[nagdu] Groomer or Play date!

[Marsha Drenth]

Cindy,

I too have received dogs from schools that do not teach out of harness
guiding. But over the years I am finding this is a good skill for our dogs
to have. For example, I live in a condo sort of area, so in order to get to
the trash I have to go down the sidewalk, around a corner, and down another
sidewalk. I have taught Em to guide when I do not have my cane in the
situation I need to go to the trash. Or if I take Em to park out my back
deck, its all grass. And there have been times when I have asked her to go
home, and she will visit a neighbors, so then I have to get back home. I
don't have my cane, and she is not in harness, but she does really well over
grass in this guiding. Yes granted she doesn't do it well, nor did the
school teach her this skill, but the pups do pick up on it. I am not
recommending it for long walks, but it does have its applications. What if
you were at home, and for some reason you had to get out of the house
immediately, you couldn't get to the harness, but needed your pup to guide.
Yes I do agree that the public does see our pups as working guides when in
harness, but that harness does not also mean that they aren't working, or
that they aren't a guide any longer. 

I am not trying to convince you, just giving more ways to look at out of
harness guiding.  

2cents,
Marsha 


-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Cindy Ray
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 9:58 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Groomer or Play date!

Well, I guess it has to do with my own personal bias and where I receive my
dogs, but it seems odd to me to work a dog in leash and not harness. First,
to me it seems as if the dog's being a guide is less noticeable if not
wearing its "gear." Second, if you are working the dog, why not just work it
in harness and take its harness off at the groomer's? Like I said, this is
probably related to my personal bias. 

Cindy

On Mar 2, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:

> I took Holly to the groomer this morning.  I went up there without her
harness sence I would not be using it at home.  I conducted a little
experiment.  I worked her without the harness!  It worked ok.  When she
figured out where we were going, she took me right to the door.  I went in
and, wow!!  Her big boyfriend Harvey was there as well!  He is a big
doubledoodle that we havre met while working.  Sence this was not work, Oh
boy!  Harvey is not a service animal but he does come from near Columbus.  I
suspect him and Holly may be from the same place.  Harvey was baught and
Holly was donated.  Up here in Ann Arbor that's kind of neat!  They both
were also playing with a little beshen.  Excuse that spelling!  Those little
white furry French dogs. Anyway, Holly just came to me, wagged her tail and
dove into the fun!   
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