[nagdu] Airport Screening and Service Dogs

Margo and Arrow margo.downey at verizon.net
Tue Jun 26 23:02:14 UTC 2012 

Oh, well, that's not what I read.  I hread that passengers boarding with 
animals might be screened with swabs.

margoa nd Arrow
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Airport Screening and Service Dogs


> Oh, that makes more sense then if all people boarding with animals are 
> going to get swaved for explosives no matter what.
>
>
> On Jun 26, 2012, at 5:03 PM, Marion Gwizdala wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>   It is my opinion that the announcement concerning the leash that does 
>> not set off the screening alarm is designed for the sole purpose of 
>> selling this leash. It should not be construed as an authoritative 
>> message concerning airport screening procedures. This being said, I will 
>> send a message to the Department of Homeland Security's Transportation 
>> Security Administration;s Office on Disability Policy to get an 
>> authoritative explanation. This being said, one should be wary of anyone 
>> who promulgates misinformation for the purpose of selling a product for 
>> their own gain.
>>   Just to be clear, these rules have absolutely nothing to do with the 
>> Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), the Americans with Disabilities 
>> Act, the Air Carrier Access Act, or the Department of Transportation's 
>> Federal Transit Administration. These rules are developed by the 
>> Department of Homeland Security and the transportation Security 
>> Administration TSA. ,. I represent the National Association of Guide Dog 
>> Users on TSA's Disability Coalition. My understanding is that the 
>> suggested procedure is for the service dog handler to put the dog in a 
>> sit-stay, hold the leash, pass through the screening machine, and call 
>> the dog. It is also my understanding that the clip at the end of the 
>> leash does not contain enough metal to set off the screening machine, but 
>> the metal in the harness handle does. Therefore, should the dog set off 
>> the alarm, the dog will be patted down. If one drops the leash and, when 
>> reaching to retrieve the leash after the dog has passed through screening 
>> and set off
> the alarm, the handler touches the dog, both the dog and handler are 
> patted down.
>>   As for the question of Explosive Trace Detection, any passenger 
>> boarding a plane with an animal is screened using ETD. It has absolutely 
>> nothing to do with whether or not the handler touches the dog, only that 
>> the passenger is boarding with an animal. This procedure applies to all 
>> passengers accompanied by animals, including those accompanied by service 
>> dogs.
>>
>> Fraternally yours,
>> Marion Gwizdala, President
>> National Association of Guide Dog Users (NAGDU)
>> National Federation of the Blind
>> 813-626-2789
>> President at NAGDU.ORG
>> HTTP://WWW.NAGDU.ORG
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Passle Helminski" 
>> <passle at roadrunner.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [Buddys-dogscoop] Fwd: 
>> [Blindattic]NewCompanyAnnouncement
>>
>>
>>> >The new FAA rules say you must hold the dog's leash.  They are not 
>>> > >allowed to ask you to take off the harness.
>>>
>>>
>>> Passle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I don't have a clue. I don't, but I am not convinced that there aren't 
>>>> numbers of people who do. Let's say you go through security someplace 
>>>> where they are weird. Some guy says, "You need to take that off the dog 
>>>> and let us run it." They have the power. You might take it off. I 
>>>> wouldn't, but some of us might.
>>>>
>>>> One day a friend got a pass to go through security with me so she could 
>>>> walk with me to the gate. This big officer told me I would need to hand 
>>>> him my dog. And I said, "You won't be taking my dog from me." My friend 
>>>> was terrified because I'm small and the guy was right burly.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Lou
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 26, 2012, at 2:10 PM, Margo and Arrow wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> but, cindy, but, you know, not many of us take the harness off, do we?
>>>>>
>>>>> Margo and Arrow
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:57 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [Buddys-dogscoop] Fwd: 
>>>>> [Blindattic]NewCompanyAnnouncement
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Margo, thanks for asking that question. I believe it is expected you 
>>>>>> take off the harness, but that's just a thought. I should think you'd 
>>>>>> have to take it off and toss it on the belt with other stuff of 
>>>>>> yours.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 26, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Margo and Arrow wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but, however, what about the harness that'll go off.  How does this 
>>>>>>> leash prevent that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please help the confused.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> margo and Arrow
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ginger Kutsch" 
>>>>>>> <GingerKutsch at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
>>>>>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:31 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [Buddys-dogscoop] Fwd: [Blindattic] 
>>>>>>> NewCompanyAnnouncement
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's more info about the leash:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *GuideLights* Airport X-Press Leash   $15.00
>>>>>>>> Made with Hand-braided Nylon Strands & without metal parts, this 
>>>>>>>> leash will
>>>>>>>> get your dog through airport security without the hassle of alarms 
>>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>>> resulting pat-downs and delays caused by metal parts on a 
>>>>>>>> conventional
>>>>>>>> leash. This item is available in 4-color braided nylon strands 
>>>>>>>> (thin and
>>>>>>>> flexible, but strong enough to hold a dog ready to pursue a pack of 
>>>>>>>> cats who
>>>>>>>> have swiped a cherished Nylabone). Leashes are hand-made, 
>>>>>>>> approximately 5-6
>>>>>>>> feet long, and include a ring for a quick conversion to a slip 
>>>>>>>> collar to
>>>>>>>> eliminate the need for a metal chain collar when passing through 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> security scanning gate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>> Of Margo and Arrow
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 11:27 AM
>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [Buddys-dogscoop] Fwd: [Blindattic] New
>>>>>>>> CompanyAnnouncement
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've asked a friend to swing by their booth to get an understanding 
>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>> airport leash concept.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Margoa nd arrow
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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