[nagdu] crowded trains
Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
ntorcolini at wavecable.com
Thu Mar 1 03:57:07 UTC 2012
Interesting. I have the exact opposite: pet dog won't move but guide dog
will.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] crowded trains
> None of my dogs have ever gotten out of my way. If I trip over them they
> all say, "What's your problem?" The pet dogs, on the other hand, have
> always been quite likely to move.
>
> On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:34 PM, Marsha Drenth wrote:
>
>> That might be because you are still a new team. Em did the same, now she
>> moves.
>>
>> Marsha
>>
>>
>>
>> ----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Mark J. Cadigan
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 10:01 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] crowded trains
>>
>> no. he does not get out of the way. I accidentally step on him and he
>> doesn't
>> care.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 9:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] crowded trains
>>
>>
>>> Hahaha. Does he get out of the way for you? Lexia knows that I am blind
>>> and will jump out of the way for me.
>>> I am also able to reposition Lexia, but she is a lab who is less than 70
>>> pounds. That being said, she does not mind being repositioned. As a
>>> matter
>>
>>> of fact, one of her favorite games when out of harness is "try to roll
>>> me
>>> over", which can get really silly because of the way she uses her legs
>>> and
>>
>>> paws.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 6:46 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] crowded trains
>>>
>>>
>>>> He does not protest, I just mostly slide/shove him to the smallest
>>>> possible area or under the seat. Sometimes when I do that to my dog
>>>> people are afraid I am going to get bitten, but my dog and for that
>>>> matter all well trained dogs don't mind being handled. I am gentle,
>>>> mostly working with him and forcefully encouraging rather than forcing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I call my dog "expando dog" when he figures how to take up the entire
>>>> Flore space available. The best part is, if someone is trying to get
>>>> past, he just stares at them, and waits for them to step over him.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't let my dog sprawl in public unless there is plenty of room.
>>>> Like
>>
>>>> in some of my classes there is like 4 ft between my desk and the wall
>>>> that nothing is in because of the way the room is arranged also, this
>>>> space is impossible to walk threw so it's not a bother to anyone.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 9:32 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] crowded trains
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>
>>>>> I bet that is a site to see. Em is only like 60 pounds, but takes up
>>>>> the
>>>>> floor space of like 3 or 4 dogs. Do they teach them at the guide dog
>>>>> schools
>>>>> to do the shepard sprawl?
>>>>>
>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Mark J. Cadigan
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 9:03 PM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] crowded trains
>>>>>
>>>>> My dog will do the same thing. I basically pick him up, and shape him
>>>>> into
>>>>> the space I want him to fit into. Lol. I have an 80 lb dog. Lol
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 8:57 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] crowded trains
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> This brings up a interesting thing. Emma is a shepard, and when we
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> school, or any where for that matter, she will do the shepard sprawl.
>>>>>> You
>>>>>> know like takes up as much of the floor that she possibly can. So if
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> on a crowded train, how do I make my pup be small?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Cindy Ray
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:26 PM
>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] crowded trains
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, first of all, I agree with you on the business of not caring
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> standing. It is fine with me. I sometimes feel I can get the dog in a
>>>>>> bit
>>>>>> safer place if I do sit, but I try to keep him small as possible and
>>>>>> stand
>>>>>> behind him to protect his tail. I try to refuse seats, and sometimes
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> works. Other times it does not work. Maybe this is a cop out, but
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> doesn't, I just go ahead and take it to get the situation finished.
>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>> older and I know I can stand on the train or bus; some of those folks
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> won't see anymore; we all want to get where we are going, so I leave
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> alone. But I will protest. There are times when it has worked to do
>>>>>> that,
>>>>>> times when not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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