[nagdu] bringing shopping carts on the bus

Sun Jun 10 19:36:53 UTC 2012

Yikes, Tami!
On all of our buses, the bike rack is on the front fender of the buses.  In 
the trolleys, people with bikes just hold them near them or lean them 
against the doors they know won't be opening.  Some major stops on the 
trolley open both sides of doors because the train comes in on a middle 
platform.  but, at most stops, the doors open only on one side just like the 
buses do.

Good thing Mitzi was trained well to come back to you with all that 
distraction in the station - your departing friends and the GDB class with 
their dogs.  that trainer would have been better to tell you a better way to 
have handled the situation rather than a disgusted grump.  Hmmm, that's a 
novel thought - help a person rather than bitch about it. LOL!  Glad 
everything worked out well.

Lyn and Landon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tami Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] bringing shopping carts on the bus

> Oh, those low floor busses sound nice. I guess our transit company just 
> bought some new busses, which is a big controversy, but I'm wondering what 
> they are like.
>
> We have various models of light rail cars, so that's confusing all the 
> time. /lol/ People will put their bikes on hooks near the doors, which is 
> a nightmare sometimes. I'm always brushing them with my head and stuff, 
> just feeling them in time to miss them as I'm getting on or off. Once I 
> was getting off in an underground station I hadn't navigated before, and 
> as my dog got off, I got spun around as a handlebar hooked my backpack. 
> Scared me to death, because I was one of the last ones off, so the doors 
> were surely about to close! With my dog's leash right in the way. So I 
> threw away the leash and got myself untangled and barely made it off to 
> find my dog with the doors almost closing on me. Then things were echoing 
> in there, and I was all in a kerpfuffle to begin with, so that was fun. 
> Yikes! My overactive imagination can go to town at times like that, making 
> everything much, much more exciting. My friends, unaware that anything was 
> going on behind them, had gone ahead to the elevator, so I was standing 
> there all alone and utterly lost... But Mitzi came back when I called her, 
> then led me to the elevator where she had seen my friends go up, and it 
> was all good. Naturally, there was a training session from GDB going on in 
> the same area, so as I collected my loose guide dog and walked by one of 
> them waiting to board with her trainee, I got to hear the snort of 
> disgust. Well, I suppose my way of handling that counts as bad form, 
> but... Letting the leash get hung up would be worse form and result in 
> much damage to the dog, so I don't regret my decision. The dog was safe, 
> unharmed, and came when I called, knowing where we needed to go to catch 
> up with our group. So it worked out. /grin/
>
> Still, I have learned to be more cautious at those doors when I am wearing 
> a backpack or a coat with a hood or anything, and it seems Mitzi takes me 
> more to the center when we're getting off now. It was really crowded that 
> day, and a bunch of people were getting off at that stop, so there was 
> jostling.
>
> Ah, well. As long as it turns out safe. Still, I'm interested to find out 
> if those new wonder busses are easier to get off and on than the ones we 
> have now.
>
> Tami
>
> On 06/09/2012 09:42 AM, Lyn Gwizdak wrote:
>> Sounds like you have the low-floor buses that run on natural gas. We
>> have those here. Our trolley system is converting to the new low-floor
>> trains and both are easy to get on with a cart and the dog. On the
>> trolleys, there is a step up to get to more seats but I found that my
>> dog's harness gets caught on something and I needed the driver to get it
>> loose so I could get off! There is the same thing on the buses so I
>> don't go back there.
>>
>> Lyn and landon
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Keller" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 6:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] bringing shopping carts on the bus
>>
>>
>>> The places where the wheelchairs go are behind the wheel of the bus
>>> behind the driver and also on the other side of the isle. they're the
>>> seats that sit sideways.
>>>
>>> If I fold those seats up, I won't have anywhere to sit will I?
>>>
>>> Maybe I'm a little lost or confused. that happens a lot, smile.
>>>
>>> thanks for your help.
>>>
>>> Jenny
>>> On Jun 8, 2012, at 7:29 PM, Criminal Justice Major wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, Jenny,
>>>> That's why I try to do my grocery or regular shopping early in the
>>>> morning or during off peak hours with the fold up cart so I'll be
>>>> able to use the areas of where wheelchairs would normally go.
>>>> We have buses here that have two steps in the back as well.
>>>> When I've utilized those areas, I fold up one of the seats so the
>>>> cart's not in the aisle directly.
>>>> You can ask the driver or passenger if they could help you fold up
>>>> one of the seats.
>>>> There's a lever on the bottom that you pull forward and the chair
>>>> should go up automatically.
>>>> To put it back down, simply pull the lever again and it would come
>>>> back down.
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>> Bibi
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