[nagdu] Doggy B.O.

Larry D. Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Tue Feb 28 15:06:43 UTC 2012 

Oh, that's right!  You have Furry Jaws!!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggy B.O.


>I don't know if you remember, but he hates being on tie down, and will 
>bight the leash or even Steele cable tie down in half to get away.
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> I have destroyed one supposedly indestructible mettle tie down as well as 
> 3 leashes I was using for makeshift tie downs.
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggy B.O.
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>> Do you have a place in there where you could put him on a tie down?  I 
>> have to do that even with my little dog.  At bath or brush time, if I 
>> make the mistake of brushing Holly firstt, The little imp Pez disappears! 
>> I mean he really disappears!  That old boy should have been named 
>> Houdini! I can't figure out where he goes but when everything calms down 
>> and hes pretty sure its over he comes sneaking out of the wood work. 
>> So,, I have to get him first and put him on a tie down.  Then, I have to 
>> hav e Holly stay out a minute.  She thinks she should help!
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggy B.O.
>>
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>>> If I can get him to stay still.  He will stay with the leash on, because 
>>> he knows I can give him a correction. However, the leash has to be in my 
>>> hand which precludes me brushing or washing him. I brush him every day, 
>>> however, I have to hold him to do so. And I have to stop and revisit it 
>>> a lot because he tries to walk off.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Robert Hooper" <hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:27 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggy B.O.
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>>>
>>>> Hello Mark:
>>>>
>>>> How we love our shepherd kids. Anyway, it seems as though he just 
>>>> doesn't relish the thought of your hands in that area--maybe try some 
>>>> behavior/obedience exercises? I taught Bailey a command which means 
>>>> "stand up", for example. If Bailey were exhibiting this behavior, I 
>>>> would tell him to stand up, praise him, etc. After a while, I would add 
>>>> the "rest" command to make him stand still. So then, if he rebels and 
>>>> sits down despite my giving him the rest command, that would be when I 
>>>> would give him a correction and start over. I would do this until I 
>>>> could wash the area with him standing. I never let him do anything 
>>>> without permission--if he started walking away after I told him to 
>>>> "rest", that would be means for a correction, followed by praise when 
>>>> he displays appropriate behavior. I never let him get away with trying 
>>>> to dictate what he wants. On a further note, have you tried cleaning 
>>>> him while he is laying down? Bailey's skin rash is near that general 
>>>> area, so when I wash it, I just have him lay on his side and make him 
>>>> "rest"; however, Bailey is a very accepting dog once he realizes that I 
>>>> mean business and will keep at it all night until he complies. That 
>>>> area is very easy to reach when a dog is laying on its side--unless he 
>>>> is in pain, you shouldn't have to hold him down or anything, thus 
>>>> leaving both hands free. Bailey is very easygoing for the most part.
>>>> Shepherds have their quirks and can be stubborn, but that makes it all 
>>>> the more fun in my opinion--I consider it an impressive feat to not 
>>>> only win over a shepherd, but to master it as well! Muhahahahaha (cue 
>>>> evil music in a minor key).
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Robert Hooper
>>>> Hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu
>>>> The Ohio State University
>>>> 0653 Buckeye-Cuyahoga CT
>>>> 653 Cuyahoga Court
>>>> Columbus, Ohio 43210
>>>> (740) 856-8195
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Mark J. Cadigan
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 12:27 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggy B.O.
>>>>
>>>> Robert,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> His response is to sit down, and refuse to stand up. He will just stare 
>>>> at you doing his little doggy laughing. If I force him to stand up I 
>>>> don't have a free hand to wash it. If I let go, he walks away. He 
>>>> doesn't make any noises or byte or anything bad like that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I will be able to get it when I am grooming him because if he stands 
>>>> up, I can spray it with him little hose in the tub. If he sits down, he 
>>>> will sit in the sudsy water and the tub has a sort of tie down so I 
>>>> don't have to worry about him walking off.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Robert Hooper" <hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:51 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggy B.O.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> What is his response when you try to wash the area? If he won't let 
>>>>> you
>>>>> use a wipe on it, how will he respond when you try to bathe it?
>>>>> I guess I'm confused by the "won't let me" part--does he squeal? Bite?
>>>>> Bark? Try to run away? Some dogs are just uncomfortable with their
>>>>> handlers trying to do something and will try to get out of it by
>>>>> dramatizing--especially shepherds. I remember at TSE, we had to 
>>>>> practice
>>>>> giving our dogs pills--they were Vitamin E pills. Bailey didn't like 
>>>>> my
>>>>> hand down his throat, so he would squirm and wriggle and make it seem 
>>>>> like
>>>>> I was making him do something horrible. However, after I communicated 
>>>>> to
>>>>> him that I didn't care how much he complained and did it anyway, he
>>>>> eventually realized that if he accepted it quietly, things would go 
>>>>> better
>>>>> for him--usually with lots of praise after the pill was swallowed. 
>>>>> Many
>>>>> people have told me that shepherds are drama queens. This seems to be
>>>>> true--at least in Bailey's case--he can make a stepped on tail sound 
>>>>> like
>>>>> a severed tail. Bailey has also had the runs before, getting some
>>>>> chocolate pudding under his tail. This did make him quite aromatic.
>>>>> However, I calmly laid him down and cleaned the area with a warm soapy
>>>>> rag. The dog shouldn't be "not letting you" do anything--you are its
>>>>> master; however, if you believe that the area is actually painful and 
>>>>> that
>>>>> he is not just trying to get out of an uncomfortable experience, then
>>>>> never mind. Just some food for thought.
>>>>> Robert Hooper
>>>>> Hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu
>>>>> The Ohio State University
>>>>> 0653 Buckeye-Cuyahoga CT
>>>>> 653 Cuyahoga Court
>>>>> Columbus, Ohio 43210
>>>>> (740) 856-8195
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Mark J. Cadigan
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:34 AM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggy B.O.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks everyone for your response, I will ask the vet. I think it may 
>>>>> be
>>>>> an anal gland or skin issue. I am going to take him to the groomers
>>>>> tomorrow, and see if I can solve it by washing him. The issue arose on
>>>>> Friday when he got extremely sick and had the runs wicked badly, for 
>>>>> some
>>>>> inexplicable reason. I am hoping it is an issue of having some stuff 
>>>>> stuck
>>>>> in his thick fur. He won't let me brush near or use one of those pet 
>>>>> wipes
>>>>> on the area in question. I am hoping that if when I bathe him if I pay
>>>>> particular attention to his belly, the inside of the back legs, and 
>>>>> under
>>>>> the tail, I will hopefully alleviate the smell. If this does not meet 
>>>>> with
>>>>> success, I will bring him to the vet.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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