[nagdu] Inclusive discussion

Mon Jul 9 15:07:57 UTC 2012

Yes, that is correct.  In fact, I would have some knowledge base about children because I first started with the Family sErvices Screening Unit doing there much of what I do in my current position.  While I have been away from Family services since 1993, I still have sufficient knowledge about Child Protective Services that I could adequately discuss that area of social work wht others.  

And yes, while in grad school, we got a wide variety of course work on all kinds of populations.  However, it is interesting to note that in all of my; course work, very little was discussed about people with disabilities.  That is one issue within the field of social worker that disturbs me to this day.  

Vanessa Lowery, LGSW
Adult and Community Services Division
Adult Services Screening Unit
410-853-3550
VLowery at dhr.state.md.us

>>> "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net> 7/9/2012 10:45 AM >>>
I agree with both Vanessa and mike.

Vanessa, even though your specific knowledge concerns adult protective 
services and not children's services, for example, you went to school to 
become a social worker and you probably learned something about kids, you 
probably learned something about other spects of social work and social 
problesm that are not the things you deal with on a daily basis.  Therefore, 
you could expand your scope at least in the understanding of what others are 
talking about.  You do recognize as a social worker that kids need services 
too from good nutrition to protective services to foster care.  If you were 
telling us about careers in social work or current problems social workers 
see, you'd probably or perhaps expand your talk to include the kids, too. 
You might even disclose that your main expertise is with adults and more 
specifically adult protective services, but, in this larger discussin or 
lecture, you'd mention the kids and you would do so with compassion, 
respect, and in a learned manner, right?

This kind fo the same but to me it isn't quite the same as the blatant 
exclusion of people with disabilities on all kinds of levels.

Margo and Arrow
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> Hi Vanessa,
>
> I agree with everything you say.  Certainly there can be groups within
> groups.  We each possess our own knowledge base.
>
> However, the overriding precept must be that all groups are part of a 
> larger
> group, the whole, and no one can be left out.  This often means that the
> knowledge of each of us must expand a bit to encompass and accept 
> everyone's
> differences.
>
>
> Mike Hingson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Vanessa Lowery
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 06:49 AM
> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users' 'NAGDU Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Inclusive discussion
>
> Interesting topic.  I read a few messages on either Friday or Saturday 
> night
> and spent the rest of the weekend pondering the concept of 
> "inclusiveness".
>
> Here's my take, for what it is worth.  Inclusiveness does imply that you
> accept "everyone", regardless of the differences that each person may 
> have.
> But even within inclusiveness, there are boundaries.  Let me explain.
>
> I am a social worker by professions.  There are social workers 
> *everywhere*,
> but while I am in the parger group called social workers, I do not possess
> all of the skills that a social worker can have.  My area of expertise is 
> in
> Adult Services, and very specifically, Adult Protective Services.  There 
> are
> things specific to this area of social work that a social worker from
> another area of practice (child foster care, for example) would be 
> clueless
> about, from the types of resources available to even the dark humor that
> runs rampid in our area of social work.  AT the same time, the foster care
> social worker has access to knowledge, and yes, even the dark humor, that 
> is
> specific to his/her area of practice that I woudl be equally cleless 
> about.
> So while we all slogged through school to become social workers, making us
> members of tha tlarger community called social workers, we did not all go
> into identical fields of practice.  So I am included in both the alrger
> community of social workers, but I am also in that community specifically
> devoted to Adult Services, while not every other social worker belongs to
> that very specific and smaller community.
>
> So, there will be diversity and cultural difference, so to speak, within a
> give community.  You can ahve both exist at the same time.
>
> OK, putting my brain back to sleep.
>
>
>
> Vanessa Lowery, LGSW
> Adult and Community Services Division
> Adult Services Screening Unit
> 410-853-3550
> VLowery at dhr.state.md.us 
>
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