>> would rather use a cane. What it really boils down to is you need to
>>>> consider the pros and cons; if you don't want a dog then don't get it.
>>>> It's not an excuse and I don't know what they mean when they say you
>>>> aren't trying. You aren't trying to do what?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cindy
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 3:38 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made you
>>>>> decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both tell
>> me
>>>>>
>>>>> they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in Okeechobee
>>>>> Florida.
>>>>> We do not have any public transpertation. I practually have to be
>>>>> driven
>>>>> to church, the store etc. Others from people at church are telling me
>>>>> to
>>>>> stop making excuses, and get a dog, but when I tell them I am a cane
>>>>> traveler, they accuse me of not trying. I tell them it is a huge
>>>>> responcibility, and they tell me that it is just me making excuses. Am
>>>>> I
>>>>> making excuses? I do not have the finational means in order to care
>>>>> for
>> a
>>>>>
>>>>> guide dog. I'm only just making excuses. What do you as guide dog
>>>>> users
>>>>> think? I would have to feed the dog, take it for check ups. It is an
>>>>> animal, and it is a responcibility. RJ
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 8
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 15:09:09 -0800
>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
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>>>
>>> RJ,
>>> I got a guide dog because I was ready to take on the responsibility and
>> yes
>>> it is a huge one at that. I recently (three days ago) graduated from
>>> Pilot
>>> Dogs with my guide and already I've had to take her to the vet. It can
>>> get
>>> expensive and if you do not feel like you are ready, then I think you
>> should
>>> probably wait.
>>> Best, Hannah
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of RJ Sandefur
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 1:39 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>
>>> I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made you
>>> decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both tell
>>> me
>>> they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in Okeechobee Florida.
>> We
>>> do not have any public transpertation. I practually have to be driven to
>>> church, the store etc. Others from people at church are telling me to
>>> stop
>>> making excuses, and get a dog, but when I tell them I am a cane
>>> traveler,
>>> they accuse me of not trying. I tell them it is a huge responcibility,
>>> and
>>> they tell me that it is just me making excuses. Am I making excuses? I
>>> do
>>> not have the finational means in order to care for a guide dog. I'm only
>>> just making excuses. What do you as guide dog users think? I would have
>>> to
>>> feed the dog, take it for check ups. It is an animal, and it is a
>>> responcibility. RJ _______________________________________________
>>> nagdu mailing list
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>> nagdu:
>>>
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/sparklylicious%40suddenli
>>> nk.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 9
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 16:24:13 -0700
>>> From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>> Message-ID: <auto-000027687392 at fe-2.cluster1.bresnan.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>> Hi rj I got a dog partially because my husband thought it would be a
>>> good
>>> idea, but mostly I got one because we lived in a neighborhood where the
>>> corners aren't straight across from each other and I was having trouble
>>> crossing streets straight and people tended to park boats across their
>>> driveways and my cane slipped underneath one and I hit it at chest
>>> level.
>> I
>>> still knows how to use a cane but enjoy the companionship with a dog.
>>>
>>> sheila leigland
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 10
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 15:30:27 -0800
>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>> Message-ID: <000201cce527$4f312d90$ed9388b0$@suddenlink.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> Flying back to California with Princess was easy; she did a fantastic
>>> job,
>>> and you would have thought she's done that all her life *smile*.
>>> Since we got back, Princess hasn't been eating much and I believe it's
>>> due
>>> to all the changes - time difference, new environment, etc. I gave her a
>>> couple of saltine crackers because my trainer asked me not to feed her
>>> the
>>> night prior to coming home, but she threw up on Friday night when we got
>>> back. I went to Petco on Saturday to get her milk bone treats and gave
>>> her
>> a
>>> couple on that day because we had been super busy and she did well
>>> despite
>>> all the changes. However, on Saturday night she started having very soft
>>> stool and by yesterday, she was having diarrhea. I took her to the vet
>> this
>>> morning because I got very worried.
>>> The vet said everything's ok, and that I should put her on white rice
>>> and
>>> boiled chicken mixed with low-fat cottage cheese for a few days because
>>> it
>>> will help her stool go back to normal. I feel a little hesitant about
>>> this
>>> because my trainers mentioned again and again that we shouldn't feed
>>> them
>>> anything besides the food they are used to having. What do you all
>>> think?
>>> Should I go ahead and give her rice with boiled chicken and cottage
>>> cheese
>>> or should I keep her on science diet (which is the food they have been
>>> eating)? I would love to hear feedback!
>>> Cheers, Hannah
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 11
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 18:35:12 -0500
>>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>> Message-ID: <B09A299BFDD24E7BA307D57EAC1D3BE8 at hometwxakonvzn>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=response
>>>
>>> Here is what my mobility instructor said in his report.
>>> Preparation for guide dog - Mr. Sandefur had training to simulate use of
>>> a
>>> guide
>>> within the context of residential travel and semi-commercial travel. Mr.
>>> Sandefur
>>> found the orientation very challenging and after reflecting on his
>>> experience, he
>>> has since decided that he prefers the use of a long cane to guide dog
>>> travel.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Recommendations: Mr. Sandefur will need additional training to
>>> accomplish
>>> his goal of
>>> commercial travel. It should be noted that Mr. Sandefur has decided to
>>> no
>>> longer pursue
>>> his goal of guide dog preparation. Some people at church feel I gave up
>>> to
>>> soon, and that I didn't try heard enough. My family has told me not to
>> apply
>>> for a guide dog because I'd just be wasting my time, but how am I
>>> supposed
>>> to know if I'm really ready to repsue this again in the future? My
>>> mentel
>>> health said that I have trouble ajusting to new things. RJ
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 6:07 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>
>>>
>>>> Even if you're good with a cane but prefer a dog, that's fine, too. I
>> was
>>>>
>>>> always a good cane user but prefer a dog.
>>>>
>>>> margo and Arrow
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 5:38 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> First of all, I think it is your call if you want a dog or need one.
>>>>> If
>>>>> you are good with a cane, then you should continue using it. If you
>>>>> want
>>>>> a dog, you should have one. I'm not sure how the dog would make
>>>>> transportation easier unless you would feel more confident walking if
>> you
>>>>>
>>>>> had a dog. If you believe that's true, a dog is good. Dogs are a lot
>>>>> of
>>>>> responsibility, but if you love dogs and feel it is worth it to you,
>>>>> for
>>>>> me it would seem you should consider getting a dog. I didn't catch how
>>>>> you really feel about it yourself. A lot of people think the dog is
>>>>> the
>>>>> answer for all blind people. The dog is not the answer for all blind
>>>>> people. My husband doesn't use one because he says he doesn't have the
>>>>> patience and would rather use a cane. What it really boils down to is
>> you
>>>>>
>>>>> need to consider the pros and cons; if you don't want a dog then don't
>>>>> get it. It's not an excuse and I don't know what they mean when they
>>>>> say
>>>>> you aren't trying. You aren't trying to do what?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 3:38 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both
>>>>>> tell
>>>>>> me they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in Okeechobee
>>>>>> Florida. We do not have any public transpertation. I practually have
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> be driven to church, the store etc. Others from people at church are
>>>>>> telling me to stop making excuses, and get a dog, but when I tell
>>>>>> them
>> I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> am a cane traveler, they accuse me of not trying. I tell them it is a
>>>>>> huge responcibility, and they tell me that it is just me making
>> excuses.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am I making excuses? I do not have the finational means in order to
>> care
>>>>>>
>>>>>> for a guide dog. I'm only just making excuses. What do you as guide
>>>>>> dog
>>>>>> users think? I would have to feed the dog, take it for check ups. It
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> an animal, and it is a responcibility. RJ
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 12
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 18:37:17 -0500
>>> From: Jessica Pitzer <rolosgirl at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
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>>> I would do the chicken, it will definitely help her tummy, and in 2 or
>>> 3 days you can start slowly start mixing the science diet back in with
>>> the rice.
>>>
>>> On 2/6/12, Hannah Chadwick <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> Flying back to California with Princess was easy; she did a fantastic
>> job,
>>>> and you would have thought she's done that all her life *smile*.
>>>> Since we got back, Princess hasn't been eating much and I believe it's
>> due
>>>> to all the changes - time difference, new environment, etc. I gave her
>>>> a
>>>> couple of saltine crackers because my trainer asked me not to feed her
>> the
>>>> night prior to coming home, but she threw up on Friday night when we
>>>> got
>>>> back. I went to Petco on Saturday to get her milk bone treats and gave
>> her
>>>> a
>>>> couple on that day because we had been super busy and she did well
>> despite
>>>> all the changes. However, on Saturday night she started having very
>>>> soft
>>>> stool and by yesterday, she was having diarrhea. I took her to the vet
>>>> this
>>>> morning because I got very worried.
