[nagdu] Dry Skin Update
Natalie
nrorrell at qwest.net
Thu Mar 8 02:21:31 UTC 2012
Hi Juanita,
Right on. Glad to hear Anise is doing better. Please keep us posted when
the fish oil tabs arrive.
Best,
Nat and Liam Joshua
----- Original Message -----
From: "Juanita Herrera" <juanitaherrera1991 at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dry Skin Update
> Hello to all who replied to my message,
> Anise is doing better. I've been brushing her well, and she still
> seems to have tiny bits of the dry skin particles, but they are not as
> obvious as they were the day I wrote on here. I bought her fish oil
> capsules, and they should be on their way. I'm going to try that, and
> see how they work. I think it was just the batheing that dried her
> skin out because I had had her for a month an three weeks, and I had
> never had this problem. Thank you all for replying to me.
> Best,
> Juanita And Anise
>
> On 2/28/12, Natalie <nrorrell at qwest.net> wrote:
>> Hi Juanita,
>> My previous guide, Whitney, had dandruff but it wasn't because of a
>> shampoo.
>> It was because her thyroid was low. Not saying this is what Anise has,
>> but
>> that was Whitney's situation. Praying for you, and please do keep us
>> posted.
>> Best,
>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Juanita Herrera" <juanitaherrera1991 at gmail.com>
>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 6:01 PM
>> Subject: [nagdu] Dry Skin
>>
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>> I took Anise on Tuesday to get groomed. From what the groomer told me,
>>> she shampooed, conditioned, deeShed, and trimmed Anise's coat.
>>> However, today I was told by someone that she has dandruff. It is
>>> quite noticeable because she is a black lab. I am high maintenance,
>>> and I groom her daily so I don't know if it was the shampoo they used
>>> on her. I haven't called the groomer because they are closed now, and
>>> they won't be back until Monday. I did some research and found that
>>> adding a piece of avocado to her food would help control the problem,
>>> but what do you all think? Has anyone had this happen to them? If so,
>>> what did you do in this situation?
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Juanita And Anise
>>>
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>>>> 1. Re: meating the puppy raisers (Melissa Green)
>>>> 2. Re: meating the puppy raisers (Danielle Larsen)
>>>> 3. Re: another update (Hannah Chadwick)
>>>> 4. Re: meeting the puppy raisers (Tracy Carcione)
>>>> 5. Re: guide dog cargo while on the go. (Tracy Carcione)
>>>> 6. Re: meeting the puppy raisers (Lea williams)
>>>> 7. Re: meeting the puppy raisers (Cindy Ray)
>>>> 8. Re: guide dog cargo while on the go. (Nicole B. Torcolini at
>>>> Home)
>>>> 9. Re: meating the puppy raisers (Lyn Gwizdak)
>>>> 10. looking for a dog (keri)
>>>> 11. Re: looking for a dog (Cindy Ray)
>>>> 12. more crazy weather (Criminal Justice Major)
>>>> 13. Re: guide dog cargo while on the go. (Sheila Leigland)
>>>> 14. Re: looking for a dog (keri)
>>>> 15. Re: more crazy weather (Larry D. Keeler)
>>>> 16. Re: Update (Natalie)
>>>> 17. Re: The dog sh^t continues! (Natalie)
>>>> 18. Re: Dog food (Natalie)
>>>> 19. Re: The dog sh^t continues! (Mark J. Cadigan)
>>>> 20. Re: Dogs At Work (Natalie)
>>>> 21. Re: Dogs At Work (Natalie)
>>>> 22. Re: Dog food (Mark J. Cadigan)
>>>> 23. Re: Dogs At Work (Nicole B. Torcolini at Home)
>>>> 24. Re: more crazy weather (Criminal Justice Major)
>>>> 25. Re: more crazy weather (Larry D. Keeler)
>>>> 26. Re: another update (Rachel Krieg)
>>>> 27. Re: guide dog cargo while on the go. (loriandleo)
>>>> 28. Welcome to all the new people on the list / New, possible
>>>> future guide dog (Mardi Hadfield)
>>>> 29. Re: guide dog cargo while on the go. (loriandleo)
>>>> 30. Mutt mat (Tracy Carcione)
>>>> 31. Re: Welcome to all the new people on the list / New, possible
>>>> future guide dog (rhonda cruz)
>>>> 32. Re: The dog sh^t continues! (rhonda cruz)
>>>> 33. Fw: [Nyagdu] Monthly teleconference of the travel and tourism
>>>> division meeting, Monday, February 27th (Margo and Arrow)
>>>> 34. Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users (Larry D. Keeler)
>>>> 35. Re: Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users (William Vandervest)
>>>> 36. Re: Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users (Larry D. Keeler)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:32:06 -0700
>>>> From: "Melissa Green" <graduate56 at juno.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>> Message-ID: <DD19035421BB4034BEB9E1906872620C at melissa>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>
>>>> GDF has a celebration sunday. That is when you meet your puppy
>>>> raisers.
