[nagdu] Finding Certain Things

Mon Jan 30 00:26:37 UTC 2012

Hi, Hannah.

I would be leary of teaching clicker training on your own because Pilot 
doesn't teach it. The way I have taught my dogs to find certain things is 
repetition and praise. I would tell them to find a seat and once they'd 
found it I would praise them. My best advice is to talk to your trainer 
about how to teach the find command as you want Princess's training to be as 
consistent as possible. I would think that treat training would be difficult 
because then the dog expects a treat everytime.
Rachel
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
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Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Finding Certain Things

> Um, I actually don't know because GDB gave us clickers.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 3:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Finding Certain Things
>
>
>> Nicole,
>> Where do people purchase clickers?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
>> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 2:04 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Finding Certain Things
>>
>> I would recommend first getting a clicker and teaching your dog to target
>> your hand. You could touch Princess on the nose with your hand, click, 
>> and
>> then give her a treat. She would then learn that 1. Clicking means treat.
>> 2. Touch hand = click = treat
>> From there, your hand becomes a pointer. You know that your dog 
>> understands
>> the target the hand because he/she will usually start trying to touch 
>> your
>> hand as soon as he/she sees the clicker. At least this is what Lexia 
>> does.
>> You put your hand on whatever it is, such a chair, and, as the dog comes 
>> to
>> your hand, you say the name of the object. You slowly take your dog 
>> farther
>> and farther away from the target. Finally, you remove your hand and just 
>> use
>> the name. If this does not work, then use your hand again until your dog
>> understands the name. After a few times with only the name and the 
>> clicker,
>> stop clicking, but keep rewarding. Once your dog seems to really get it,
>> slowly back off the treats. If you find that your dog is getting confused 
>> or
>> having trouble after you stop rewarding, you may need to use rewards 
>> again.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
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>> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 1:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Finding Certain Things
>>
>>
>>> thanks Garry!
>>> Just a general question for all, are there specific methods you use to
>>> teach
>>> your dogs to find things?
>>> I don't really no anything about dogs therefore I'm always unsure how to
>>> introduce things to them. How would one go about teaching a dog to find 
>>> a
>>> chair?
>>> Sorry for asking all these questions but I want to learn as much as
>>> possible
>>> about guide dogs.
>>> Hannah
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>> Behalf
>>> Of GARY STEEVES
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 12:11 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Finding Certain Things
>>>
>>> Hi Hana:
>>>
>>> Bogart is pretty good at finding seats but not always so good at finding
>>> empty seats. :) It is something I keep working on with rewards. Luckily 
>>> he
>>> enjoys treats so this works good. Really the poodle understands the find
>>> command so your job is to label  the object you want him to find and 
>>> make
>>> it
>>> so wonderful to find it for  you that   she'll want to do it again.
>>>
>>> Once I got home with Bogart it was easy to teach him to find bus stops,
>>> buttons for audible crossings, garbage cans and it is a work in 
>>> progresss.
>>> The garbage I toght  him to find is the ones that are often around bus
>>> stops
>>> but he seems to sometimes find other types of cans given the chance. 
>>> Once
>>> it
>>> is found and labelled it  he will find it probably about   80% of the
>>> time.
>>>
>>> I think with any dog,but especially the poodle,it is imortant to keep
>>> teaching them new things. They love to learn and use their subpurb 
>>> brains.
>>>
>>> Have fun.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Hannah Chadwick <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>>> Date: Sunday, January 29, 2012 6:56 am
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Finding Certain Things
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>
>>>> Pilot does not teach their dogs to find chairs or trash cans which are
>>>> two very important things I would like my guide to know how to find; I
>>>> wouldn't want to sit on someone's lap lol, and it would definitely be
>>>> great if my dog can find a trash can for me to deposit her poop after
>>>> picking it up lol. So far I believe that all the dogs are taught to
>>>> find a curb when approachingthe street or stairs.
>>>> They don't do clicker training either, but it sounds to me that
>>>> clicker is a great way for the dogs to learn; I am interested in
>>>> looking in to it once I bond with Princess more.
>>>> I've heard and observed that poodles are definitely very smart, but
>>>> not all chairs look alike so wouldn't that make it difficult to ask
>>>> them to find a chair?
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of marilyn
>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 5:15 AM
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>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Finding Certain Things
>>>>
>>>> Hi Hannah,
>>>> GDF teaches there dogs the find command. All we do as guide dog users
>>>> is enforce what the dog is already taught. Anna can find seats, trash
>>>> cans , elevator, steps , doors and etc. just by telling her. If its a
>>>> place your going back to and there the first time , pat what it is
>>>> name it , give her a treat and tell her find it. Then give your dog
>>>> lots of praise. I am out in the field a lot going to different
>>>> buildings that I have never been before from my job and she is great
>>>> finding things. It can be confusing for the dog if there are lots of
>>>> door or elevators. I have had that happen in the NY State building.  I
>>>> also use the command find the way a lot.
>>>> When leaving a
>>>> place we back track our steps .
>>>> Marilyn and Anna
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>> Users'"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:24 PM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Finding Certain Things
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Hey All,
>>>> > I was just wondering what your experiences have been in terms
>>>> of
>>>> > teaching your dogs new commands such as finding things - an
>>>> empty
>>>> > seat, trash cans, doors, etc. I have heard that it is possible
>>>> to
>>>> > teach your dog to find certain things, and I'm definitely
>>>> interested
>>>> > in doing that once I get settled with my dog.
>>>> > Cheers, Hannah
>>>> >
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