>>>> The vet said everything's ok, and that I should put her on white rice
>>>> and
>>>> boiled chicken mixed with low-fat cottage cheese for a few days because
>> it
>>>> will help her stool go back to normal. I feel a little hesitant about
>> this
>>>> because my trainers mentioned again and again that we shouldn't feed
>>>> them
>>>> anything besides the food they are used to having. What do you all
>>>> think?
>>>> Should I go ahead and give her rice with boiled chicken and cottage
>> cheese
>>>> or should I keep her on science diet (which is the food they have been
>>>> eating)? I would love to hear feedback!
>>>> Cheers, Hannah
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>>> nagdu:
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 13
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 16:40:20 -0700
>>> From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>> Message-ID: <auto-000045192255 at fe-3.cluster1.bresnan.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>> Our vet recomends cutting way back on food and over a few days gradually
>>> increase to the amounts she is use to. Changes of water and routein can
>>> interfere with their systems for a while. Make sure she is drinking
>>> water
>>> though
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 14
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 17:39:57 -0600
>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>> Message-ID: <E35983A8-C9C1-4AEB-88BB-CAD4F4FE9CB2 at gmail.com>
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>>>
>>> Well, first of all, your trainers are talking about normal times. I
>>> would
>> do
>>> what the vet said. Not sure why boiled chicken and cottage cheese, but
>> I've
>>> used cottage cheese and I've used lean hamburger. You give them that
>>> and,
>> at
>>> least what I did, was gradually rework in the regularly scheduled food
>>> as
>>> the dog seemed to be better.
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> Flying back to California with Princess was easy; she did a fantastic
>> job,
>>>> and you would have thought she's done that all her life *smile*.
>>>> Since we got back, Princess hasn't been eating much and I believe it's
>> due
>>>> to all the changes - time difference, new environment, etc. I gave her
>>>> a
>>>> couple of saltine crackers because my trainer asked me not to feed her
>> the
>>>> night prior to coming home, but she threw up on Friday night when we
>>>> got
>>>> back. I went to Petco on Saturday to get her milk bone treats and gave
>> her
>>>> a
>>>> couple on that day because we had been super busy and she did well
>> despite
>>>> all the changes. However, on Saturday night she started having very
>>>> soft
>>>> stool and by yesterday, she was having diarrhea. I took her to the vet
>>>> this
>>>> morning because I got very worried.
>>>> The vet said everything's ok, and that I should put her on white rice
>>>> and
>>>> boiled chicken mixed with low-fat cottage cheese for a few days because
>> it
>>>> will help her stool go back to normal. I feel a little hesitant about
>> this
>>>> because my trainers mentioned again and again that we shouldn't feed
>>>> them
>>>> anything besides the food they are used to having. What do you all
>>>> think?
>>>> Should I go ahead and give her rice with boiled chicken and cottage
>> cheese
>>>> or should I keep her on science diet (which is the food they have been
>>>> eating)? I would love to hear feedback!
>>>> Cheers, Hannah
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 15
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 15:48:56 -0800
>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
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>>> Yes, she has been drinking lots and lots of water!
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Cindy Ray
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 3:40 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>
>>> Well, first of all, your trainers are talking about normal times. I
>>> would
>> do
>>> what the vet said. Not sure why boiled chicken and cottage cheese, but
>> I've
>>> used cottage cheese and I've used lean hamburger. You give them that
>>> and,
>> at
>>> least what I did, was gradually rework in the regularly scheduled food
>>> as
>>> the dog seemed to be better.
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> Flying back to California with Princess was easy; she did a fantastic
>>>> job, and you would have thought she's done that all her life *smile*.
>>>> Since we got back, Princess hasn't been eating much and I believe it's
>>>> due to all the changes - time difference, new environment, etc. I gave
>>>> her a couple of saltine crackers because my trainer asked me not to
>>>> feed her the night prior to coming home, but she threw up on Friday
>>>> night when we got back. I went to Petco on Saturday to get her milk
>>>> bone treats and gave her a couple on that day because we had been
>>>> super busy and she did well despite all the changes. However, on
>>>> Saturday night she started having very soft stool and by yesterday,
>>>> she was having diarrhea. I took her to the vet this morning because I
>>>> got
>>> very worried.
>>>> The vet said everything's ok, and that I should put her on white rice
>>>> and boiled chicken mixed with low-fat cottage cheese for a few days
>>>> because it will help her stool go back to normal. I feel a little
>>>> hesitant about this because my trainers mentioned again and again that
>>>> we shouldn't feed them anything besides the food they are used to
>>>> having.
>>> What do you all think?
>>>> Should I go ahead and give her rice with boiled chicken and cottage
>>>> cheese or should I keep her on science diet (which is the food they
>>>> have been eating)? I would love to hear feedback!
>>>> Cheers, Hannah
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 16
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:04:15 -0500
>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
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>>>
>>> hi, the only person i listened to when deciding to get a dog was me,
>> because
>>> i'm the only one who truely knows my abilities and limitations, and i
>>> personaly have always loved all our 4 footed, feathered, finned and
>>> scaled
>>> friends (except for roaches, YUCK)
>>> thats my story, and i'm stick'en to it lol
>>> just make the decision on whats best for you and nobody else
>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 17
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:09:48 -0500
>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
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>>>
>>> like they told me before i brought Lynard home from Leader, just trust
>> your
>>> vet, he/she iscloser to the situation then those at the school once you
>> take
>>> the dog home
>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 18
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 18:10:50 -0600
>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
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>>> I think what William has said here is good advice.
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:09 PM, William Vandervest wrote:
>>>
>>>> like they told me before i brought Lynard home from Leader, just trust
>>>> your vet, he/she iscloser to the situation then those at the school
>>>> once
>>>> you take the dog home
>>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 19
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:36:00 -0500
>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
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>>>
>>> In my case, I just like dogs! I find the responsibility no big deal.
>> Well,
>>> sometimes the money is squeezed a bit! I find that I can move much
>>> faster
>>> with a dog. I already move pretty good with a cane but I can run with
>>> Holly! But, if you don't want the responsibility that could be a big
>> deal!
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 4:38 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made you
>>>>decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both tell
>>>>me
>>>>they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in Okeechobee Florida.
>> We
>>>>
>>>>do not have any public transpertation. I practually have to be driven to
>>>>church, the store etc. Others from people at church are telling me to
>>>>stop
>>>>making excuses, and get a dog, but when I tell them I am a cane
>>>>traveler,
>>>>they accuse me of not trying. I tell them it is a huge responcibility,
>>>>and
>>>>they tell me that it is just me making excuses. Am I making excuses? I
>>>>do
>>>>not have the finational means in order to care for a guide dog. I'm only
>>>>just making excuses. What do you as guide dog users think? I would have
>>>>to
>>>>feed the dog, take it for check ups. It is an animal, and it is a
>>>>responcibility. RJ
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 20
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:37:02 -0500
>>> From: "Jessica" <anewheart0910groups at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update
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>>>
>>> Hi All
>>> The doggies will not be in the wedding as my dog sort of likes to hump
>> other
>>> doggies. Gdb is going to work on this when they come to work with me
>>> after
>> I
>>> get settled there and have a bit of mobility haha. I lived in Orlando
>>> for
>> 3
>>> years while I worked at a hotel but moved back to my home town before
>>> getting my doggie. Thanks all for the responses.
>>> Jess
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:02 PM
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update
>>>
>>>> Hi Jessica,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for the update. Congrats on the upcoming wedding. Since both
>>>> of
>>>> you have guides, will you all be having the wedding with your pups
>>>> involved?
>>>> More curious, sorry if its too personal. I am assuming your going to be
>>>> moving to D.C., well welcome to the northeast!
>>>>
>>>> I am Marsha, working my 6 yo GSD from Seeing Eye. Emma and I, live in
>>>> PA,
>>>> in
>>>> the greater Philadelphia area, with my husband and kitty, Gracie. Emma
>> and
>>>> I, are full time students at Temple University.
>>>>
>>>> If you need anything, please don't hesitate to ask.
>>>>
>>>> Marsha, Co-Moderator
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>>>> Of Jessica
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 11:36 AM
>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Update
>>>>
>>>> Hi All
>>>> As I was going through message it has been a while since I have posted.
>>>> I'm
>>>> Jessica and have Saunders. He is a yellow lab from GDB's Oregon campus.
>> He
>>>> is a cuddle bunny but then can be totally hyper. Right now am planning
>>>> my
>>>> wedding. I am getting married in April and my fianc?'s dog came from
>>>> the
>>>> same place but is 4 years older than mine. I am nervous because am
>>>> moving
>>>> from a small town in Fl to Washington Dc's metro area but am excited to
>>>> really put Mr. Saunders to work. He has done great on our visits and I
>>>> even
>>>> think he works better when he is there. He just seems to be more
>>>> focused
>>>> and
>>>> not as sniffy as when he walks down these roads at home. Hope everyone
>>>> is
>>>> doing well
>>>> Jessica
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>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 21
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:38:42 -0500
>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
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>>>
>>> Cindy, before I got Holly, everyone would always ask me why I didn't get
>>> a
>>> dog! I just didn't want one at the time and that was all there was to
>>> it!
