[nagdu] Mark's dogs

Wed Jan 25 18:49:57 UTC 2012

The witness thing can go both ways, depends on a lot of variable so any
witness should be a trusted source or it can backfire. What does TASC
stand for and thanks for the offer of help. Under control.

I have thought about handing a bag of special treat to a few folks but
when I hold it up they backed off:0) so I threw it out where it
belonged. Video if handed over to "authorities" or not:0) can become a
tool that can be used either way too.  I'd let the complaint just die
because they can not levy a fine against him and have it stick.  It
would cost more then the fine itself to collect from hom.  Wonder if the
state is sticking their nose in and making the situation worse.  Reading
Tami's post its still evident that services that are supposed to help
Blind customers gain education, employment and "the american dream"
still step on civil rights like,,,, well,,,,, dog poop:0) LOL
I'm gone for a while before I get 5 messages with "stop!"

Bobby and running Prince

From:	"Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
To:	"'NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide
            Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Date:	01/25/2012 12:41 PM
Subject:	Re: [nagdu] Mark's dogs
Sent by:	nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org

Mark,
The school has people on its side. So should you.
Can you take a video of you cleaning up so the school knows you're
trying?
Why not have the trainer at this meeting with you?
Why do you think that "witnesses can go both ways"?
You shouldn't go in to this meeting feeling like it's you against the
school and all their friends.
And I still say, hand whoever is acusing you a bag of poop. That person
won't come into contact with the waste, and it will make your point like
nothing else can.
It's all about communicating in language they understand.

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Mark J. Cadigan
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 2:21 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Mark's dogs

No witnesses at this time, however, my trainer has inspected the area in
question and finds nothing wrong with it.

Witnesses can go both ways, and making a point to have witnesses and
things
being documented can be viewed as being adversarial.

I am trying to portray myself as someone who is willing to work with
them
and make accommodations. Thus making them look like the bad guy by
continuing to harass me. One hopes it stops after I meet with them next
week.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Mark's dogs

> Mark, good move.  Do you have any witnesses to these accounts to back
you
> up
> though?
>
> Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf
> Of Mark J. Cadigan
> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 1:04 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Mark's dogs
>
> It's the weekend. I'm going to talk to them in person next week and go
> from
> there. I am not going to email them because this produces a written
record
> witch may or may not be beneficial to me. I am going to talk to them
one
> on
> one, and off the record and try to resolve this issue amicably.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 1:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Mark's dogs
>
>
>> Mark,
>> Have you taken this above this person's head?  It may be time to file
a
>> harassment complaint against them, and if they continue, this is
>> retaliation.  Office of Student Services sometimes is the overseeing
>> entity.
>> From what you are describing, you are complying to the terms of what
is
>> asked of you as a service dog handler, and it might be time to draw
that
>> line in the sand.
>>
>> Just my thought,
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Mark J. Cadigan
>> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 11:21 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Mark's dogs
>>
>> The trainer recommends I tell the ODS to take a hike in as polite a
>> manner
>> as possible. The water idea is not viable in the winter, because it
would
>> freeze into an ice spot.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "marilyn" <t21114 at optonline.net>
>> To: "nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 11:57 AM
>> Subject: [nagdu] Mark's dogs
>>
>>
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> Since you are still in training with your dog what does the trainer
>>> recommend you do since he is aware of the situation?
>>> Since you are picking up after your dog I would carry a bottle of
water
>>> and after the dog goes spill the water on the spot where the dog
went.
>>> Or
>>> you can carry a baggy of baking soda and just put some down after
the
>>> dog
>>> goes. it not only absorbs order for number one but will absorb the
urine
>>> and will help with the marks left after you pick up the number 2.  I
use
>>> that a lot in the summer when I am out with Anna where she goes to
busy.
>>> Marilyn and Anna
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