[nagdu] When is the Connection Too Much?

Tue Jan 17 01:22:52 UTC 2012

Its funny about those folks!  If you get in some of there cars, you have to 
kick the fast food containers and other junk out of the way.  You have to 
dust off the seats and step in mud on the floor.  But, by God, there is no 
dog hair in there!!  Maybe cat hair though?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tami Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] When is the Connection Too Much?


> Buddy,
>
> For your scenario question, I would have responded the way you did for 
> about the same reasons.
>
> If I ask you for a ride, then my level of required courtesy is different 
> than if you offer me a ride I have not asked for.
> My guide dog is not a pet, she is a mobility tool. If you can't figure 
> that out and try to tell me my choices about my personal safety because 
> you don't want dog hair in your precious car... Then I have to wonder why 
> I would give up my preferred mobility tool for you because your priorities 
> are clearly against my best interest. /smile/
>
> Which is not to say that I don't engage in give and take and open 
> discussion, as it sounds you did. But if someone attempts to use my guide 
> dog as an excuse to control my choices... All bets are off. I can still be 
> courteous and firm and decline the ride and the event. Which I have. 
> People who wish to control my choices about my personal safety are not 
> friend material. Acquaintances, associates, people I get along with, etc., 
> yes. But friends? Nope. People I will choose to ride in a motor vehicle 
> with if I have another option? Nope.
>
> Tami
>
>
>
> On 01/11/2012 10:00 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>> This issue of where and where not, and under what situations, is a really 
>> difficult one sometimes.
>>
>> Where I say that my home is my dog's home, and my dog should feel free to 
>> have run of it, so long as he's behaving himself of course, the same 
>> applies to other people's homes. If someone has a pet who isn't friendly 
>> to other dogs, I have to decide what to do about that. It's their home, 
>> and the pet's home, and if I want people to respect my home (and my dog's 
>> home), it's only right that I respect other people's (and dogs') homes. 
>> So, there are certainly situations where I would leave my dog home.
>>
>> I ran into a situation recently, and want to pose a "what would you have 
>> done" for it.
>>
>> Recently, a gathering was planned, and I planned to go. I planned to take 
>> a cab to the place we were going. Unfortunately, on the day in question, 
>> the weather was most foul, and I felt I wouldn't be able to get a cab 
>> either there or back (one way or the other would undoubtedly pose a 
>> problem), so I called the person organizing the thing to let her know I 
>> would not be coming owing to the cab situation, and that Melanie didn't 
>> feel comfortable traveling in this weather in any case, so regardless of 
>> whether I was going, she definitely wasn't. So the organizer said she 
>> could see if someone could pick me up, and i said that it really wouldn't 
>> be fair to spring me on someone at the last minute, and so she said she'd 
>> ask her husband if he'd get me. When they called back, they asked if I 
>> could leave Leno at home, because it was a short trip, and we wouldn't be 
>> gone awfully long, and cleaning up the dog hair was a real pain. How 
>> would you react, and why?
>>
>> Here's how I reacted.
>>
>> I told her I was sorry, but I couldn't do that. As it happened, they 
>> backed down and said they'd put down a blanket, or towel, or sheet, or 
>> something, for Leno. Which I would have done as well, but I was asked to 
>> just leave him at home, which I didn't want to do.
>>
>> So why not though? After all, I could have taken my cane.
>>
>> As it happens, I'd just had that particular discussion with Melanie the 
>> night before, about when and why and with whom. And, in this particular 
>> situation, I made the decision I did for a couple reasons:
>>
>> 1) I didn't ask for the ride. Had I asked someone for a favor in the 
>> first place, the conditions would have been a bit different. Rather, 
>> someone sought to solve a problem I didn't feel I necessarily had.
>>
>> 2) I wasn't given alternatives. In effect, I felt I was being told what 
>> my mobility choice in that particular situation should be.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>> --
>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 11, 2012, at 12:44 AM, loriandleo wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Dan,
>>>
>>> I have a grandmother who used to pick me and my previous guide dogs up 
>>> to
>>> go grocery shopping for example. And when I rode with my grandmother she
>>> didn't mine my dog being in her car but she wanted me to put a sheet 
>>> down in
>>> the  back on the seat and floor for my dog to lay on so that their would 
>>> be
>>> less shedding and hair left behind in her car. I again brushed my dogs
>>> regularly but you'll always get some shedding or hair that is left 
>>> behind.
>>> But I try to aliminate how much hair is left behind by using a sheet in
>>> someones car if I ride with someone. And I don't mine taking a sheet or
>>> blanket if a family member or friend asked me if I would mine bringing a
>>> sheet or blanket along for the dog to lay on. I always tell them no 
>>> matter
>>> how much I  brush and groom my dog you will always get somehair that is 
>>> left
>>> behind.
>>>
>>> Also, I have had some family members like my one Aunt and Uncle that   I
>>> wasn't allowed to bring my dog to their house because they had a dog and
>>> they didn't want to put their dog up in another room in the house or 
>>> outside
>>> in the back yard so that my dog and I could come and visit with them. 
>>> And
>>> they felt that they shouldn't have to put their dog up in  another room 
>>> or
>>> outside in the back yard. Also, if I remember right, their dog didn't 
>>> like
>>> other dogs. So basically if my dog wasn't allowed in their home then I
>>> wasn't either and my dog and I both stayed home.  And I feel if my guide
>>> can't accompany me to a family members or a friends house because they 
>>> don't
>>> want the dog their then I stay home. This is a touchy subject for me
>>> especially when it comes to certain family relatives and my dogs.
>>>
>>> Lori and the Gipper my LeaderDog
>>>
>>>
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