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 5:38 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>
>>>
>>>> First of all, I think it is your call if you want a dog or need one. If
>>>> you are good with a cane, then you should continue using it. If you
>>>> want
>> a
>>>>
>>>> dog, you should have one. I'm not sure how the dog would make
>>>> transportation easier unless you would feel more confident walking if
>>>> you
>>>> had a dog. If you believe that's true, a dog is good. Dogs are a lot of
>>>> responsibility, but if you love dogs and feel it is worth it to you,
>>>> for
>>>> me it would seem you should consider getting a dog. I didn't catch how
>> you
>>>>
>>>> really feel about it yourself. A lot of people think the dog is the
>> answer
>>>>
>>>> for all blind people. The dog is not the answer for all blind people.
>>>> My
>>>> husband doesn't use one because he says he doesn't have the patience
>>>> and
>>>> would rather use a cane. What it really boils down to is you need to
>>>> consider the pros and cons; if you don't want a dog then don't get it.
>>>> It's not an excuse and I don't know what they mean when they say you
>>>> aren't trying. You aren't trying to do what?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cindy
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 3:38 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made you
>>>>> decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both tell
>> me
>>>>>
>>>>> they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in Okeechobee
>>>>> Florida.
>>>>> We do not have any public transpertation. I practually have to be
>>>>> driven
>>>>> to church, the store etc. Others from people at church are telling me
>>>>> to
>>>>> stop making excuses, and get a dog, but when I tell them I am a cane
>>>>> traveler, they accuse me of not trying. I tell them it is a huge
>>>>> responcibility, and they tell me that it is just me making excuses. Am
>>>>> I
>>>>> making excuses? I do not have the finational means in order to care
>>>>> for
>> a
>>>>>
>>>>> guide dog. I'm only just making excuses. What do you as guide dog
>>>>> users
>>>>> think? I would have to feed the dog, take it for check ups. It is an
>>>>> animal, and it is a responcibility. RJ
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>>>
>>> Message: 22
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:41:09 -0500
>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>> Message-ID: <4C6554F919D0499BB17B523B03B4675E at yourec0540d030>
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>>> reply-type=response
>>>
>>> Tami, you just wanted to look like a poodle! RJ, at least you don't
>>> have
>> to
>>> take the cane out to poop when its well below zero outside! Oh, I
>>> forgot,
>>> it never does that down in the everglades!
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tami Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 5:38 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>
>>>
>>>> RJ,
>>>>
>>>> Good grief! What a nightmare people are making for you! I am so sorry
>> that
>>>>
>>>> you have to put up with it.
>>>>
>>>> In short, I chose guide dog because I just love dogs and knew I would
>> love
>>>>
>>>> that way of travel over cane. I'm a good cane traveler, but... I prefer
>>>> dog. Because I love dogs, I don't see all the hassles and all as
>>>> hassles.
>>>> /smile/ Also, my decision was made for me by physical abuse from staff
>>>> at
>>>> the Oregon Commission for the Blind headquarters. Using a cane
>>>> afterwards
>>>> was making the original injuries worse by leaps and bounds, and there
>>>> was
>>>> no way I could ever hope to start getting the injuries healed while
>>>> using
>>>> a cane to go everywhere. Sigh. Because those injuries and other events
>>>> at
>>>> the time I was there brought my old fibromyalgia out of remission -- or
>>>> caused a whole new onset, as it seems to me -- I needed to deal with
>>>> the
>>>> travel problem and became physically unable to even *think* about the
>>>> rigors of a guide dog program. So I got me a poodle pup and when she
>>>> proved to have "the right stuff," just up and trained her myself.
>>>> /smile/
>>>> I had tons of training experience since I was too young to remember, so
>>>> I
>>>> knew I had the right stuff, too, but it was a pretty daunting project.
>>>> I
>>>> still sometimes find myself going about with my super duper poodle
>>>> guide
>>>> and feel suddenly shocked. How'd that happen? /lol/
>>>>
>>>> As an owner-trainer, I know all about getting, um, strong-smelling
>>>> brown
>>>> stuff over every decision you make to do with dogs canes socks... Oh,
>> my!
>>>>
>>>> Who needs it?
>>>>
>>>> That's my story.
>>>>
>>>> Your story is your story. Your decisions are your decisions.
>>>> Remembering
>>>> that when everybody else is telling you what your story is according to
>>>> them and what you should do based on the life and times they have so
>>>> kindly invented for you is not easy. In fact, it is just plain
>>>> maddening!
>>>>
>>>> Your reasons are yours. They reflect your reality. And most of us on
>>>> the
>>>> list can easily remind you that you have been gathering information to
>>>> make the best decision for yourself for quite a while. If you wish to
>>>> stick with your cane at this point in your life -- or for all the rest
>>>> of
>>>> it -- that is *no one's* choice but yours.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, and when you live in a place with no sidewalks and no safe place to
>>>> walk where traffic won't mow you down... Even with a guide dog, you
>>>> will
>>>> need a ride. Trust me, I go nuts over being in that position every day.
>>>> /lol/ It's just a regular item on my to do list so that I can get it
>>>> out
>>>> of my system and get on with my day so I can give myself better
>>>> options.
>>>> /grin/ If people want to grump at me about my decisions about how to
>>>> deal
>>>> with what exists in the real world, I just smile blandly and shrug. If
>>>> they want to go risk their lives doing what they think I should do,
>>>> fine.
>>>> People die out there, and they have sight and everything. I don't think
>>>> anyone else's approval is worth dying over, and I'm sure not going to
>> risk
>>>>
>>>> my dog. She's got great traffic training and is a total pro. But she
>> can't
>>>>
>>>> do magic with a road full of crazy, inattentive non-law-abiding drivers
>>>> with no protection between us and them. Sooner or later... So. That's
>>>> my
>>>> decision. If I make the wrong decision to please someone else, they
>>>> won't
>>>> be haunted for the rest of their broken, crippled lives by what they
>>>> let
>>>> happen to a really great dog, will they? Nope!
>>>>
>>>> Don't know if that attitude of mine is helpful for you, but I got it a
>>>> long time ago from someone very wise. If someone tells you to go play
>>>> in
>>>> the freeway, and you do it because they want you to and you want to
>>>> make
>>>> them happy... They don't get run over. You do. /smile/
>>>>
>>>> Best to you! Sooner or later, you can get to a point where you are
>>>> surrounded by people who respect and support you for who you are. It is
>>>> not always easy, though, as I also know. And it's really tough when the
>>>> pressure is so much and you hear the same thing over and over so often
>> and
>>>>
>>>> said so strongly and reinforced so heavily that you doubt yourself.
>>>>
>>>> You're doing well!
>>>>
>>>> Tami
>>>>
>>>> On 02/06/2012 01:38 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>>> I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made you
>>>>> decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both tell
>> me
>>>>>
>>>>> they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in Okeechobee
>>>>> Florida.
>>>>> We do not have any public transpertation. I practually have to be
>>>>> driven
>>>>> to church, the store etc. Others from people at church are telling me
>>>>> to
>>>>> stop making excuses, and get a dog, but when I tell them I am a cane
>>>>> traveler, they accuse me of not trying. I tell them it is a huge
>>>>> responcibility, and they tell me that it is just me making excuses. Am
>>>>> I
>>>>> making excuses? I do not have the finational means in order to care
>>>>> for
>> a
>>>>>
>>>>> guide dog. I'm only just making excuses. What do you as guide dog
>>>>> users
>>>>> think? I would have to feed the dog, take it for check ups. It is an
>>>>> animal, and it is a responcibility. RJ
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>>> Message: 23
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:42:14 -0500
>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>> Message-ID: <76F70DF180B8461EB814D667D8FF0C55 at yourec0540d030>
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>>>
>>> How's it going with Princess anyway?
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 6:09 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>
>>>
>>>> RJ,
>>>> I got a guide dog because I was ready to take on the responsibility and
>>>> yes
>>>> it is a huge one at that. I recently (three days ago) graduated from
>> Pilot
>>>> Dogs with my guide and already I've had to take her to the vet. It can
>> get
>>>> expensive and if you do not feel like you are ready, then I think you
>>>> should
>>>> probably wait.
>>>> Best, Hannah
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>>>> Of RJ Sandefur
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 1:39 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>
>>>> I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made you
>>>> decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both tell
>>>> me
>>>> they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in Okeechobee
>>>> Florida.
