[nagdu] Swabbing for Explosive Trace Detection

Wed Jun 27 22:16:22 UTC 2012

You're right about this, mike.

I don't fly very much at all but when I do, I treat the TSA guys the way i 
want to be treated - and I get treated well.  They enjoy Landon alot when 
they have to search him and they end up laughing at his antics of wiggling 
his butt or doing a summersault for them.  I try to keep him more serious 
but all have a great time.  I'm sure those agents went home that night to 
tell their family members about the neat dog they had to search at work that 
day.

I agree that some people go into this whole thing with a crappy attitude and 
then they wonder why it all sucks.  If you go into anything expecting bad, 
well, that's what you'll get!  Yeah!  This is the way of the world nowadays 
and we should just know what is expected and required ahead of time, prepare 
for it and make it all as pleasant as possible.  it works!

Lyn and Landon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Hingson" <info at michaelhingson.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Swabbing for Explosive Trace Detection

>I have a goal of making every TSA person laugh or at least smile. 
>Sometimes
> it is hard, but I usually succeed.  They don't get much sympathy for doing 
> a
> thankless job.
>
> Toward that end I always warn the agents that if they choose to search
> Africa that she will want them to do an extensive 30-minute search to
> satisfy her that they are doing the job right.  She never gets her way.
>
> I recall Roselle on several occasions being searched and flipping over on
> her back in the middle of the process.  She did a better job of getting
> laughs than I ever could have gotten through jokes.
>
> Genine is right.  You get out of the process what you put into it.  Have 
> fun
> with the agents, but not at their expense.  The agents really are people 
> and
> enjoy being treated like human beings.  You will get through the process
> faster and with much less stress all around if you go into it deciding to
> have fun and make a new friend or two.
>
>
> Best,
>
>
> Michael Hingson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Jenine Stanley
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 06:57 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Swabbing for Explosive Trace Detection
>
> I'm with Michael here. I have flown several times in the past 6 weeks and
> have only been swabbed twice. The rule about not touching our dogs is also
> in inconsistently enforced but I always prepare in case I do get one of 
> the
> more "by the book" screeners.
>
> Folks, this whole process is really not that different or horrific. I 
> think
> you get out of the screening what you expect, barring of course the agent
> having a bad day or being overly officious. If you go in dreading and
> worrying or being overly sensitive, you're likely to have an uncomfortable
> experience. If you go in knowing the rules and acting as if you know them
> and do this all the time, things generally go smoothly.
>
> Probably the most amusing experience I had recently was when I was 
> randomly
> chosen for the hand scan. No big deal for me though I do realize it is for
> some people. I look on it as a training opportunity for TSA staff.
>
> So as I'm being scanned, my dog is on a loose leash at what I thought was 
> a
> nice standing Stay. Agents behind us are starting to laugh. What?
>
> As the female agent is choking me over, my dog is actively sniffing her
> over, part matching part. Apparently it was quite funny to watch. We all
> ended up laughing in the end and of course if you laugh at something a dog
> with even the tiniest bit of Golden Retriever in it does, then it's a new
> fun trick! I love my dog. <grin>
>
> Jenine Stanley
> jeninems at wowway.com
> http://www.twitter.com/jeninems
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Michael Hingson
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 9:32 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Swabbing for Explosive Trace Detection
>
> Hi,
>
> Actually, there are still inconsistencies.  I traveled somewhere in May
> where my hands were not swabbed.  I have yet to see any rule implemented
> %100 of the time.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Marion Gwizdala
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 05:11 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Swabbing for Explosive Trace Detection
>
> Steve,
>    The information I was given indicated these new procedures were 
> expected
> to be fully implemented by the end of April. As with all things
> bureaucratic, perhaps it did not get implemented on the time line 
> expected!
>
> Marion
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 6:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Swabbing for Explosive Trace Detection
>
>
>> When did this go into effect?  When I flew to get my new guide back in
>> May, I had none of this occur.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Marion Gwizdala
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 5:27 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: [nagdu] Swabbing for Explosive Trace Detection
>>
>> Dear All,
>>    Though I mentioned this in my previous message, swabbing for
>> Explosive Trace Detection is done on anyone boarding a plane with an
>> animal. It has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not one
>> touches the dog or that the dog is a service dog. The swab is an
>> absorbent cloth that contains no chemical. It is rubbed across the
>> palm of the hands and placed in a machine that detects trace amounts
>> of explosives.
>>
>> Marion
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 5:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw:
>> [Buddys-dogscoop]Fwd:[Blindattic]NewCompanyAnnouncement
>>
>>
>>> Well, probably, but they won't swab you if you don't touch the dog.
>>>
>>> margo and Arrow
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 5:33 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw:
>>> [Buddys-dogscoop]Fwd:[Blindattic]NewCompanyAnnouncement
>>>
>>>
>>>> Oh, I missed the part about that. So what do you do. Oh, you just
>>>> bring them through with you, right? So if you do that, then they are
>>>> going to have to wand you because who can say what set it off?
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 26, 2012, at 4:03 PM, Margo and Arrow wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> the regs state that if you contact your dog while walking through
>>>>> the detector and after, they can swab your hands.  You can of curse
>>>>> touch the leash because you have to keep your dog under control but
>>>>> you can't touch the dog.  also, no longer can we walk through the
>>>>> detector and have our dogs at sit and then call them through.
>>>>>
>>>>> margo and Arrow----- Original Message ----- From: "The Pawpower Pack"
>>>>> <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:53 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [Buddys-dogscoop]
>>>>> Fwd:[Blindattic]NewCompanyAnnouncement
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Margo,
>>>>>> I was wondering about the swab thing.  When I flew to Montana in
>>>>>> April, my SSP (who interprets things into ASL for me) went through
>>>>>> security with me.  I had Laveau sit, walked through the detector
>>>>>> thing, and then called Laveau.  I turned around and out of
>>>>>> nowhere, these huge gloved hands grabbed my hands.  They weren't
>>>>>> my SSP's hands, and since I'm Deafblind--  and use ASL tactually-- 
>>>>>> my ssp couldn't tell me what was going on with some guy basically
>>>>>> removing any ability I have for communication.  It was scary.  He
>>>>>> was rubbing the cloth thing on my hands, and finally, my SSP
>>>>>> explained to me about swabbing.  Next time I'll expect it.
>>>>>> If I don't touch my dog while in security, will they still have to
>>>>>> do it? I need to find regulations about this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rox and the Kitchen Bitches:
>>>>>> Bristol, Mill'E, Laveau, Baylee,!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Dance, even if you have to warn others to get out of the way first."
>>>>>> http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
>>>>>> pawpower4me at gmail.com
>>>>>> AIM: brissysgirl
>>>>>>
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