[nagdu] Inclusive discussion
Margo and Arrow
margo.downey at verizon.net
Mon Jul 9 14:46:34 UTC 2012
And to respect those differences and commonalities and become educated about
them rather than continue stereotypes and misperceptions.
margo andArrow
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From: "Vanessa Lowery" <vlowery at dhr.state.md.us>
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>I think I see where Mike is coming from here. I won't make an attempt to
>add to his thoughts, but he makes sense.
>
> But I still see situations in which inclusivemeness poses restrictions, so
> of which may be needed under certain situations. But when possible, every
> effort also needs to be made to include everyone with all of their diverse
> differences.
>
>
>
> Vanessa Lowery, LGSW
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> VLowery at dhr.state.md.us
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>
>>>> "Michael Hingson" <info at michaelhingson.com> 7/8/2012 12:52 PM >>>
> I view "Diversity" and "Inclusion" differently. They are not on a
> continuum, but rather should be two ways to get at the same thing.
> "Diversity" is suppose to be about embracing difference, all differences
> to
> put a fine point on it. If we view ourselves as truly "diverse" then we
> should have full respect for all even if some are different from us. Here
> is a definition of "Diverse": www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/diverse,
> differing from one another : unlike <people with diverse interests>. 2. :
> composed of distinct or unlike elements or qualities <a diverse
> population>.
> Mostly, however, I find that "diversity" when associated with discussions
> of
> the kind we are having refers to culture, race, and sexual orientation,
> but
> not disability.
>
> I gave a definition of "inclusive" earlier. I think there is no middle
> ground if we really believe ourselves as "inclusive". We include all or
> we
> exclude someone in which case we are not truly "inclusive". We can debate
> fine points of this all day, but "inclusion" means that we include.
>
> Others have shaped the definition of "Diversity" and they have left us out
> which means that they don't really embrace full "diversity". I, for one,
> reject the concept of "full inclusion" or "partial inclusion". You are
> inclusive or you are not. Let someone else make up some term they choose
> to
> mean "partial inclusion" if they wish. For my part, I believe that with
> "inclusion" there is a quantum step between being or not being
> "inclusive".
>
> These are my thoughts. I am drawing a line in the sand and not allowing
> others to equivocate and leave us out again. "Inclusion" is or it is not,
> and that means that we are included everywhere including taking our guides
> with us and we are part of humanity if human beings truly believe that
> they
> are "inclusive".
>
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