>>>> We
>>>> do not have any public transpertation. I practually have to be driven
>>>> to
>>>> church, the store etc. Others from people at church are telling me to
>> stop
>>>> making excuses, and get a dog, but when I tell them I am a cane
>>>> traveler,
>>>> they accuse me of not trying. I tell them it is a huge responcibility,
>> and
>>>> they tell me that it is just me making excuses. Am I making excuses? I
>>>> do
>>>> not have the finational means in order to care for a guide dog. I'm
>>>> only
>>>> just making excuses. What do you as guide dog users think? I would have
>> to
>>>> feed the dog, take it for check ups. It is an animal, and it is a
>>>> responcibility. RJ _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>> Message: 24
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:41:56 -0500
>>> From: "Jessica" <anewheart0910groups at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>> Message-ID: <1FAE387A60FE41C59A2E51B25E5EA326 at jessicasearsPC>
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>>> reply-type=original
>>>
>>> Hi
>>> Knowing your area as good as I do I will say it is not a dog area. There
>> are
>>> no sidewalks and no transpo. I will say a dog is a huge responsibility
>>> but
>>> for me it is worth it every time he gets me around things, licks my
>>> hand,
>> or
>>> even puts his paws on me to say lets play. When I got a dog I will be
>> honest
>>> in saying I had no clue what I was in for. The first 6 months were
>>> definitely stressful on both of us but we worked hard through and am so
>>> blessed to have him. Think hard about the choice and no that is not an
>>> excuse you are making. Though some schools pay for some vet care most
>>> require you to put it out first before getting refunded later. It is all
>> up
>>> to you and only you know inside what is best for you. Good luck.
>>> Jess
>>> Jess
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 4:38 PM
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>
>>>> I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made you
>>>> decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both tell
>>>> me
>>>> they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in Okeechobee
>>>> Florida.
>>>> We do not have any public transpertation. I practually have to be
>>>> driven
>>>> to church, the store etc. Others from people at church are telling me
>>>> to
>>>> stop making excuses, and get a dog, but when I tell them I am a cane
>>>> traveler, they accuse me of not trying. I tell them it is a huge
>>>> responcibility, and they tell me that it is just me making excuses. Am
>>>> I
>>>> making excuses? I do not have the finational means in order to care for
>>>> a
>>>> guide dog. I'm only just making excuses. What do you as guide dog users
>>>> think? I would have to feed the dog, take it for check ups. It is an
>>>> animal, and it is a responcibility. RJ
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 25
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:49:32 -0500
>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>> Message-ID: <F2F9145478A64DE8B1E323FAF60F4330 at yourec0540d030>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=original
>>>
>>> If the vet recommends it, well that's what I would do! Holly had some
>>> issues when we got home but they only lasted a week or so. Also, when
>>> we
>> go
>>> somewhere for the weekend, sometimes Holly wouldn't eat much. Se4nce
>>> she
>>> drinks, I don't worry about her because she scarfs when she gets home!
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 6:30 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> Flying back to California with Princess was easy; she did a fantastic
>> job,
>>>> and you would have thought she's done that all her life *smile*.
>>>> Since we got back, Princess hasn't been eating much and I believe it's
>> due
>>>> to all the changes - time difference, new environment, etc. I gave her
>>>> a
>>>> couple of saltine crackers because my trainer asked me not to feed her
>> the
>>>> night prior to coming home, but she threw up on Friday night when we
>>>> got
>>>> back. I went to Petco on Saturday to get her milk bone treats and gave
>> her
>>>>
>>>> a
>>>> couple on that day because we had been super busy and she did well
>> despite
>>>> all the changes. However, on Saturday night she started having very
>>>> soft
>>>> stool and by yesterday, she was having diarrhea. I took her to the vet
>>>> this
>>>> morning because I got very worried.
>>>> The vet said everything's ok, and that I should put her on white rice
>>>> and
>>>> boiled chicken mixed with low-fat cottage cheese for a few days because
>> it
>>>> will help her stool go back to normal. I feel a little hesitant about
>> this
>>>> because my trainers mentioned again and again that we shouldn't feed
>>>> them
>>>> anything besides the food they are used to having. What do you all
>>>> think?
>>>> Should I go ahead and give her rice with boiled chicken and cottage
>> cheese
>>>> or should I keep her on science diet (which is the food they have been
>>>> eating)? I would love to hear feedback!
>>>> Cheers, Hannah
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 26
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 16:52:12 -0800
>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>> Message-ID: <000601cce532$baec36f0$30c4a4d0$@suddenlink.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> Yeah, I'll start feeding her the recommended food tonight. I just wanted
>> to
>>> know what everyone else's thoughts are on this.
>>> Otherwise, Princess is doing great and continues to amaze me everyday.
>> She's
>>> so aadorable! *grin* :)
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Larry D. Keeler
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 4:50 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>
>>> If the vet recommends it, well that's what I would do! Holly had some
>>> issues when we got home but they only lasted a week or so. Also, when
>>> we
>> go
>>> somewhere for the weekend, sometimes Holly wouldn't eat much. Se4nce
>>> she
>>> drinks, I don't worry about her because she scarfs when she gets home!
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 6:30 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> Flying back to California with Princess was easy; she did a fantastic
>>>> job, and you would have thought she's done that all her life *smile*.
>>>> Since we got back, Princess hasn't been eating much and I believe it's
>>>> due to all the changes - time difference, new environment, etc. I gave
>>>> her a couple of saltine crackers because my trainer asked me not to
>>>> feed her the night prior to coming home, but she threw up on Friday
>>>> night when we got back. I went to Petco on Saturday to get her milk
>>>> bone treats and gave her a couple on that day because we had been
>>>> super busy and she did well despite all the changes. However, on
>>>> Saturday night she started having very soft stool and by yesterday,
>>>> she was having diarrhea. I took her to the vet this morning because I
>>>> got very worried.
>>>> The vet said everything's ok, and that I should put her on white rice
>>>> and boiled chicken mixed with low-fat cottage cheese for a few days
>>>> because it will help her stool go back to normal. I feel a little
>>>> hesitant about this because my trainers mentioned again and again that
>>>> we shouldn't feed them anything besides the food they are used to
>>>> having.
>>> What do you all think?
>>>> Should I go ahead and give her rice with boiled chicken and cottage
>>>> cheese or should I keep her on science diet (which is the food they
>>>> have been eating)? I would love to hear feedback!
>>>> Cheers, Hannah
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 27
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:53:08 -0500
>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
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>>>
>>> You'll know! Just don't let others tell you what you need! I have seen
>>> folks who think they need a dog because they're doctors tell them that's
>>> they should have! However, they're mobility skills are not gode and
>>> some
>>> don't even like dogs!
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 6:35 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>
>>>
>>>> Here is what my mobility instructor said in his report.
>>>> Preparation for guide dog - Mr. Sandefur had training to simulate use
>>>> of
>> a
>>>>
>>>> guide
>>>> within the context of residential travel and semi-commercial travel.
>>>> Mr.
>>>> Sandefur
>>>> found the orientation very challenging and after reflecting on his
>>>> experience, he
>>>> has since decided that he prefers the use of a long cane to guide dog
>>>> travel.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Recommendations: Mr. Sandefur will need additional training to
>>>> accomplish
>>>> his goal of
>>>> commercial travel. It should be noted that Mr. Sandefur has decided to
>>>> no
>>>> longer pursue
>>>> his goal of guide dog preparation. Some people at church feel I gave up
>> to
>>>>
>>>> soon, and that I didn't try heard enough. My family has told me not to
>>>> apply for a guide dog because I'd just be wasting my time, but how am I
>>>> supposed to know if I'm really ready to repsue this again in the
>>>> future?
>>>> My mentel health said that I have trouble ajusting to new things. RJ
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 6:07 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Even if you're good with a cane but prefer a dog, that's fine, too. I
>>>>> was always a good cane user but prefer a dog.
>>>>>
>>>>> margo and Arrow
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 5:38 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> First of all, I think it is your call if you want a dog or need one.