>>>> I was able to talk with my dog's puppy raisers on the phone because
>>>> they
>>>> weren't able to make it.
>>>> they shared information with me about my dog and were very gracious.
>>>> I still keep in contact with them.
>>>> I remember one things that was said too me. It was you're her mama
>>>> now.
>>>>
>>>> I guess many puppy raisers are very attached and have tried to get the
>>>> dog
>>>> back. This happened to a friend of mine. They pulled out all of the
>>>> stops
>>>> trying to get the dog back.
>>>> Have a blessed day.
>>>> Warmly,
>>>> Melissa and PJ
>>>> It's so hard to forget pain, but it's even harder to remember
>>>> sweetness.
>>>> We
>>>> have no scar to show for happiness.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Lea williams" <leanicole1988 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hey i am not sure how this works with all the schools, but when do you
>>>>> normally get to meet the puppy raisers?
>>>>>
>>>>> I know how the school I am going to does it. I am going to guiding
>>>>> eyes and we do on graduation day.
>>>>>
>>>>> After reading a few emails on here I got to wonder why people can't
>>>>> asked the puppy raisers what kind of toys and things that their dog
>>>>> might like rather than having to try to figure it out completely
>>>>> themselves?
>>>>> I asked one about it and was told that Pilot won't let you meet the
>>>>> raisers until after six months.
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you feel about how your school does this? Do you mind or not?
>>>>> Would you rather it different?
>>>>> What were some benifits to meeting your puppy raisers? What kinds of
>>>>> things did you learn about your dog when you did?
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:50:04 -0500
>>>> From: Danielle Larsen <dnlarsen75 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <CAEEb73f1ukOMeo4HLPNf1MNYO1cOP1xbkwExp6obQWU-EHwkrA at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>
>>>> >From a puppy raiser's perspective it is kidn of hard to imagine people
>>>> doing things like that. I raise puppies for TSE. And it is hard to not
>>>> have
>>>> contact with the handlers, but not for the reasons you may think. It's
>>>> hard
>>>> because we love to hear that they are loved. I get into this fully
>>>> aware
>>>> of
>>>> the fact that once they leave I will not see them again and will not
>>>> hear
>>>> how they are. I can be okay with all that. It just is incredible to
>>>> hear
>>>> that our dogs are loved, and happy. That's all I have ever wanted for
>>>> my
>>>> puppies and to me it's the most important thing.
>>>>
>>>> So to those of you who have had bad experience with puppy raiser
>>>> contact
>>>> I
>>>> am sorry. But please dont' let it stamp judgments on the rest of us.
>>>> And
>>>> to
>>>> everyone who has a guide dog who wen tthrough a puppy raising program,
>>>> please know how much your loving yoru dog really means to each of us.
>>>> We
>>>> don't want tons of thanks or anything like that. Knowing our dogs are
>>>> out
>>>> there, with new dog mom's and dad's and having the time of their lives,
>>>> that's what we care about. And, th emajority of us, know that going
>>>> into
>>>> it. And are more then okay with it.
>>>>
>>>> I don't mind that TSE doesn't allow me to know the handlers the puppies
>>>> I
>>>> raise go to. I trust TSE to make a good selection of handlers and that
>>>> they
>>>> would only match my dog with someone who is going to care about them at
>>>> least as much, if not more then I do. each pup has left their mark in
>>>> my
>>>> heart, but it makes me happiest knowing they are off doing great
>>>> things,
>>>> and enjoying their lives.
>>>>
>>>> So, once these dogs become yours, love them to bits. As puppy raisers
>>>> that's all we really hope for.
>>>>
>>>> Alright, haha off the soap box. :) Thanks for reading haha.
>>>>
>>>> Danielle, and TSE puppy in training "J-love" (to maintain TSE
>>>> confidentiality policies I refer to my puppies by nickanmes on email
>>>> list)
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Melissa Green <graduate56 at juno.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> GDF has a celebration sunday. That is when you meet your puppy
>>>>> raisers.
>>>>> I was able to talk with my dog's puppy raisers on the phone because
>>>>> they
>>>>> weren't able to make it.
>>>>> they shared information with me about my dog and were very gracious.
>>>>> I still keep in contact with them.
>>>>> I remember one things that was said too me. It was you're her mama
>>>>> now.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess many puppy raisers are very attached and have tried to get the
>>>>> dog
>>>>> back. This happened to a friend of mine. They pulled out all of the
>>>>> stops
>>>>> trying to get the dog back.
