[nagdu] New job, Cagney can't be with me

Larry D. Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Tue Jun 12 02:31:20 UTC 2012


I find it interesting that your new boss is imposing this condition on you 
and your dog to begin with.  You should get a break and so should your dog!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Meghan Whalen" <mewhalen at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] New job, Cagney can't be with me


> Dogs sleep all night with no need for a break.  When on a strict relieving 
> schedule in class with both of my dogs, they had a nine hour period over 
> night during which they did not need to relieve, so as long as she is 
> relieved right before going in, I would imagine she should be okay.  As 
> everyone else said, though, this has to be your decision.  I don't know 
> how big the space is, but maybe you could have a kennel there and put her 
> in the kennel to be sure she would rest, or just put her on tiedown under 
> your desk which would be more enjoyable for both of you, most likely.
>
> I hope you can find a resolution that is best for everyone.
>
> Meghan
>
> On 6/11/2012 9:16 AM, Margo and Arrow wrote:
>> yes, I indeed do, Buddy.
>>
>> I do not believe unless one is in an emergency situation that a job is so 
>> important that a person has to be employed by someone who states a dog 
>> can't come to work with you, especially in a very non-dangerous job.
>>
>> when I worked for the V A in buffalo, our switchboard area had its own 
>> bathroom and break area so technically if a person was alone, the person 
>> just took breaks whenever possible but had to answer the phones anyway so 
>> bathroom breaks had to be very short, lunch or other breaks could be 
>> interrupted by the phone system ringing or alarms going off, etc.
>>
>> I do think, though, that something could be in place so that the dog 
>> could be taken out, or, actually, a dog can hold it for a bit so take the 
>> dog out before the shift and relieve her after.
>>
>> At our V A, the switchboard people are alone perhaps on some weekend 
>> shifts and from about 7 p.m. to about 8 a.m. the following morning which 
>> constituted part of a shift and a whole shift.  I'm very surprised that 
>> there would be only one switchboard person from 2 to 10 because 2 through 
>> about 7 can be extremely busy.
>>
>> Margo and Arrow
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 9:36 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] New job, Cagney can't be with me
>>
>>
>>> Dunno where Pierce came from, sorry. Anyway. Margo knows the vile place 
>>> of which I speak.
>>> -- 
>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 11, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Buddy Brannan <buddy at brannan.name> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just to clarify, these jobs aren't actually hired by the VA. They're 
>>>> hired by blindness agencies contracting with the VA. So, they're at the 
>>>> VA, but you're employed by some other company. In my case, it was the 
>>>> Pierce Olmsted Center in Buffalo.
>>>> -- 
>>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 11, 2012, at 8:31 AM, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I thought Marion gave the best response so far that I've seen, but 
>>>>> truth be told, the dog is a dog which is used as not only a friend and 
>>>>> companion but a travel tool. That is not to belittle the dog in any 
>>>>> way. If you couldn't have the dog at work, then what would be the 
>>>>> point of having a dog for that purpose? You are there five days a 
>>>>> week. No, leaving the dog with your husband doesn't make you a bad 
>>>>> person, but it also doesn't allow you to fully utilize your dog. I 
>>>>> doubt they can enforce that without illegally denying you breaks. I am 
>>>>> really surprised at that coming from the V.A. in Kansas City.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Lou
>>>>>
>>>>>
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