>>>>>> If
>>>>>> you are good with a cane, then you should continue using it. If you
>> want
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a dog, you should have one. I'm not sure how the dog would make
>>>>>> transportation easier unless you would feel more confident walking if
>>>>>> you had a dog. If you believe that's true, a dog is good. Dogs are a
>> lot
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of responsibility, but if you love dogs and feel it is worth it to
>>>>>> you,
>>>>>> for me it would seem you should consider getting a dog. I didn't
>>>>>> catch
>>>>>> how you really feel about it yourself. A lot of people think the dog
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> the answer for all blind people. The dog is not the answer for all
>> blind
>>>>>>
>>>>>> people. My husband doesn't use one because he says he doesn't have
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> patience and would rather use a cane. What it really boils down to is
>>>>>> you need to consider the pros and cons; if you don't want a dog then
>>>>>> don't get it. It's not an excuse and I don't know what they mean when
>>>>>> they say you aren't trying. You aren't trying to do what?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 3:38 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both
>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>> me they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in Okeechobee
>>>>>>> Florida. We do not have any public transpertation. I practually have
>> to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> be driven to church, the store etc. Others from people at church are
>>>>>>> telling me to stop making excuses, and get a dog, but when I tell
>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>> I am a cane traveler, they accuse me of not trying. I tell them it
>>>>>>> is
>> a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> huge responcibility, and they tell me that it is just me making
>>>>>>> excuses. Am I making excuses? I do not have the finational means in
>>>>>>> order to care for a guide dog. I'm only just making excuses. What do
>>>>>>> you as guide dog users think? I would have to feed the dog, take it
>> for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> check ups. It is an animal, and it is a responcibility. RJ
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 28
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:55:58 -0500
>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>> Message-ID: <4389FF66D4F84F1090039553D1440AD9 at yourec0540d030>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
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>>>
>>> First thing Holly did, when we got home was run in my sons room and
>>> dump!
>>> No, she had been out but when we got back, it rained for 3 days and I'm
>> not
>>> sure if she was nervous or if she just didn't feel like going out in the
>>> rain! But, that stopped really quick!
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jessica Pitzer" <rolosgirl at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 6:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>
>>>
>>>>I would do the chicken, it will definitely help her tummy, and in 2 or
>>>> 3 days you can start slowly start mixing the science diet back in with
>>>> the rice.
>>>>
>>>> On 2/6/12, Hannah Chadwick <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> Flying back to California with Princess was easy; she did a fantastic
>>>>> job,
>>>>> and you would have thought she's done that all her life *smile*.
>>>>> Since we got back, Princess hasn't been eating much and I believe it's
>>>>> due
>>>>> to all the changes - time difference, new environment, etc. I gave her
>>>>> a
>>>>> couple of saltine crackers because my trainer asked me not to feed her
>>>>> the
>>>>> night prior to coming home, but she threw up on Friday night when we
>>>>> got
>>>>> back. I went to Petco on Saturday to get her milk bone treats and gave
>>>>> her a
>>>>> couple on that day because we had been super busy and she did well
>>>>> despite
>>>>> all the changes. However, on Saturday night she started having very
>>>>> soft
>>>>> stool and by yesterday, she was having diarrhea. I took her to the vet
>>>>> this
>>>>> morning because I got very worried.
>>>>> The vet said everything's ok, and that I should put her on white rice
>> and
>>>>> boiled chicken mixed with low-fat cottage cheese for a few days
>>>>> because
>>>>> it
>>>>> will help her stool go back to normal. I feel a little hesitant about
>>>>> this
>>>>> because my trainers mentioned again and again that we shouldn't feed
>> them
>>>>> anything besides the food they are used to having. What do you all
>> think?
>>>>> Should I go ahead and give her rice with boiled chicken and cottage
>>>>> cheese
>>>>> or should I keep her on science diet (which is the food they have been
>>>>> eating)? I would love to hear feedback!
>>>>> Cheers, Hannah
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 29
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:58:08 -0500
>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>> Message-ID: <91E8F75953C443A5A0BA051DA3DE03E9 at yourec0540d030>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=response
>>>
>>> I know you bill! You got a dog just so you could have a friend that
>>> would
>>> have to listen to you!
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 7:04 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>
>>>
>>>> hi, the only person i listened to when deciding to get a dog was me,
>>>> because i'm the only one who truely knows my abilities and limitations,
>>>> and i personaly have always loved all our 4 footed, feathered, finned
>>>> and
>>>> scaled friends (except for roaches, YUCK)
>>>> thats my story, and i'm stick'en to it lol
>>>> just make the decision on whats best for you and nobody else
>>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 30
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 16:58:06 -0800
>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>> Message-ID: <000801cce533$8d9d2280$a8d76780$@suddenlink.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> Princess loves to sniff everywhere and that's the very first thing she
>>> did
>>> when we got home.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Larry D. Keeler
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 4:56 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>
>>> First thing Holly did, when we got home was run in my sons room and
>>> dump!
>>> No, she had been out but when we got back, it rained for 3 days and I'm
>> not
>>> sure if she was nervous or if she just didn't feel like going out in the
>>> rain! But, that stopped really quick!
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jessica Pitzer" <rolosgirl at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 6:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>
>>>
>>>>I would do the chicken, it will definitely help her tummy, and in 2 or
>>>> 3 days you can start slowly start mixing the science diet back in with
>>>>the rice.
>>>>
>>>> On 2/6/12, Hannah Chadwick <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> Flying back to California with Princess was easy; she did a fantastic
>>>>> job, and you would have thought she's done that all her life *smile*.
>>>>> Since we got back, Princess hasn't been eating much and I believe
>>>>> it's due to all the changes - time difference, new environment, etc.
>>>>> I gave her a couple of saltine crackers because my trainer asked me
>>>>> not to feed her the night prior to coming home, but she threw up on
>>>>> Friday night when we got back. I went to Petco on Saturday to get her
>>>>> milk bone treats and gave her a couple on that day because we had
>>>>> been super busy and she did well despite all the changes. However, on
>>>>> Saturday night she started having very soft stool and by yesterday,
>>>>> she was having diarrhea. I took her to the vet this morning because I
>>>>> got very worried.
>>>>> The vet said everything's ok, and that I should put her on white rice
>>>>> and boiled chicken mixed with low-fat cottage cheese for a few days
>>>>> because it will help her stool go back to normal. I feel a little
>>>>> hesitant about this because my trainers mentioned again and again
>>>>> that we shouldn't feed them anything besides the food they are used
>>>>> to having. What do you all think?
>>>>> Should I go ahead and give her rice with boiled chicken and cottage
>>>>> cheese or should I keep her on science diet (which is the food they
>>>>> have been eating)? I would love to hear feedback!
>>>>> Cheers, Hannah
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 31
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 20:01:24 -0500
>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>> Message-ID: <B7B8725372124235A8F42E96C943FA01 at yourec0540d030>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
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>>>
>>> Pilot in particular really is against people food for dogs. Partly
>> because
>>> some folks open that door and there dogs get to be real porkers and
>> beggars!
>>> Niether of those things is all that good! But, I do slide Holly an
>>> occasional beef jerky, carrot or other treat about once a month. Dog
>> treats
>>> always and of many types!
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 7:09 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>
>>>
>>>> like they told me before i brought Lynard home from Leader, just trust
>>>> your vet, he/she iscloser to the situation then those at the school
>>>> once
>>>> you take the dog home
>>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 32
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 17:08:07 -0800
>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>> Message-ID: <000a01cce534$f413f330$dc3bd990$@suddenlink.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> Yeah I've definitely noticed that. Do you think Princess got sick from
>>> the
>>> milk bones? I mean she's never had them before... the Petco grooming
>>> salon
>>> people seem to think it's the milk bones that made her have diarrhea...
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Larry D. Keeler
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 5:01 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>
>>> Pilot in particular really is against people food for dogs. Partly
>> because
>>> some folks open that door and there dogs get to be real porkers and
>> beggars!
>>>
>>> Niether of those things is all that good! But, I do slide Holly an
>>> occasional beef jerky, carrot or other treat about once a month. Dog
>> treats
>>> always and of many types!
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 7:09 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>
>>>
>>>> like they told me before i brought Lynard home from Leader, just trust
>>>> your vet, he/she iscloser to the situation then those at the school
>>>> once you take the dog home William And LD Lynard
>>>>
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>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 33
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 20:16:13 -0500
>>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>> Message-ID: <02B6FD20C6754A00BF5166F4F1621825 at hometwxakonvzn>
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>>>
>>> Why do the schools tell people guide dogs arn't robots? This I would
>>> think
>>> is a no brainer. How do you expline to a vet, about your dog? RJ
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 7:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>
>>>
>>>> In my case, I just like dogs! I find the responsibility no big deal.
>>>> Well, sometimes the money is squeezed a bit! I find that I can move
>>>> much
>>>> faster with a dog. I already move pretty good with a cane but I can
>>>> run
>>>> with Holly! But, if you don't want the responsibility that could be a
>> big
>>>>
>>>> deal!
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 4:38 PM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made you
>>>>>decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both tell
>>>>>me
>>>>>they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in Okeechobee
>>>>>Florida.
