[nagdu] Doggy B.O.

Tue Feb 28 14:55:50 UTC 2012

I don't know if you remember, but he hates being on tie down, and will bight 
the leash or even Steele cable tie down in half to get away.

I have destroyed one supposedly indestructible mettle tie down as well as 3 
leashes I was using for makeshift tie downs.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggy B.O.

> Do you have a place in there where you could put him on a tie down?  I 
> have to do that even with my little dog.  At bath or brush time, if I make 
> the mistake of brushing Holly firstt, The little imp Pez disappears!  I 
> mean he really disappears!  That old boy should have been named Houdini! 
> I can't figure out where he goes but when everything calms down and hes 
> pretty sure its over he comes sneaking out of the wood work.  So,, I have 
> to get him first and put him on a tie down.  Then, I have to hav e Holly 
> stay out a minute.  She thinks she should help!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggy B.O.
>
>
>> If I can get him to stay still.  He will stay with the leash on, because 
>> he knows I can give him a correction. However, the leash has to be in my 
>> hand which precludes me brushing or washing him. I brush him every day, 
>> however, I have to hold him to do so. And I have to stop and revisit it a 
>> lot because he tries to walk off.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Robert Hooper" <hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggy B.O.
>>
>>
>>> Hello Mark:
>>>
>>> How we love our shepherd kids. Anyway, it seems as though he just 
>>> doesn't relish the thought of your hands in that area--maybe try some 
>>> behavior/obedience exercises? I taught Bailey a command which means 
>>> "stand up", for example. If Bailey were exhibiting this behavior, I 
>>> would tell him to stand up, praise him, etc. After a while, I would add 
>>> the "rest" command to make him stand still. So then, if he rebels and 
>>> sits down despite my giving him the rest command, that would be when I 
>>> would give him a correction and start over. I would do this until I 
>>> could wash the area with him standing. I never let him do anything 
>>> without permission--if he started walking away after I told him to 
>>> "rest", that would be means for a correction, followed by praise when he 
>>> displays appropriate behavior. I never let him get away with trying to 
>>> dictate what he wants. On a further note, have you tried cleaning him 
>>> while he is laying down? Bailey's skin rash is near that general area, 
>>> so when I wash it, I just have him lay on his side and make him "rest"; 
>>> however, Bailey is a very accepting dog once he realizes that I mean 
>>> business and will keep at it all night until he complies. That area is 
>>> very easy to reach when a dog is laying on its side--unless he is in 
>>> pain, you shouldn't have to hold him down or anything, thus leaving both 
>>> hands free. Bailey is very easygoing for the most part.
>>> Shepherds have their quirks and can be stubborn, but that makes it all 
>>> the more fun in my opinion--I consider it an impressive feat to not only 
>>> win over a shepherd, but to master it as well! Muhahahahaha (cue evil 
>>> music in a minor key).
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Robert Hooper
>>> Hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu
>>> The Ohio State University
>>> 0653 Buckeye-Cuyahoga CT
>>> 653 Cuyahoga Court
>>> Columbus, Ohio 43210
>>> (740) 856-8195
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of Mark J. Cadigan
>>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 12:27 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggy B.O.
>>>
>>> Robert,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> His response is to sit down, and refuse to stand up. He will just stare 
>>> at you doing his little doggy laughing. If I force him to stand up I 
>>> don't have a free hand to wash it. If I let go, he walks away. He 
>>> doesn't make any noises or byte or anything bad like that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I will be able to get it when I am grooming him because if he stands up, 
>>> I can spray it with him little hose in the tub. If he sits down, he will 
>>> sit in the sudsy water and the tub has a sort of tie down so I don't 
>>> have to worry about him walking off.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Robert Hooper" <hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:51 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggy B.O.
>>>
>>>
>>>> What is his response when you try to wash the area? If he won't let you
>>>> use a wipe on it, how will he respond when you try to bathe it?
>>>> I guess I'm confused by the "won't let me" part--does he squeal? Bite?
>>>> Bark? Try to run away? Some dogs are just uncomfortable with their
>>>> handlers trying to do something and will try to get out of it by
>>>> dramatizing--especially shepherds. I remember at TSE, we had to 
>>>> practice
>>>> giving our dogs pills--they were Vitamin E pills. Bailey didn't like my
>>>> hand down his throat, so he would squirm and wriggle and make it seem 
>>>> like
>>>> I was making him do something horrible. However, after I communicated 
>>>> to
>>>> him that I didn't care how much he complained and did it anyway, he
>>>> eventually realized that if he accepted it quietly, things would go 
>>>> better
>>>> for him--usually with lots of praise after the pill was swallowed. Many
>>>> people have told me that shepherds are drama queens. This seems to be
>>>> true--at least in Bailey's case--he can make a stepped on tail sound 
>>>> like
>>>> a severed tail. Bailey has also had the runs before, getting some
>>>> chocolate pudding under his tail. This did make him quite aromatic.
>>>> However, I calmly laid him down and cleaned the area with a warm soapy
>>>> rag. The dog shouldn't be "not letting you" do anything--you are its
>>>> master; however, if you believe that the area is actually painful and 
>>>> that
>>>> he is not just trying to get out of an uncomfortable experience, then
>>>> never mind. Just some food for thought.
>>>> Robert Hooper
>>>> Hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu
>>>> The Ohio State University
>>>> 0653 Buckeye-Cuyahoga CT
>>>> 653 Cuyahoga Court
>>>> Columbus, Ohio 43210
>>>> (740) 856-8195
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Mark J. Cadigan
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:34 AM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggy B.O.
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks everyone for your response, I will ask the vet. I think it may 
>>>> be
>>>> an anal gland or skin issue. I am going to take him to the groomers
>>>> tomorrow, and see if I can solve it by washing him. The issue arose on
>>>> Friday when he got extremely sick and had the runs wicked badly, for 
>>>> some
>>>> inexplicable reason. I am hoping it is an issue of having some stuff 
>>>> stuck
>>>> in his thick fur. He won't let me brush near or use one of those pet 
>>>> wipes
>>>> on the area in question. I am hoping that if when I bathe him if I pay
>>>> particular attention to his belly, the inside of the back legs, and 
>>>> under
>>>> the tail, I will hopefully alleviate the smell. If this does not meet 
>>>> with
>>>> success, I will bring him to the vet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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