[nagdu] Never worked a male before

Wed Jul 11 20:29:38 UTC 2012

Hi Buddy,
I had a female pet dog who used to mark as we walked.  she squatted and 
actually lifted one of her back legs as she peed.  The more dominant females 
will do this.  Submissive females and males rarely do this.

As for peeing on every upright surface you pass on a route, that can be 
corrected ONLY if you come down on the dog the very first time he tries it. 
I have a friend who allowed his dog to do this and then he got annoyed about 
it and the dog was hard in his habit to mark everything along his street. 
Hopefully, he will not allow his new dog get into this habit.

Marking is a canine habit, usually by the dominant male and dominant female. 
Dogs are territorial by nature and our domestic dogs are canines with 
natural habits.  We can modify thesse habits by training and it works if we 
are consistant in not allowing this behavior either in the house or out 
working.

When they mark, they release a very small amount of urine - usually just 
several drops - and go along their territory and leave these series of drops 
to alert the other dogs in the neighborhood know who left them and where 
that dog's territory begins.

Back in the ninties, there was a movie - forget the name of it - where a man 
went into the Artic to study the wolves there. they were coming into his 
tent to steal his food and he came up with the idea to set up his own "Keep 
Out" sign for them.  He drank a whole lot of water and walked around his 
area leaving small amounts of his own urine - he marked - in the language 
the wolves would understand.  It worked!

Lyn and Landon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Never worked a male before

I'm really perplexed by this belief that people seem to have that male dogs 
have a, excuse me, marked tendency to mark.

For one thing, I'm told that they're generally parked such that they 
continue the habit of squatting when they pee and don't get in the habit of 
lifting a leg on something. Even so, if we're near a post or wall or 
something at park time, Leno will life his leg on it. But, and i stress this 
emphatically, only at park time. He does not, nor did his predecessors, make 
a point of stopping to mark during our walks, nor at any time in our house. 
I'm not sure quite how this works, but I'm told that female dogs also can 
mark, and sometimes do.
--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY

On Jul 10, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Shannon Dyer <solsticesinger at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi, Tracy.
>
> From what the trainer tells me, he squats when he pees. So, hopefully, 
> marking won't be a problem.
>
> Thank you for sharing your positive experiences with me.
>
> Shannon
> Shannon Dyer
> Alumni Council Member,
> Guide Dog Foundation for the Blind, Inc
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> On Jul 10, 2012, at 7:49 AM, Tracy Carcione wrote:
>
>> Hi Shannon.
>> I've had 3 males and 3 females.  I have a mild preference for males,
>> though gals are lovely, too.  My first 2 buys were very sweet, and very
>> serious about keeping me safe.  They'd try anything I asked them to do,
>> unless they thought it wasn't safe.
>> Ben is not like that, though.  He has a strong desire to mark, which I've
>> never quite stamped out.  And he has his own agenda.  He's a Jersey boy, 
>> I
>> guess.  I see him strutting down the board walk, smirking at the ladies.
>> "Yo babe, wanna get a pizza?"  He's got on a muscle T and a gold chain.
>> Think Vinny Barbarino, if you remember back that far.
>> But he's still very sweet.  He just doesn't want to let on.
>>
>> I suspect really that the males and females are pretty much the same,
>> unless you're unlucky enough to get a guy who wants to mark, and even 
>> that
>> can be kept to a minimum. But I'll express a mild preference for another
>> guy, next time I have to go.
>>
>> Good luck with class.  It must be kinda nice, knowing what you'll be
>> getting.  Takes out the anticipation of the surprise, but I imagine it's 
>> a
>> lot less stressful.
>> Tracy
>>
>>> Hi, all.
>>>
>>> As you know, I'll be attending the August class at GDF. I'll be matched
>>> with a male. I know this because I had asked for a female, so one of the
>>> trainers contacted me to see if I would be willing to work a male. After
>>> she described his personality to me, I decided to try it out. They 
>>> brought
>>> him to meet me, since I only live like twenty minutes from the school.
>>> He's very sweet, much smaller than Caroline, and seems like a good 
>>> worker.
>>>
>>> The idea of working a male just feels really foreign to me. All the male
>>> dogs I've ever known well have been jerks of one sort or another. I know
>>> he's neudered, and not aggressive, but I'm still a little apprehensive.
>>> Does anyone have any advice? If so, I'd love to hear it.
>>>
>>> Shannon
>>> Shannon Dyer
>>> Alumni Council Member,
>>> Guide Dog Foundation for the Blind, Inc
>>> ®  and
>>> America's VetDogs®,  The Veteran's K-9 Corps Inc ®
>>> Providing "Second Sight" ® since 1946
>>> 371 E. Jericho Turnpike, Smithtown, NY 11787
>>> Office: 631-930-9000, Toll-free: 866-282-8047
>>> solsticesinger at gmail.com
>>> To make a donation that can change a life...contact the Guide Dog
>>> Foundation at
>>> www.guidedog.org
>>> or America's VetDogs the Veterans K-9 Corps at
>>> www.vetdogs.org
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>>> www.facebook.com/GuideDogFoundation or www.facebook.com/AmericasVetDogs
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