>>>>>We do not have any public transpertation. I practually have to be
>>>>>driven
>>>>>to church, the store etc. Others from people at church are telling me
>>>>>to
>>>>>stop making excuses, and get a dog, but when I tell them I am a cane
>>>>>traveler, they accuse me of not trying. I tell them it is a huge
>>>>>responcibility, and they tell me that it is just me making excuses. Am
>>>>>I
>>>>>making excuses? I do not have the finational means in order to care for
>>>>>a
>>>>>guide dog. I'm only just making excuses. What do you as guide dog users
>>>>>think? I would have to feed the dog, take it for check ups. It is an
>>>>>animal, and it is a responcibility. RJ
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 34
>>> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 19:38:58 -0600
>>> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>> Message-ID: <4F3080B2.5010300 at neb.rr.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>>
>>> RJ,
>>>
>>> I think it doesn't matter what I think! *smile*
>>>
>>> Whether or not you get a guide dog is totally, completely all you. You
>>> are the one who is going to have to train with the dog, take care of the
>>> dog, clean up poop and foot the bills. You are also the one who would
>>> be traveling with the dog. If you feel you would prefer to work a dog
>>> than use a cane, then go for it. If not, just say no.
>>>
>>> I have no idea why your family or mobility instructor don't feel you
>>> would benefit from a guide. That is an entirely different issue
>>> though. Some family members get upset by the idea of guide dogs because
>>> they feel the dog will do the job they used to do. Some mobility
>>> instructors feel guide dogs are only for totally blind people or blind
>>> people with poor O&M. That isn't true though. I am a very good cane
>>> traveler as are many of the people on this list. And I know people who
>>> are really not so great with a cane and do not want a dog. It really
>>> comes down to personal choice.
>>>
>>> Good luck with whatever you choose,
>>> Julie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/6/2012 3:38 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>> I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made
>>>> you decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both
>>>> tell me they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in
>>>> Okeechobee Florida. We do not have any public transpertation. I
>>>> practually have to be driven to church, the store etc. Others from
>>>> people at church are telling me to stop making excuses, and get a
>>>> dog, but when I tell them I am a cane traveler, they accuse me of not
>>>> trying. I tell them it is a huge responcibility, and they tell me
>>>> that it is just me making excuses. Am I making excuses? I do not have
>>>> the finational means in order to care for a guide dog. I'm only just
>>>> making excuses. What do you as guide dog users think? I would have to
>>>> feed the dog, take it for check ups. It is an animal, and it is a
>>>> responcibility. RJ _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 35
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 20:40:09 -0500
>>> From: "loriandleo" <loriandleo at ohiohills.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>> Message-ID: <011101cce539$e9e50a20$2cdbe504 at o4r3f1>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>> Hi Hannah,
>>>
>>> I'm so glad Princess did so well on the flight home. Now as far as
>> Princess
>>> goes I would follow the recommendations of what your vet told you to do.
>>> Good luck and I hope Princess feels better soon. Take care.
>>>
>>> Lori and the Gipper
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 36
>>> Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 01:53:58 +0000 (GMT)
>>> From: t21114 at optonline.net
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>> Message-ID: <e651ecee2a7fb.4f308436 at optonline.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>
>>> hi Hannah,
>>> Glad you trip home with Princess was good. Just be patient with her as
>>> everything is new to her and she doesn't know what's going on. New place
>> and
>>> new people.
>>> Marilyn and Anna
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Hannah Chadwick
>>> Date: Monday, February 6, 2012 7:53 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>
>>>> Yeah, I'll start feeding her the recommended food tonight. I
>>>> just wanted to
>>>> know what everyone else's thoughts are on this.
>>>> Otherwise, Princess is doing great and continues to amaze me
>>>> everyday. She's
>>>> so aadorable! *grin* :)
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On Behalf
>>>> Of Larry D. Keeler
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 4:50 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>
>>>> If the vet recommends it, well that's what I would do! Holly
>>>> had some
>>>> issues when we got home but they only lasted a week or so.
>>>> Also, when we go
>>>> somewhere for the weekend, sometimes Holly wouldn't eat much.
>>>> Se4nce she
>>>> drinks, I don't worry about her because she scarfs when she gets home!
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick"
>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>> Users'"
>>>>
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 6:30 PM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Hi all,
>>>> > Flying back to California with Princess was easy; she did a
>>>> fantastic
>>>> > job, and you would have thought she's done that all her life
>>>> *smile*.> Since we got back, Princess hasn't been eating much
>>>> and I believe it's
>>>> > due to all the changes - time difference, new environment,
>>>> etc. I gave
>>>> > her a couple of saltine crackers because my trainer asked me
>>>> not to
>>>> > feed her the night prior to coming home, but she threw up on
>>>> Friday
>>>> > night when we got back. I went to Petco on Saturday to get her
>>>> milk
>>>> > bone treats and gave her a couple on that day because we had
>>>> been
>>>> > super busy and she did well despite all the changes. However,
>>>> on
>>>> > Saturday night she started having very soft stool and by
>>>> yesterday,
>>>> > she was having diarrhea. I took her to the vet this morning
>>>> because I
>>>> > got very worried.
>>>> > The vet said everything's ok, and that I should put her on
>>>> white rice
>>>> > and boiled chicken mixed with low-fat cottage cheese for a few
>>>> days
>>>> > because it will help her stool go back to normal. I feel a
>>>> little
>>>> > hesitant about this because my trainers mentioned again and
>>>> again that
>>>> > we shouldn't feed them anything besides the food they are used
>>>> to having.
>>>> What do you all think?
>>>> > Should I go ahead and give her rice with boiled chicken and
>>>> cottage
>>>> > cheese or should I keep her on science diet (which is the food
>>>> they
>>>> > have been eating)? I would love to hear feedback!
>>>> > Cheers, Hannah
>>>> >
>>>> >
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>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 37
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 21:07:53 -0500
>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>> Message-ID: <7B2E2A14BC7048C0BA7B341D4C654721 at Babylon5>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=response
>>>
>>> yea, but Larry, you need to remember, they got gaters in them there
>>> glades
>>> lol
>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 38
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 21:11:22 -0500
>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>> Message-ID: <F0B7E49242F24C78ADBCB3D45BE332F8 at Babylon5>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=response
>>>
>>> what a how-d-do, bet he loved that
>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 39
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 21:12:05 -0500
>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>> Message-ID: <2A902EDA07834170B923047BF1A5148B at Babylon5>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=response
>>>
>>> bite me lolol
>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 40
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 21:14:11 -0500
>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>> Message-ID: <E0296F5BC609475DBB33E60BF96A4264 at Babylon5>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=original
>>>
>>> did she ever have milk bones at the school?
>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 41
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 21:16:43 -0500
>>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>> Message-ID: <777EA0DE56CB46B49D8106AF668A0DE9 at hometwxakonvzn>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=response
>>>
>>> Gaters love them some human, and guide dog on top of that if you're not
>>> carefull RJ
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 9:07 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>
>>>
>>>> yea, but Larry, you need to remember, they got gaters in them there
>> glades
>>>>
>>>> lol
>>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 42
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 21:20:47 -0500
>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>> Message-ID: <05B78F64214A4E7AB5B3C2625678BA05 at yourec0540d030>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=original
>>>
>>> Well, the dog is normal! The sniffer is online!
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 7:58 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>
>>>
>>>> Princess loves to sniff everywhere and that's the very first thing she
>> did
>>>> when we got home.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>>>> Of Larry D. Keeler
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 4:56 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>
>>>> First thing Holly did, when we got home was run in my sons room and
>>>> dump!
>>>> No, she had been out but when we got back, it rained for 3 days and I'm
>>>> not
>>>> sure if she was nervous or if she just didn't feel like going out in
>>>> the
>>>> rain! But, that stopped really quick!
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jessica Pitzer" <rolosgirl at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 6:37 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I would do the chicken, it will definitely help her tummy, and in 2 or
>>>>> 3 days you can start slowly start mixing the science diet back in with
>>>>>the rice.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/6/12, Hannah Chadwick <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> Flying back to California with Princess was easy; she did a fantastic
>>>>>> job, and you would have thought she's done that all her life *smile*.
>>>>>> Since we got back, Princess hasn't been eating much and I believe
>>>>>> it's due to all the changes - time difference, new environment, etc.
>>>>>> I gave her a couple of saltine crackers because my trainer asked me
>>>>>> not to feed her the night prior to coming home, but she threw up on
>>>>>> Friday night when we got back. I went to Petco on Saturday to get her
>>>>>> milk bone treats and gave her a couple on that day because we had
>>>>>> been super busy and she did well despite all the changes. However, on
>>>>>> Saturday night she started having very soft stool and by yesterday,
>>>>>> she was having diarrhea. I took her to the vet this morning because I
>>>>>> got very worried.
>>>>>> The vet said everything's ok, and that I should put her on white rice
>>>>>> and boiled chicken mixed with low-fat cottage cheese for a few days
>>>>>> because it will help her stool go back to normal. I feel a little
>>>>>> hesitant about this because my trainers mentioned again and again
>>>>>> that we shouldn't feed them anything besides the food they are used
>>>>>> to having. What do you all think?
>>>>>> Should I go ahead and give her rice with boiled chicken and cottage
>>>>>> cheese or should I keep her on science diet (which is the food they
>>>>>> have been eating)? I would love to hear feedback!