>>>>> Have a blessed day.
>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>> Melissa and PJ
>>>>> It's so hard to forget pain, but it's even harder to remember
>>>>> sweetness.
>>>>> We have no scar to show for happiness.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lea williams"
>>>>> <leanicole1988 at gmail.com
>>>>> >
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <
>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey i am not sure how this works with all the schools, but when do you
>>>>>> normally get to meet the puppy raisers?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know how the school I am going to does it. I am going to guiding
>>>>>> eyes and we do on graduation day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After reading a few emails on here I got to wonder why people can't
>>>>>> asked the puppy raisers what kind of toys and things that their dog
>>>>>> might like rather than having to try to figure it out completely
>>>>>> themselves?
>>>>>> I asked one about it and was told that Pilot won't let you meet the
>>>>>> raisers until after six months.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you feel about how your school does this? Do you mind or not?
>>>>>> Would you rather it different?
>>>>>> What were some benifits to meeting your puppy raisers? What kinds of
>>>>>> things did you learn about your dog when you did?
>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 3
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:54:40 -0800
>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>>>> Message-ID: <001501ccf25c$99967830$ccc36890$@gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>
>>>> Rj,
>>>> GDA is Guide Dogs of America and it is located in Southern California.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Cindy Ray
>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:31 AM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure what you are asking me, but I think the message was in
>>>> response to someone who was trying to make plans to go to Guide Dogs of
>>>> America. Maybe this is just a general question attached to my message.
>>>> Cindy Lou
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 8:22 AM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is that guide dogs of America? RJ
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:15 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it is really a good idea to work on the things the schools
>>>>>> want
>>>> us to work on, and I'm glad they are being a little more proactive
>>>> about
>>>> this than they once were. It gives us something to work toward, and
>>>> often
>>>>
>>>> it
>>>> doesn't take too long to get to a place where we will be accepted. Of
>>>> course
>>>> I could be way off base here as I don't know the whole history.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 21, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Rachel Krieg wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi, all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My interview with GDA went okay. I haven't been accepted or denied.
>>>>>>> They
>>>> need me to work on my street crossings and increasing my stamina. I am
>>>> disappointed, but will do whatever it takes as I desperately want
>>>> another
>>>> dog.
>>>>>>> Rachel
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>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 4
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:11:39 -0500
>>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meeting the puppy raisers
>>>> Message-ID: <346784c30cae7a200a641ccaa3b60e5b.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>>>>
>>>> Hi Danielle.
>>>> Thanks for saying that. When I got my Ben from TSE, I wrote to his
>>>> family
>>>> to thank them and tell them that I adored him and he was settling in
>>>> well.
>>>> I thought that, if I'd raised him, that's what I'd want to know.
>>>> Thanks
>>>> for confirming that opinion.
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From a puppy raiser's perspective it is kidn of hard to imagine people
>>>>> doing things like that. I raise puppies for TSE. And it is hard to not
>>>>> have
>>>>> contact with the handlers, but not for the reasons you may think. It's
>>>>> hard
>>>>> because we love to hear that they are loved. I get into this fully
>>>>> aware
>>>>> of
>>>>> the fact that once they leave I will not see them again and will not
>>>>> hear
>>>>> how they are. I can be okay with all that. It just is incredible to
>>>>> hear
>>>>> that our dogs are loved, and happy. That's all I have ever wanted for
>>>>> my
>>>>> puppies and to me it's the most important thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> So to those of you who have had bad experience with puppy raiser
>>>>> contact
>>>>>
>>>>> I
>>>>> am sorry. But please dont' let it stamp judgments on the rest of us.
>>>>> And
>>>>> to
>>>>> everyone who has a guide dog who wen tthrough a puppy raising program,
>>>>> please know how much your loving yoru dog really means to each of us.
>>>>> We
>>>>> don't want tons of thanks or anything like that. Knowing our dogs are
>>>>> out
>>>>> there, with new dog mom's and dad's and having the time of their
>>>>> lives,
>>>>> that's what we care about. And, th emajority of us, know that going
>>>>> into
>>>>> it. And are more then okay with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't mind that TSE doesn't allow me to know the handlers the
>>>>> puppies
>>>>> I
>>>>> raise go to. I trust TSE to make a good selection of handlers and that
>>>>> they
>>>>> would only match my dog with someone who is going to care about them
>>>>> at
>>>>> least as much, if not more then I do. each pup has left their mark in
>>>>> my
>>>>> heart, but it makes me happiest knowing they are off doing great
>>>>> things,
>>>>> and enjoying their lives.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, once these dogs become yours, love them to bits. As puppy raisers
>>>>> that's all we really hope for.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alright, haha off the soap box. :) Thanks for reading haha.
