[nagdu] crowded trains

[Tracy Carcione]

It's one of the things I like about TSE, their emphasis on keeping the dog
out of the way.  Last time I was at GDB, in 1997, my instructor laughed at
me for trying to tuck Echo under my chair.  Inappropriate of him, I
thought.  I don't think GEB emphasizes it, either.
Tracy

> Landon used to sprawl way out with his feet in the aisle.  He would inch
> his
> way out from under the seat but no longer does that as much.  He had to
> learn the hard way what happens when he sticks his legs way ouot - they
> get
> stepped on!  Many times, I feel him pull back under the seat when people
> are
> getting on or off the bus after getting stepped on.
>
> In general, I notice that people from different schools seem to let theier
> dog sprawl out in walkways around tables in a room.  It seems that some
> schools don't emphacize keeping your dog under the table or chair ouot of
> the way of foot traffic in a room.  We seem to have this problem at
> meetings
> in our blind center.  Many dogs are actually behind the owners and do get
> tripped over by orther blind and the sighted people.  The people seem to
> have little awareness as to the wherabouts of their dog.  Our chairs have
> a
> bar under them prohibiting putting the dog under the chair.  We sit at big
> round tables and there is room for a few dogs under the table except if
> you
> get a seat near the table legs and then you havve no choice but to have
> the
> dog along side the chair.  In that case, I try to put Landon's butt under
> the table as much as I can get him with his head facing out beside me.
>
> I was told by a graduate of another school from mine that they don't
> really
> emphacize putting the dog out of the way.  Seeing Eye really emphacizes
> this
> for the safety of the dogs and the safety of people passing by who fails
> to
> notice the dog on the floor.
>
> Lyn and Landon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 6:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] crowded trains
>
>
>> Can you manipulate her with her shoulders and chest kind of like when
>> you
>> push them under a chair that allows for that?
>>
>> On Feb 29, 2012, at 7:57 PM, Marsha Drenth wrote:
>>
>>> This brings up a interesting thing. Emma is a shepard, and when we are
>>> at
>>> school, or any where for that matter, she will do the shepard sprawl.
>>> You
>>> know like takes up as much of the floor that she possibly can. So if we
>>> are
>>> on a crowded train, how do I make my pup be small?
>>>
>>> Marsha
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Cindy Ray
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:26 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] crowded trains
>>>
>>> Well, first of all, I agree with you on the business of not caring
>>> about
>>> standing. It is fine with me. I sometimes feel I can get the dog in a
>>> bit
>>> safer place if I do sit, but I try to keep him small as possible and
>>> stand
>>> behind him to protect his tail. I try to refuse seats, and sometimes it
>>> works. Other times it does not work. Maybe this is a cop out, but when
>>> it
>>> doesn't, I just go ahead and take it to get the situation finished. I'm
>>> older and I know I can stand on the train or bus; some of those folks I
>>> won't see anymore; we all want to get where we are going, so I leave it
>>> alone. But I will protest. There are times when it has worked to do
>>> that,
>>> times when not.
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
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