[nagdu] Swabbing for Explosive Trace Detection

rhonda cruz rhondaprincess at gmail.com
Wed Jun 27 15:18:03 UTC 2012 

 i do my best to make a friend.
 and i make small talk. with everyone.


On Jun 27, 2012, at 7:29 AM, Michael Hingson wrote:

> I have a goal of making every TSA person laugh or at least smile.  Sometimes
> it is hard, but I usually succeed.  They don't get much sympathy for doing a
> thankless job.
> 
> Toward that end I always warn the agents that if they choose to search
> Africa that she will want them to do an extensive 30-minute search to
> satisfy her that they are doing the job right.  She never gets her way.
> 
> I recall Roselle on several occasions being searched and flipping over on
> her back in the middle of the process.  She did a better job of getting
> laughs than I ever could have gotten through jokes.
> 
> Genine is right.  You get out of the process what you put into it.  Have fun
> with the agents, but not at their expense.  The agents really are people and
> enjoy being treated like human beings.  You will get through the process
> faster and with much less stress all around if you go into it deciding to
> have fun and make a new friend or two. 
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> 
> Michael Hingson
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Jenine Stanley
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 06:57 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Swabbing for Explosive Trace Detection
> 
> I'm with Michael here. I have flown several times in the past 6 weeks and
> have only been swabbed twice. The rule about not touching our dogs is also
> in inconsistently enforced but I always prepare in case I do get one of the
> more "by the book" screeners. 
> 
> Folks, this whole process is really not that different or horrific. I think
> you get out of the screening what you expect, barring of course the agent
> having a bad day or being overly officious. If you go in dreading and
> worrying or being overly sensitive, you're likely to have an uncomfortable
> experience. If you go in knowing the rules and acting as if you know them
> and do this all the time, things generally go smoothly. 
> 
> Probably the most amusing experience I had recently was when I was randomly
> chosen for the hand scan. No big deal for me though I do realize it is for
> some people. I look on it as a training opportunity for TSA staff. 
> 
> So as I'm being scanned, my dog is on a loose leash at what I thought was a
> nice standing Stay. Agents behind us are starting to laugh. What? 
> 
> As the female agent is choking me over, my dog is actively sniffing her
> over, part matching part. Apparently it was quite funny to watch. We all
> ended up laughing in the end and of course if you laugh at something a dog
> with even the tiniest bit of Golden Retriever in it does, then it's a new
> fun trick! I love my dog. <grin>
> 
> Jenine Stanley
> jeninems at wowway.com
> http://www.twitter.com/jeninems
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Michael Hingson
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 9:32 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Swabbing for Explosive Trace Detection
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Actually, there are still inconsistencies.  I traveled somewhere in May
> where my hands were not swabbed.  I have yet to see any rule implemented
> %100 of the time.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Marion Gwizdala
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 05:11 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Swabbing for Explosive Trace Detection
> 
> Steve,
>    The information I was given indicated these new procedures were expected
> to be fully implemented by the end of April. As with all things
> bureaucratic, perhaps it did not get implemented on the time line expected!
> 
> Marion
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 6:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Swabbing for Explosive Trace Detection
> 
> 
>> When did this go into effect?  When I flew to get my new guide back in 
>> May, I had none of this occur.
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Marion Gwizdala
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 5:27 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: [nagdu] Swabbing for Explosive Trace Detection
>> 
>> Dear All,
>>   Though I mentioned this in my previous message, swabbing for 
>> Explosive Trace Detection is done on anyone boarding a plane with an 
>> animal. It has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not one 
>> touches the dog or that the dog is a service dog. The swab is an 
>> absorbent cloth that contains no chemical. It is rubbed across the 
>> palm of the hands and placed in a machine that detects trace amounts 
>> of explosives.
>> 
>> Marion
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 5:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw:
>> [Buddys-dogscoop]Fwd:[Blindattic]NewCompanyAnnouncement
>> 
>> 
>>> Well, probably, but they won't swab you if you don't touch the dog.
>>> 
>>> margo and Arrow
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 5:33 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw:
>>> [Buddys-dogscoop]Fwd:[Blindattic]NewCompanyAnnouncement
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Oh, I missed the part about that. So what do you do. Oh, you just 
>>>> bring them through with you, right? So if you do that, then they are 
>>>> going to have to wand you because who can say what set it off?
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 26, 2012, at 4:03 PM, Margo and Arrow wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> the regs state that if you contact your dog while walking through 
>>>>> the detector and after, they can swab your hands.  You can of curse 
>>>>> touch the leash because you have to keep your dog under control but 
>>>>> you can't touch the dog.  also, no longer can we walk through the 
>>>>> detector and have our dogs at sit and then call them through.
>>>>> 
>>>>> margo and Arrow----- Original Message ----- From: "The Pawpower Pack"
>>>>> <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:53 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [Buddys-dogscoop] 
>>>>> Fwd:[Blindattic]NewCompanyAnnouncement
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Margo,
>>>>>> I was wondering about the swab thing.  When I flew to Montana in 
>>>>>> April, my SSP (who interprets things into ASL for me) went through 
>>>>>> security with me.  I had Laveau sit, walked through the detector 
>>>>>> thing, and then called Laveau.  I turned around and out of 
>>>>>> nowhere, these huge gloved hands grabbed my hands.  They weren't 
>>>>>> my SSP's hands, and since I'm Deafblind--  and use ASL tactually-- 
>>>>>> my ssp couldn't tell me what was going on with some guy basically 
>>>>>> removing any ability I have for communication.  It was scary.  He 
>>>>>> was rubbing the cloth thing on my hands, and finally, my SSP 
>>>>>> explained to me about swabbing.  Next time I'll expect it.
>>>>>> If I don't touch my dog while in security, will they still have to 
>>>>>> do it? I need to find regulations about this.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Rox and the Kitchen Bitches:
>>>>>> Bristol, Mill'E, Laveau, Baylee,!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "Dance, even if you have to warn others to get out of the way first."
>>>>>> http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
>>>>>> pawpower4me at gmail.com
>>>>>> AIM: brissysgirl
>>>>>> 
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