[nagdu] crowded trains

[Lyn Gwizdak]

Landon used to sprawl way out with his feet in the aisle.  He would inch his 
way out from under the seat but no longer does that as much.  He had to 
learn the hard way what happens when he sticks his legs way ouot - they get 
stepped on!  Many times, I feel him pull back under the seat when people are 
getting on or off the bus after getting stepped on.

In general, I notice that people from different schools seem to let theier 
dog sprawl out in walkways around tables in a room.  It seems that some 
schools don't emphacize keeping your dog under the table or chair ouot of 
the way of foot traffic in a room.  We seem to have this problem at meetings 
in our blind center.  Many dogs are actually behind the owners and do get 
tripped over by orther blind and the sighted people.  The people seem to 
have little awareness as to the wherabouts of their dog.  Our chairs have a 
bar under them prohibiting putting the dog under the chair.  We sit at big 
round tables and there is room for a few dogs under the table except if you 
get a seat near the table legs and then you havve no choice but to have the 
dog along side the chair.  In that case, I try to put Landon's butt under 
the table as much as I can get him with his head facing out beside me.

I was told by a graduate of another school from mine that they don't really 
emphacize putting the dog out of the way.  Seeing Eye really emphacizes this 
for the safety of the dogs and the safety of people passing by who fails to 
notice the dog on the floor.

Lyn and Landon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] crowded trains


> Can you manipulate her with her shoulders and chest kind of like when you 
> push them under a chair that allows for that?
>
> On Feb 29, 2012, at 7:57 PM, Marsha Drenth wrote:
>
>> This brings up a interesting thing. Emma is a shepard, and when we are at
>> school, or any where for that matter, she will do the shepard sprawl. You
>> know like takes up as much of the floor that she possibly can. So if we 
>> are
>> on a crowded train, how do I make my pup be small?
>>
>> Marsha
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Cindy Ray
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:26 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] crowded trains
>>
>> Well, first of all, I agree with you on the business of not caring about
>> standing. It is fine with me. I sometimes feel I can get the dog in a bit
>> safer place if I do sit, but I try to keep him small as possible and 
>> stand
>> behind him to protect his tail. I try to refuse seats, and sometimes it
>> works. Other times it does not work. Maybe this is a cop out, but when it
>> doesn't, I just go ahead and take it to get the situation finished. I'm
>> older and I know I can stand on the train or bus; some of those folks I
>> won't see anymore; we all want to get where we are going, so I leave it
>> alone. But I will protest. There are times when it has worked to do that,
>> times when not.
>>
>> Cindy
>>
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