>>>>>> Cheers, Hannah
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>> Message: 43
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 21:22:58 -0500
>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>> Message-ID: <9432D2FC6DFA426D83D7028ED48870B6 at yourec0540d030>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
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>>>
>>> Well, isn't Lynard a labragator?
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 9:07 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>
>>>
>>>> yea, but Larry, you need to remember, they got gaters in them there
>> glades
>>>>
>>>> lol
>>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>>
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>>> Message: 44
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 21:23:33 -0500
>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
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>>>
>>> Not!!
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 9:11 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>
>>>
>>>> what a how-d-do, bet he loved that William And LD Lynard
>>>>
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>>> Message: 45
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 21:24:04 -0500
>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
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>>>
>>> I'll leave that to Lynard!
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 9:12 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>
>>>
>>>> bite me lolol William And LD Lynard
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>>> Message: 46
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 21:27:33 -0500
>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>> Message-ID: <599BF7133C3E49FB834201E5005F4AF7 at Babylon5>
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>>>
>>> labrigater or labricarpet depending on what time it is lol
>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 47
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 21:30:26 -0500
>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
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>>>
>>> he don't bite, he just licks and licks and licks lol
>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 48
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:58:07 -0700
>>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>> Message-ID: <FEFFCF640DEC457696CF8FE3C390ABB3 at bibi>
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>>>
>>> Hi, Hannah,
>>> Yes, it is all right to feed her the white rice whith boiled chicken and
>>> cottage cheese.
>>> Dogs can eat that directly.
>>> Other types of human foods they can have are Golden Delicious and Granny
>>> Smith's apples, fresh carrots, green beans, spinach and bananas.
>>> They can also have baby snack sized carrots.
>>> When dealing with the fresh carrots and green beans, peel the skin on
>>> the
>>> outtside off and chop them into tiny pieces.
>>> If you should use canned carrots, sweet peas and green beans, open the
>>> can
>>> halfway to drain the preserves liquid out before giving them to her.
>>> Same thing goes with canned spinach.
>>> If you prefer the frozen peas and spinach, give her a very small amount.
>>> As for the Golden Delicious and Granny Smith's apples, just peel the
>>> skin
>>> off on the outtside, remove the core in the middle with the seeds and
>>> chop
>>> it into small pieces for her to chew on.
>>> Avoid giving her red apples as they are extremely sweet and too soft for
>> the
>>> dog to digest.
>>> Bananas are also good because of the patasium, (paticium) but only if
>>> your
>>> vet recommends it.
>>> As for the science diet, if you choose to stick with that food, be very
>>> careful with it as it is very rich on the dog's stomach.
>>> This means that if you were to do a test with the food by soaking it and
>> it
>>> turns into a gravy like substance, it's really rich.
>>> With foods that are rich, the dog would only be able to have a half cup
>>> of
>>> the food unless you mix it up with another dry dog food.
>>> Yes, it's true depending on the trainer that trains your dog, they'll
>>> tell
>>> you something different, but my advice is always listen to your vet on
>> what
>>> they have to say.
>>> They will get to know your dog more.
>>> Odie has a sensitive stomach, so he can't have anything that is very
>>> rich
>>> where it will turn into a gravy like paste.
>>> I learned the hard way as back when he was eating Blue Buffalo with
>>> brown
>>> rice, chicken and sweet potatoe, it tore his stomach up bad to where he
>> had
>>> constant gas.
>>> He continued to eat the food, but I had to add another dry dog food to
>>> it
>> so
>>> he wouldn't have that awful mash potatoish stool.
>>> Although I'm sure others on the list may have different views, feelings
>>> or
>>> opinions, I still say definitely stay on top of communicating with your
>>> vet.
>>> Yes, stress can be a major factor for when it's a new environment and
>>> the
>>> best you can do is give her time to adjust.
>>> I've worked with guide dogs off and on for almost twelve years.
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> Bibi, husband Dale and Odie
>>> medical alert service dog
>>> the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 49
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 20:07:54 -0700
>>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>>> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
>>> Subject: [nagdu] My Adventure and Odie's new bone
>>> Message-ID: <906BE1D47AF34A6F85FE2F2559703AA1 at bibi>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>> Hi, all,
>>> Today was my adventure outtside, especially after being kept indoors for
>>> over seventy-two hours, three days.
>>> My friend Amanda Dreher and I both left our working dogs at home and
>>> took
>>> the plunge upon the challenge that lie ahead of us.
>>> That challenge was having to climb over big mounds of snow drifts that
>> were
>>> everywhere.
>>> Even when I went outtside to catch the route38 bus, I had to climb over
>> the
>>> large snow bank and stand in the gutter to wait for the bus.
>>> Once the bus pulled up, I flagged the driver down to indicated I wanted
>> him.
>>> While out and about, I bought Amanda her birthday present which was a
>>> box
>> of
>>> chocolate Truffles from cee's Candy and then did another purchase at
>> Petco.
>>> I ended up buying some nature's Miracle to have around in case Odie were
>> to
>>> have another indoor accident or get sick.
>>> I ended up buying him a bone filled with peanutbutter filling on the
>> inside.
>>> He loves those kind of bones and enjoys licking the inside filling out
>>> of
>>> it.
>>> It also does help keep his teeth clean, the outtside part as when he is
>>> chewing on it, the scraping will get the tardor off.
>>> Of course, Dale and I still brush his teeth with using a small amount of
>>> baking soda by turning it into a paste.
>>> He doesn't like that, but at least it helps prevent build up or vacteria
>> in
>>> his mouth.
>>> I usually don't buy a bone on a continuous basis, but will get Odie one
>> once
>>> in a great while.
>>> He has plenty from Dog Savvy that are organtic and a few from Petsmart
>> that
>>> have sweet potatoe filling on the inside.
>>> Thankfully, I won't have to venture back out again until Thursday.
>>> I'll admit that the February, 2012 is the worst blizard for its time as
>>> of
>>> right now.
>>> Still, I'm greatful for all of that snow to help clean the air up.
>>> Bibi, husband Dale and Odie
>>> medical alert service dog
>>> the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 50
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 21:39:21 -0600
>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update
>>> Message-ID: <E84F2944-445A-4FC7-ADE4-BA68B240F218 at gmail.com>
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>>>
>>> Hmmm, that conjures up picts. But would your dog do that while in
>>> harness
>> at
>>> the wedding? LOL.
>>>
>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Jessica wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All
>>>> The doggies will not be in the wedding as my dog sort of likes to hump
>>>> other doggies. Gdb is going to work on this when they come to work with
>> me
>>>> after I get settled there and have a bit of mobility haha. I lived in
>>>> Orlando for 3 years while I worked at a hotel but moved back to my home
>>>> town before getting my doggie. Thanks all for the responses.
>>>> Jess
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:02 PM
>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jessica,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for the update. Congrats on the upcoming wedding. Since both
>> of
>>>>> you have guides, will you all be having the wedding with your pups
>>>>> involved?
>>>>> More curious, sorry if its too personal. I am assuming your going to
>>>>> be
>>>>> moving to D.C., well welcome to the northeast!
>>>>>
>>>>> I am Marsha, working my 6 yo GSD from Seeing Eye. Emma and I, live in
>> PA,
>>>>> in
>>>>> the greater Philadelphia area, with my husband and kitty, Gracie. Emma
>>>>> and
>>>>> I, are full time students at Temple University.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you need anything, please don't hesitate to ask.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marsha, Co-Moderator
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Jessica
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 11:36 AM
>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Update
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi All
>>>>> As I was going through message it has been a while since I have
>>>>> posted.
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> Jessica and have Saunders. He is a yellow lab from GDB's Oregon
>>>>> campus.
>>>>> He
>>>>> is a cuddle bunny but then can be totally hyper. Right now am planning
>> my
>>>>> wedding. I am getting married in April and my fianc?'s dog came from
>>>>> the
>>>>> same place but is 4 years older than mine. I am nervous because am
>> moving
>>>>> from a small town in Fl to Washington Dc's metro area but am excited
>>>>> to
>>>>> really put Mr. Saunders to work. He has done great on our visits and I
>>>>> even
>>>>> think he works better when he is there. He just seems to be more
>>>>> focused
>>>>> and
>>>>> not as sniffy as when he walks down these roads at home. Hope everyone
>> is
>>>>> doing well
>>>>> Jessica
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>>> Message: 51
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 21:40:10 -0600
>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>> Message-ID: <0D04B330-2924-4872-AF33-DE2FE49B2331 at gmail.com>
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>>> Well, I didn't want one either, but when I did decide my decision wasn't
>>> based on if anybody thought I needed one or not. The decision was fully
>>> mine, and I got it because of pain in my hands.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cindy, before I got Holly, everyone would always ask me why I didn't
>>>> get
>> a
>>>> dog! I just didn't want one at the time and that was all there was to
>> it!
