[nagdu] crowded trains

Thu Mar 1 03:47:53 UTC 2012

Lets hope, I am afraid he will get hurt by being stepped on.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] crowded trains

> That might be because you are still a new team. Em did the same, now she
> moves.
>
> Marsha
>
>
>
> ----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Mark J. Cadigan
> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 10:01 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] crowded trains
>
> no. he does not get out of the way. I accidentally step on him and he
> doesn't
> care.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 9:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] crowded trains
>
>
>> Hahaha. Does he get out of the way for you? Lexia knows that I am blind
>> and will jump out of the way for me.
>> I am also able to reposition Lexia, but she is a lab who is less than 70
>> pounds. That being said, she does not mind being repositioned. As a 
>> matter
>
>> of fact, one of her favorite games when out of harness is "try to roll me
>> over", which can get really silly because of the way she uses her legs 
>> and
>
>> paws.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 6:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] crowded trains
>>
>>
>>> He does not protest, I just mostly slide/shove him to the smallest
>>> possible area or under the seat. Sometimes when I do that to my dog
>>> people are afraid I am going to get bitten, but my dog and for that
>>> matter all well trained dogs don't mind being handled. I am gentle,
>>> mostly working with him and forcefully encouraging rather than forcing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I call my dog "expando dog" when he figures how to take up the entire
>>> Flore space available. The best part is, if someone is trying to get
>>> past, he just stares at them, and waits for them to step over him.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't let my dog sprawl in public unless there is plenty of room. 
>>> Like
>
>>> in some of my classes there is like 4 ft between my desk and the wall
>>> that nothing is in because of the way the room is arranged also, this
>>> space is impossible to walk threw so it's not a bother to anyone.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 9:32 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] crowded trains
>>>
>>>
>>>> Mark,
>>>>
>>>> I bet that is a site to see. Em is only like 60 pounds, but takes up 
>>>> the
>>>> floor space of like 3 or 4 dogs. Do they teach them at the guide dog
>>>> schools
>>>> to do the shepard sprawl?
>>>>
>>>> Marsha
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Mark J. Cadigan
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 9:03 PM
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>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] crowded trains
>>>>
>>>> My dog will do the same thing. I basically pick him up, and shape him
>>>> into
>>>> the space I want him to fit into. Lol. I have an 80 lb dog. Lol
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 8:57 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] crowded trains
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> This brings up a interesting thing. Emma is a shepard, and when we are
>>>>> at
>>>>> school, or any where for that matter, she will do the shepard sprawl.
>>>>> You
>>>>> know like takes up as much of the floor that she possibly can. So if 
>>>>> we
>>>>> are
>>>>> on a crowded train, how do I make my pup be small?
>>>>>
>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Cindy Ray
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:26 PM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] crowded trains
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, first of all, I agree with you on the business of not caring
>>>>> about
>>>>> standing. It is fine with me. I sometimes feel I can get the dog in a
>>>>> bit
>>>>> safer place if I do sit, but I try to keep him small as possible and
>>>>> stand
>>>>> behind him to protect his tail. I try to refuse seats, and sometimes 
>>>>> it
>>>>> works. Other times it does not work. Maybe this is a cop out, but when
>>>>> it
>>>>> doesn't, I just go ahead and take it to get the situation finished. 
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> older and I know I can stand on the train or bus; some of those folks 
>>>>> I
>>>>> won't see anymore; we all want to get where we are going, so I leave 
>>>>> it
>>>>> alone. But I will protest. There are times when it has worked to do
>>>>> that,
>>>>> times when not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>
>>>>>
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