[nagdu] Doggy B.O.

Mark J. Cadigan kramc11 at gmail.com
Tue Feb 28 15:46:57 UTC 2012


Exactly!! Glad he likes me. Lol



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggy B.O.


> Oh, that's right!  You have Furry Jaws!!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggy B.O.
>
>
>>I don't know if you remember, but he hates being on tie down, and will 
>>bight the leash or even Steele cable tie down in half to get away.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have destroyed one supposedly indestructible mettle tie down as well as 
>> 3 leashes I was using for makeshift tie downs.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:38 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggy B.O.
>>
>>
>>> Do you have a place in there where you could put him on a tie down?  I 
>>> have to do that even with my little dog.  At bath or brush time, if I 
>>> make the mistake of brushing Holly firstt, The little imp Pez 
>>> disappears! I mean he really disappears!  That old boy should have been 
>>> named Houdini! I can't figure out where he goes but when everything 
>>> calms down and hes pretty sure its over he comes sneaking out of the 
>>> wood work. So,, I have to get him first and put him on a tie down. 
>>> Then, I have to hav e Holly stay out a minute.  She thinks she should 
>>> help!
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggy B.O.
>>>
>>>
>>>> If I can get him to stay still.  He will stay with the leash on, 
>>>> because he knows I can give him a correction. However, the leash has to 
>>>> be in my hand which precludes me brushing or washing him. I brush him 
>>>> every day, however, I have to hold him to do so. And I have to stop and 
>>>> revisit it a lot because he tries to walk off.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Robert Hooper" <hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:27 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggy B.O.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Mark:
>>>>>
>>>>> How we love our shepherd kids. Anyway, it seems as though he just 
>>>>> doesn't relish the thought of your hands in that area--maybe try some 
>>>>> behavior/obedience exercises? I taught Bailey a command which means 
>>>>> "stand up", for example. If Bailey were exhibiting this behavior, I 
>>>>> would tell him to stand up, praise him, etc. After a while, I would 
>>>>> add the "rest" command to make him stand still. So then, if he rebels 
>>>>> and sits down despite my giving him the rest command, that would be 
>>>>> when I would give him a correction and start over. I would do this 
>>>>> until I could wash the area with him standing. I never let him do 
>>>>> anything without permission--if he started walking away after I told 
>>>>> him to "rest", that would be means for a correction, followed by 
>>>>> praise when he displays appropriate behavior. I never let him get away 
>>>>> with trying to dictate what he wants. On a further note, have you 
>>>>> tried cleaning him while he is laying down? Bailey's skin rash is near 
>>>>> that general area, so when I wash it, I just have him lay on his side 
>>>>> and make him "rest"; however, Bailey is a very accepting dog once he 
>>>>> realizes that I mean business and will keep at it all night until he 
>>>>> complies. That area is very easy to reach when a dog is laying on its 
>>>>> side--unless he is in pain, you shouldn't have to hold him down or 
>>>>> anything, thus leaving both hands free. Bailey is very easygoing for 
>>>>> the most part.
>>>>> Shepherds have their quirks and can be stubborn, but that makes it all 
>>>>> the more fun in my opinion--I consider it an impressive feat to not 
>>>>> only win over a shepherd, but to master it as well! Muhahahahaha (cue 
>>>>> evil music in a minor key).
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> Robert Hooper
>>>>> Hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu
>>>>> The Ohio State University
>>>>> 0653 Buckeye-Cuyahoga CT
>>>>> 653 Cuyahoga Court
>>>>> Columbus, Ohio 43210
>>>>> (740) 856-8195
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Mark J. Cadigan
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 12:27 PM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggy B.O.
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> His response is to sit down, and refuse to stand up. He will just 
>>>>> stare at you doing his little doggy laughing. If I force him to stand 
>>>>> up I don't have a free hand to wash it. If I let go, he walks away. He 
>>>>> doesn't make any noises or byte or anything bad like that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I will be able to get it when I am grooming him because if he stands 
>>>>> up, I can spray it with him little hose in the tub. If he sits down, 
>>>>> he will sit in the sudsy water and the tub has a sort of tie down so I 
>>>>> don't have to worry about him walking off.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Robert Hooper" <hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:51 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggy B.O.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> What is his response when you try to wash the area? If he won't let 
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> use a wipe on it, how will he respond when you try to bathe it?
>>>>>> I guess I'm confused by the "won't let me" part--does he squeal? 
>>>>>> Bite?
>>>>>> Bark? Try to run away? Some dogs are just uncomfortable with their
>>>>>> handlers trying to do something and will try to get out of it by
>>>>>> dramatizing--especially shepherds. I remember at TSE, we had to 
>>>>>> practice
>>>>>> giving our dogs pills--they were Vitamin E pills. Bailey didn't like 
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> hand down his throat, so he would squirm and wriggle and make it seem 
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> I was making him do something horrible. However, after I communicated 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> him that I didn't care how much he complained and did it anyway, he
>>>>>> eventually realized that if he accepted it quietly, things would go 
>>>>>> better
>>>>>> for him--usually with lots of praise after the pill was swallowed. 
>>>>>> Many
>>>>>> people have told me that shepherds are drama queens. This seems to be
>>>>>> true--at least in Bailey's case--he can make a stepped on tail sound 
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> a severed tail. Bailey has also had the runs before, getting some
>>>>>> chocolate pudding under his tail. This did make him quite aromatic.
>>>>>> However, I calmly laid him down and cleaned the area with a warm 
>>>>>> soapy
>>>>>> rag. The dog shouldn't be "not letting you" do anything--you are its
>>>>>> master; however, if you believe that the area is actually painful and 
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> he is not just trying to get out of an uncomfortable experience, then
>>>>>> never mind. Just some food for thought.
>>>>>> Robert Hooper
>>>>>> Hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu
>>>>>> The Ohio State University
>>>>>> 0653 Buckeye-Cuyahoga CT
>>>>>> 653 Cuyahoga Court
>>>>>> Columbus, Ohio 43210
>>>>>> (740) 856-8195
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Mark J. Cadigan
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:34 AM
>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggy B.O.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks everyone for your response, I will ask the vet. I think it may 
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> an anal gland or skin issue. I am going to take him to the groomers
>>>>>> tomorrow, and see if I can solve it by washing him. The issue arose 
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> Friday when he got extremely sick and had the runs wicked badly, for 
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> inexplicable reason. I am hoping it is an issue of having some stuff 
>>>>>> stuck
>>>>>> in his thick fur. He won't let me brush near or use one of those pet 
>>>>>> wipes
>>>>>> on the area in question. I am hoping that if when I bathe him if I 
>>>>>> pay
>>>>>> particular attention to his belly, the inside of the back legs, and 
>>>>>> under
>>>>>> the tail, I will hopefully alleviate the smell. If this does not meet 
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> success, I will bring him to the vet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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