[nagdu] Exemption for Private Clubs and Religious Organizations

[Marion Gwizdala]

Rebecca,
    There are those on this list who may be able to provide a better 
explanation than I. I believe that, if a private club has specific 
membership requirements and those requirements are used across the spectrum, 
such as race, ethnicity, gender, or disability, use of those characteristics 
to exclude an individual for membership are not considered discriminatory.
    There is an article on today's Associated Press in which the Courts have 
affirmed that the ADA does not apply to religious organizations. I will find 
that article and forward it to this list.
Fraternally yours,
Marion



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Exemption for Private Clubs and Religious Organizations


> So can aprivate club not allow someone because of race or disability?
>
> I thought that a private club could exclude anybody they wanted but it 
> couldn't be based on something the person can't control like race.
> Can you explain?
> And what constitutes a private club?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Marion Gwizdala
> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 9:19 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Exemption for Private Clubs and Religious 
> Organizations
>
>    Julie's assessment of the separation of church and state is correct as
> it pertains to religious institutions and places of worship. As it relates
> to private clubs, the private club has the right to set its own membership
> criteria and exclude whomever they wish. Although we may not want to join 
> a
> private club that excludes people who use service animals or those who use
> wheelchairs, but we may also not want to join clubs that exclude Jews,
> blacks, homosexuals, Polocks, or those with other characteristics.
> Similarly, there are those who want to join such clubs and that is their
> right of association and free speech.
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion Gwizdala
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 4:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Exemption for Private Clubs and Religious 
> Organizations
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>
>> Sheila and all,
>>
>> The rationale of the exemption of places of worship from the ADA stems
>> from the principle of the separation of church and state.
>>
>> Having said that, I, personally, would not attend a place of worship 
>> where
>> my guide was not welcome no matter that the law gives them the option of
>> exclusion.
>>
>> Julie
>>
>>
>> On 12/28/2011 8:08 PM, Sheila Leigland wrote:
>>> I understand about clubs if you don't pay why be at there activities. I
>>> won't choose betreen my having and using my guide dog and a church. If 
>>> my
>>> dog isn't welcome at a church I won't be attending that church.
>>>
>>> Sheila Leiglan d
>>>
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