[nagdu] Doggy B.O.

Tue Feb 28 04:36:29 UTC 2012

If I can get him to stay still.  He will stay with the leash on, because he 
knows I can give him a correction. However, the leash has to be in my hand 
which precludes me brushing or washing him. I brush him every day, however, 
I have to hold him to do so. And I have to stop and revisit it a lot because 
he tries to walk off.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Hooper" <hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggy B.O.

> Hello Mark:
>
> How we love our shepherd kids. Anyway, it seems as though he just doesn't 
> relish the thought of your hands in that area--maybe try some 
> behavior/obedience exercises? I taught Bailey a command which means "stand 
> up", for example. If Bailey were exhibiting this behavior, I would tell 
> him to stand up, praise him, etc. After a while, I would add the "rest" 
> command to make him stand still. So then, if he rebels and sits down 
> despite my giving him the rest command, that would be when I would give 
> him a correction and start over. I would do this until I could wash the 
> area with him standing. I never let him do anything without permission--if 
> he started walking away after I told him to "rest", that would be means 
> for a correction, followed by praise when he displays appropriate 
> behavior. I never let him get away with trying to dictate what he wants. 
> On a further note, have you tried cleaning him while he is laying down? 
> Bailey's skin rash is near that general area, so when I wash it, I just 
> have him lay on his side and make him "rest"; however, Bailey is a very 
> accepting dog once he realizes that I mean business and will keep at it 
> all night until he complies. That area is very easy to reach when a dog is 
> laying on its side--unless he is in pain, you shouldn't have to hold him 
> down or anything, thus leaving both hands free. Bailey is very easygoing 
> for the most part.
> Shepherds have their quirks and can be stubborn, but that makes it all the 
> more fun in my opinion--I consider it an impressive feat to not only win 
> over a shepherd, but to master it as well! Muhahahahaha (cue evil music in 
> a minor key).
> Sincerely,
> Robert Hooper
> Hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu
> The Ohio State University
> 0653 Buckeye-Cuyahoga CT
> 653 Cuyahoga Court
> Columbus, Ohio 43210
> (740) 856-8195
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Mark J. Cadigan
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 12:27 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggy B.O.
>
> Robert,
>
>
>
> His response is to sit down, and refuse to stand up. He will just stare at 
> you doing his little doggy laughing. If I force him to stand up I don't 
> have a free hand to wash it. If I let go, he walks away. He doesn't make 
> any noises or byte or anything bad like that.
>
>
>
> I will be able to get it when I am grooming him because if he stands up, I 
> can spray it with him little hose in the tub. If he sits down, he will sit 
> in the sudsy water and the tub has a sort of tie down so I don't have to 
> worry about him walking off.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Hooper" <hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggy B.O.
>
>
>> What is his response when you try to wash the area? If he won't let you
>> use a wipe on it, how will he respond when you try to bathe it?
>> I guess I'm confused by the "won't let me" part--does he squeal? Bite?
>> Bark? Try to run away? Some dogs are just uncomfortable with their
>> handlers trying to do something and will try to get out of it by
>> dramatizing--especially shepherds. I remember at TSE, we had to practice
>> giving our dogs pills--they were Vitamin E pills. Bailey didn't like my
>> hand down his throat, so he would squirm and wriggle and make it seem 
>> like
>> I was making him do something horrible. However, after I communicated to
>> him that I didn't care how much he complained and did it anyway, he
>> eventually realized that if he accepted it quietly, things would go 
>> better
>> for him--usually with lots of praise after the pill was swallowed. Many
>> people have told me that shepherds are drama queens. This seems to be
>> true--at least in Bailey's case--he can make a stepped on tail sound like
>> a severed tail. Bailey has also had the runs before, getting some
>> chocolate pudding under his tail. This did make him quite aromatic.
>> However, I calmly laid him down and cleaned the area with a warm soapy
>> rag. The dog shouldn't be "not letting you" do anything--you are its
>> master; however, if you believe that the area is actually painful and 
>> that
>> he is not just trying to get out of an uncomfortable experience, then
>> never mind. Just some food for thought.
>> Robert Hooper
>> Hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu
>> The Ohio State University
>> 0653 Buckeye-Cuyahoga CT
>> 653 Cuyahoga Court
>> Columbus, Ohio 43210
>> (740) 856-8195
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Mark J. Cadigan
>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:34 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggy B.O.
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks everyone for your response, I will ask the vet. I think it may be
>> an anal gland or skin issue. I am going to take him to the groomers
>> tomorrow, and see if I can solve it by washing him. The issue arose on
>> Friday when he got extremely sick and had the runs wicked badly, for some
>> inexplicable reason. I am hoping it is an issue of having some stuff 
>> stuck
>> in his thick fur. He won't let me brush near or use one of those pet 
>> wipes
>> on the area in question. I am hoping that if when I bathe him if I pay
>> particular attention to his belly, the inside of the back legs, and under
>> the tail, I will hopefully alleviate the smell. If this does not meet 
>> with
>> success, I will bring him to the vet.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>
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