[nagdu] When is the Connection Too Much?

Nicole B. Torcolini at Home ntorcolini at wavecable.com
Wed Jan 11 18:04:04 UTC 2012 

I completely agree about keeping the dog away from our guide dogs; I just 
don't agree that it is necessarily a lack of skills or resources but rather 
the dog him/herself.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Parisian" <eggmann at shaw.ca>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] When is the Connection Too Much?


> Nicole, perhaps a slight difference of definition only.  The owner can 
> always do something about their dog, if they haven't the skills and/or 
> resources to appropriately socialize their animal, then they can damn well 
> keep it controlled and avoid contact with my well trained, well 
> disciplined, well controlled, well managed, well handled, dog guide.
>
> Not meaning to sound harsh rather, assertive in terms of my rights and 
> safety.  Truth is, I can hardly recall situations in my 37 years of dogdum 
> where such pests every presented more than an annoying problem.  The last 
> time it happened two years ago (approx) was, would you believe two days 
> after our service animal act was passed--how wonderfully handy eh?
>
> Doug: barking up something or other.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] When is the Connection Too Much?
>
>
>>I agree that proper dog socialization is important, but, sometimes, there 
>>is nothing that an owner can do about the dog's behavior. Some dogs just 
>>don't get along with other dogs, so, when someone tells you that, you 
>>should be grateful for the warning. That being said, if an owner does say 
>>such, it is the owner who should have to move and keep farther from you 
>>and your guide instead of you and your guide keeping farther from them.
>>
>> Nicole
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Doug Parisian" <eggmann at shaw.ca>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] When is the Connection Too Much?
>>
>>
>>> Indeed, it is truly amazing the number of incompetent dog owners walk 
>>> this earth; I feel sorry for the poor animals for having masters too 
>>> stupid and/or lazy to recognize the importance of proper dog 
>>> socialization.  I've met some of those banana brains who warn me as I 
>>> approach that their dogs don't like other dogs.  Since my animal is 
>>> under control, I suggested in not too polite terms that they either do 
>>> the same or go home.  And now, I have a very strong law about which I 
>>> spoke previously on this list to support me should either animal or 
>>> human run any unwanted interference with my service animal.  We have 
>>> probably one of the more progressive pieces of legislation in north 
>>> America in this regard which I have previously shared with the list by 
>>> the provision of a link to this Manitoba law.
>>> Doug: But, I wanna like your face!.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "loriandleo" <loriandleo at ohiohills.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 11:44 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] When is the Connection Too Much?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Dan,
>>>>
>>>> I have a grandmother who used to pick me and my previous guide dogs up 
>>>> to
>>>> go grocery shopping for example. And when I rode with my grandmother 
>>>> she
>>>> didn't mine my dog being in her car but she wanted me to put a sheet 
>>>> down in
>>>> the  back on the seat and floor for my dog to lay on so that their 
>>>> would be
>>>> less shedding and hair left behind in her car. I again brushed my dogs
>>>> regularly but you'll always get some shedding or hair that is left 
>>>> behind.
>>>> But I try to aliminate how much hair is left behind by using a sheet in
>>>> someones car if I ride with someone. And I don't mine taking a sheet or
>>>> blanket if a family member or friend asked me if I would mine bringing 
>>>> a
>>>> sheet or blanket along for the dog to lay on. I always tell them no 
>>>> matter
>>>> how much I  brush and groom my dog you will always get somehair that is 
>>>> left
>>>> behind.
>>>>
>>>> Also, I have had some family members like my one Aunt and Uncle that 
>>>> I
>>>> wasn't allowed to bring my dog to their house because they had a dog 
>>>> and
>>>> they didn't want to put their dog up in another room in the house or 
>>>> outside
>>>> in the back yard so that my dog and I could come and visit with them. 
>>>> And
>>>> they felt that they shouldn't have to put their dog up in  another room 
>>>> or
>>>> outside in the back yard. Also, if I remember right, their dog didn't 
>>>> like
>>>> other dogs. So basically if my dog wasn't allowed in their home then I
>>>> wasn't either and my dog and I both stayed home.  And I feel if my 
>>>> guide
>>>> can't accompany me to a family members or a friends house because they 
>>>> don't
>>>> want the dog their then I stay home. This is a touchy subject for me
>>>> especially when it comes to certain family relatives and my dogs.
>>>>
>>>> Lori and the Gipper my LeaderDog
>>>>
>>>>
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