[nagdu] When is the Connection Too Much?

Doug Parisian eggmann at shaw.ca
Wed Jan 11 04:48:20 UTC 2012


If anyone ever kicked any of my dogs, one of for certain would be most 
seriously injured, not including the dog.

Doug: Do they make crates big enough for stupid humans?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] When is the Connection Too Much?


>I educate my guests.  I feel that when you come to my home you're coming to 
>Holly's home as well.  I educate them about food, toys and treats.  Also 
>playing.  If they don't follow the rules, then Holly goes in her crate or 
>on a short leash.  And if the guest doesn't listen to what I have to say 
>and for instance tries to feed the dogs people food or bbones, well, I tend 
>not to invite them over much.  I feel dogs are sort of like kids.  If you 
>can't follow the rules on how I'd like you to treat them, how could I trust 
>them to listen to what I wanted them to deal with my kids!  I had a woman 
>come over to my house once.  She was a friend of the family.  But she never 
>came to the house before.  I was stand on the porch when my little pet came 
>out. Well, sort of snuck out when I reached in for something.  She was 
>dressed nice and he pawed her for attention.  My intention was to take him 
>back inside and put him in the back room sence he was never crate trained. 
>Before I could grab him up, she kicked him.  She has never been near my 
>house again!  I would have peed on her leg if I could but I didn't think of 
>it.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 7:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] When is the Connection Too Much?
>
>
>>I would have to agree with Tony.  These actions in essence, are enabling 
>>the
>> dog to not do what it was trained to do, thus the behaviors on the part 
>> of
>> the handler, whether the dog is working or not, reinforce simply, bad
>> behaviors.
>> Steve
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Toni Whaley
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 6:44 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] When is the Connection Too Much?
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> I personally think it's inappropriate to use the dog's name in a business
>> letter. Regarding having the run of the house, I think that depends on 
>> the
>> nature of the dog. If the dog tends to be overly friendly especially when
>> food is around, I think the dog should be in a crate or on a tiedown. Onn
>> the other hand, if the dog doesn't really care about company and tends to
>> stay out of the way or disappears, I think it's OK. Of course, there's 
>> the
>> problem that the guests themselves may be more of a problem than the dog;
>> that is, getting the dog too excited. I've had dogs of both types. I've 
>> also
>> tended to keep my dog out of sight on Haliween. evening, both to prevent 
>> the
>> dog from getting too excited and running out the opened door and/or 
>> scaring
>> some of the children.
>>
>> Toni
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of William Burley
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 7:10 PM
>> To: NAGDU
>> Subject: [nagdu] When is the Connection Too Much?
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> I hope everyone is well.  I had an interesting discussion today with a
>> longtime guide dog user.  She brought up the fact that some handlers seem 
>> to
>> take their relationships overboard with their guide dogs.
>>
>>
>>
>> Some examples she gave were:
>>
>>
>>
>> .         Including the dog's name in a professional e-mail signature
>>
>> .         Allowing the dog to have run of the house, even when guests are
>> there
>>
>>
>>
>> She gave some others but I am drawing a blank now.  I have not 
>> experienced
>> the two examples above but could see her point.  Have you guys dealt with
>> someone you thought took their relationship with their guide to an 
>> unhealthy
>> level?
>>
>>
>>
>> Will
>>
>>
>>
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