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 5:38 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> First of all, I think it is your call if you want a dog or need one.
>>>>> If
>>>>> you are good with a cane, then you should continue using it. If you
>>>>> want
>>>>> a dog, you should have one. I'm not sure how the dog would make
>>>>> transportation easier unless you would feel more confident walking if
>> you
>>>>> had a dog. If you believe that's true, a dog is good. Dogs are a lot
>>>>> of
>>>>> responsibility, but if you love dogs and feel it is worth it to you,
>>>>> for
>>>>> me it would seem you should consider getting a dog. I didn't catch how
>>>>> you really feel about it yourself. A lot of people think the dog is
>>>>> the
>>>>> answer for all blind people. The dog is not the answer for all blind
>>>>> people. My husband doesn't use one because he says he doesn't have the
>>>>> patience and would rather use a cane. What it really boils down to is
>> you
>>>>> need to consider the pros and cons; if you don't want a dog then don't
>>>>> get it. It's not an excuse and I don't know what they mean when they
>>>>> say
>>>>> you aren't trying. You aren't trying to do what?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 3:38 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both
>>>>>> tell
>>>>>> me they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in Okeechobee
>>>>>> Florida. We do not have any public transpertation. I practually have
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> be driven to church, the store etc. Others from people at church are
>>>>>> telling me to stop making excuses, and get a dog, but when I tell
>>>>>> them
>> I
>>>>>> am a cane traveler, they accuse me of not trying. I tell them it is a
>>>>>> huge responcibility, and they tell me that it is just me making
>> excuses.
>>>>>> Am I making excuses? I do not have the finational means in order to
>> care
>>>>>> for a guide dog. I'm only just making excuses. What do you as guide
>>>>>> dog
>>>>>> users think? I would have to feed the dog, take it for check ups. It
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> an animal, and it is a responcibility. RJ
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>>>
>>> Message: 52
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 21:48:45 -0600
>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>> Message-ID: <F7E0678B-EB49-4AEC-B9CC-20B1E2F30D56 at gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>
>>> Vets are familiar with guide dogs. They sometimes think they are really
>>> amazing; they are just well trained and some of their staff is more apt
>>> to
>>> think that. Some people really think because the dog is a dog it
>> robotically
>>> does the things you want it to do, but it is still a dog.
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 7:16 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why do the schools tell people guide dogs arn't robots? This I would
>> think
>>>> is a no brainer. How do you expline to a vet, about your dog? RJ
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry D. Keeler"
>> <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 7:36 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> In my case, I just like dogs! I find the responsibility no big deal.
>>>>> Well, sometimes the money is squeezed a bit! I find that I can move
>> much
>>>>> faster with a dog. I already move pretty good with a cane but I can
>>>>> run
>>>>> with Holly! But, if you don't want the responsibility that could be a
>>>>> big deal!
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "RJ Sandefur"
>>>>> <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 4:38 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both
>>>>>> tell
>>>>>> me they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in Okeechobee
>>>>>> Florida. We do not have any public transpertation. I practually have
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> be driven to church, the store etc. Others from people at church are
>>>>>> telling me to stop making excuses, and get a dog, but when I tell
>>>>>> them
>> I
>>>>>> am a cane traveler, they accuse me of not trying. I tell them it is a
>>>>>> huge responcibility, and they tell me that it is just me making
>> excuses.
>>>>>> Am I making excuses? I do not have the finational means in order to
>> care
>>>>>> for a guide dog. I'm only just making excuses. What do you as guide
>>>>>> dog
>>>>>> users think? I would have to feed the dog, take it for check ups. It
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> an animal, and it is a responcibility. RJ
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>>> Message: 53
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:51:01 -0800
>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
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>>> William,
>>> I don't believe she's ever had milk bones before...
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of William Vandervest
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 6:14 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>
>>> did she ever have milk bones at the school?
>>> William And LD Lynard
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>>> Message: 54
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:56:10 -0800
>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
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>>> thank you Bibi! This is definitely helpful *smile*.
>>> All the best, Hannah
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Criminal Justice Major
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 6:58 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>
>>> Hi, Hannah,
>>> Yes, it is all right to feed her the white rice whith boiled chicken and
>>> cottage cheese.
>>> Dogs can eat that directly.
>>> Other types of human foods they can have are Golden Delicious and Granny
>>> Smith's apples, fresh carrots, green beans, spinach and bananas.
>>> They can also have baby snack sized carrots.
>>> When dealing with the fresh carrots and green beans, peel the skin on
>>> the
>>> outtside off and chop them into tiny pieces.
>>> If you should use canned carrots, sweet peas and green beans, open the
>>> can
>>> halfway to drain the preserves liquid out before giving them to her.
>>> Same thing goes with canned spinach.
>>> If you prefer the frozen peas and spinach, give her a very small amount.
>>> As for the Golden Delicious and Granny Smith's apples, just peel the
>>> skin
>>> off on the outtside, remove the core in the middle with the seeds and
>>> chop
>>> it into small pieces for her to chew on.
>>> Avoid giving her red apples as they are extremely sweet and too soft for
>> the
>>> dog to digest.
>>> Bananas are also good because of the patasium, (paticium) but only if
>>> your
>>> vet recommends it.
>>> As for the science diet, if you choose to stick with that food, be very
>>> careful with it as it is very rich on the dog's stomach.
>>> This means that if you were to do a test with the food by soaking it and
>> it
>>> turns into a gravy like substance, it's really rich.
>>> With foods that are rich, the dog would only be able to have a half cup
>>> of
>>> the food unless you mix it up with another dry dog food.
>>> Yes, it's true depending on the trainer that trains your dog, they'll
>>> tell
>>> you something different, but my advice is always listen to your vet on
>> what
>>> they have to say.
>>> They will get to know your dog more.
>>> Odie has a sensitive stomach, so he can't have anything that is very
>>> rich
>>> where it will turn into a gravy like paste.
>>> I learned the hard way as back when he was eating Blue Buffalo with
>>> brown
>>> rice, chicken and sweet potatoe, it tore his stomach up bad to where he
>> had
>>> constant gas.
>>> He continued to eat the food, but I had to add another dry dog food to
>>> it
>> so
>>> he wouldn't have that awful mash potatoish stool.
>>> Although I'm sure others on the list may have different views, feelings
>>> or
>>> opinions, I still say definitely stay on top of communicating with your
>>> vet.
>>> Yes, stress can be a major factor for when it's a new environment and
>>> the
>>> best you can do is give her time to adjust.
>>> I've worked with guide dogs off and on for almost twelve years.
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> Bibi, husband Dale and Odie
>>> medical alert service dog
>>> the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
>>>
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>> Message: 8
>> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 10:11:03 -0500
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The Room
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>> Ugh, I've been in "the room" once. I vowed never to end up there again.
>> I've been avoiding flying as much as possible. It's become very
>> unpleasant. We travellers are not valued customers; we're cattle to be
>> herded about as our masters please.
>> I always ask at the gate if it's the right flight, and make frequent use
>> of the toll-free number to check flight status. I think one can get a
>> text message about flight changes as well. I have heard announcements,
>> but
>> sometimes they're the announcement saying my flight is boarding, and I
>> have to run like mad somewhere I'm not.
>> I feel your pain.
>> Tracy
>>
>>> Yesterday was the first time I was subjected to the United Airlines
>>> warehouse for people with disabilities in Chicago. It was humiliating to
>>> say the least.
>>>
>>> So, I have a question for you. If your plane departure changes gates, do
>>> they flash it on a screen only or do they say it. Last time I was in
>>> Chicago, I went to my gate alone, but if there hadn't been a guy going
>>> to
>>> Des Moines on the same flight, I wouldn't have known they changed gates.
>>>
>>> Cindy
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>> Message: 9
>> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 16:02:01 +0000
>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog food and Re: flying, changes, and vet visit
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>> My husband almost ate the dog treats at my parents house thinking it was
>> human beef jerky.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of William Vandervest
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 8:33 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog food and Re: flying, changes, and vet visit
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>> have Carol write really big and bold print DOG TREATS, not for wrestler
>> consumption
>> William And LD Lynard
>>
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>> Message: 10
>> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 10:12:46 -0600
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog food and Re: flying, changes, and vet visit
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>> Once I was working the NAGDU Table at convention and there were some such
>> treats and a guy thought it was for people. LOL.
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>> On Feb 8, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:
>>
>>> My husband almost ate the dog treats at my parents house thinking it was
>>> human beef jerky.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> Behalf
>>> Of William Vandervest
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 8:33 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog food and Re: flying, changes, and vet visit
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>>> have Carol write really big and bold print DOG TREATS, not for wrestler
>>> consumption
>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>
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