[nagdu] Now Experimenting with Poodles

Larry D. Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Thu Jul 12 03:23:53 UTC 2012 

Yah, both mine are very low shedders.  Its because of the nonshedding thing. 
I'll look up the saliva thing tomorrow.  Sence I have an extensive knowledge 
of biology I'd be curious as to what is causing the allergic reaction.  For 
example, antibodies or chemicals akin to bee sting venom, Formic acid. 
Probably not the latter at least not that chemical anyway.  That sure would 
make a dogs breath smell like vinegar but perhapse another chemical or 
enzyme produced in there saliva.
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From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Now Experimenting with Poodles


> Larry, I don't recall where I read the research but read it in 2 different 
> places. I am sure you can't stamp out all allergens but I'd think poodles 
> and dogs from many breeds and even specific dogs could be more 
> hypoallergenic than other dogs.  Very interesting topic.
>
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> ,f3 ,l>ry ,d4 ,keel] <lkeeler at comcast.net>
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> Date: Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 09:17:00 PM
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>>
>>
>> That's why they're called hypoallergenic.  Because folks may still be
>> allergic but sence the dander stays mostly on the dog instead of wherever
>> the dog leave its hair, it does cut down on allergies.  I would love to 
>> see
>> the research done on dog saliva.
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>> > Okay, but there's another angle to this.  A lot of researchers are now
>> > stating it's not necessarily always the dander that causes the 
>> > allergies
>> > but it can be the dog's saliva.  So, who knows.
>> >
>> > Margo and Arrow
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>> >
>> >
>> >> Margo,
>> >> Leader is now longer using poodles.  One of the things that they found 
>> >> is
>> >> that poodles, contrary to popular belief, are not hypo allergenic.
>> >> Leader
>> >> has scrapped the poodle program, and for students with allergies, test
>> >> the
>> >> students for their level of allergies and match with the dog that has 
>> >> the
>> >> lowest possible allergins possible.  And, congrary to popular belief, 
>> >> all
>> >> dogs do have dander, even poodles, but on the same end, there are some
>> >> dogs,
>> >> not breed-specific, that just have lower levels of dander and make 
>> >> great
>> >> matches for individuals who have allergy issues.
>> >>
>> >> HTH,
>> >>
>> >> Steve
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >> Behalf
>> >> Of Margo and Arrow
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 3:39 PM
>> >> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Now Experimenting with Poodles
>> >>
>> >> Leader Dogs I believe has been using poodles for a while and I think 
>> >> some
>> >> other schools, too.
>> >>
>> >> Margo and Arrow
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> hi tracy,
>> >>> pudles. sound like they would be a good guide dog.
> @> >>>
> @> >>>
>> >>> On Jul 11, 2012, at 7:55 AM, Tracy Carcione wrote:
> @> >>>
>> >>>> Cool!  But I suppose one has to have an actual health reason to get
>> >>>> one.
>> >>>> Too bad.  I grew up with poodles, and would love to have one.
>> >>>> Tracy
> @> >>>>
>> >>>>> Seeing eye is now experimenting with the use of poodles instead of
>> >>>>> boxers
>> >>>>> due to the boxers' health issues.  boxers have heart issues. 
>> >>>>> Seeing
>> >>>>> Eye
>> >>>>> has placed 2 poodles so far.  the Seeing Eye purchased many boxers
>> >>>>> only
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>> have one make it recently.
> @> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I am paraphrasing one of the Supervisors from the Seeing Eye.
> @> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Margo and Arrow
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