>>>>>
>>>>> Danielle, and TSE puppy in training "J-love" (to maintain TSE
>>>>> confidentiality policies I refer to my puppies by nickanmes on email
>>>>> list)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Melissa Green <graduate56 at juno.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> GDF has a celebration sunday. That is when you meet your puppy
>>>>>> raisers.
>>>>>> I was able to talk with my dog's puppy raisers on the phone because
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> weren't able to make it.
>>>>>> they shared information with me about my dog and were very gracious.
>>>>>> I still keep in contact with them.
>>>>>> I remember one things that was said too me. It was you're her mama
>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess many puppy raisers are very attached and have tried to get
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> dog
>>>>>> back. This happened to a friend of mine. They pulled out all of the
>>>>>> stops
>>>>>> trying to get the dog back.
>>>>>> Have a blessed day.
>>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>>> Melissa and PJ
>>>>>> It's so hard to forget pain, but it's even harder to remember
>>>>>> sweetness.
>>>>>> We have no scar to show for happiness.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lea williams"
>>>>>> <leanicole1988 at gmail.com
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey i am not sure how this works with all the schools, but when do
>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> normally get to meet the puppy raisers?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know how the school I am going to does it. I am going to guiding
>>>>>>> eyes and we do on graduation day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After reading a few emails on here I got to wonder why people can't
>>>>>>> asked the puppy raisers what kind of toys and things that their dog
>>>>>>> might like rather than having to try to figure it out completely
>>>>>>> themselves?
>>>>>>> I asked one about it and was told that Pilot won't let you meet the
>>>>>>> raisers until after six months.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do you feel about how your school does this? Do you mind or not?
>>>>>>> Would you rather it different?
>>>>>>> What were some benifits to meeting your puppy raisers? What kinds of
>>>>>>> things did you learn about your dog when you did?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 5
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:21:51 -0500
>>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>>> Message-ID: <52bd87ef8c9ae5fba002211d751a731c.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>>>>
>>>> I carry baggies, usually a few. I like the sandwich bags that come on
>>>> a
>>>> roll and can be closed with a twist tie.
>>>> I have a couple paper towels in my coat pocket, since it's the wet
>>>> season.
>>>> I have a Gentle Leader in my purse, but haven't used it in years.
>>>> I have a telescoping cane and a folding waterdish in my backpack. I
>>>> don't
>>>> like the cloth waterdish all that much, though. I have a heck of a
>>>> time
>>>> getting it really dry, and it tends to smell. Instead, I have a
>>>> dogbowl
>>>> in my cubicle at work, so Ben can have a drink at the office.
>>>> When I go away, I take food, measured out into the baggies that will
>>>> then
>>>> pick up the, er, remains. I take a steel dogbowl, which gets either
>>>> dogfood or clothes stuffed into it for packing. I take his grooming
>>>> supplies, maybe his mutt mat, and a couple treats. Sometimes I bring a
>>>> toy, but he's not real interested in toys when we're away. He's either
>>>> working or catching up on his beauty rest.
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>>> Hey everyone
>>>>>
>>>>> I wanted to know if you and if so, how you carried the things you use
>>>>> for your dog? From my understanding which is all hear say until I do
>>>>> get my dog, aren't you suppose to carry things like bandaids etc...
>>>>> for your dog just in case something happens while out and about? If so
>>>>> what do you carry it in? Also what do you carry on you? I know I will
>>>>> learn all about this in class but, a second oppinion is just fine too.
>>>>> lol Thanks for your replies in advance.
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 6
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:47:11 -0500
>>>> From: Lea williams <leanicole1988 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meeting the puppy raisers
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <CAD0KW=bEZRFsj6T4V7PHTxM99fckE5jYpbuO3odhCjzyPCrvfw at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>
>>>> I agree with you. , if i raised a dog, I would be so worried how he
>>>> was doing with his guide dog owner.
>>>>
>>>> On 2/23/12, Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Danielle.
>>>>> Thanks for saying that. When I got my Ben from TSE, I wrote to his
>>>>> family
>>>>> to thank them and tell them that I adored him and he was settling in
>>>>> well.
>>>>> I thought that, if I'd raised him, that's what I'd want to know.
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> for confirming that opinion.
>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> From a puppy raiser's perspective it is kidn of hard to imagine
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> doing things like that. I raise puppies for TSE. And it is hard to
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> contact with the handlers, but not for the reasons you may think.
>>>>>> It's
>>>>>> hard
>>>>>> because we love to hear that they are loved. I get into this fully
>>>>>> aware
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the fact that once they leave I will not see them again and will not
>>>>>> hear
>>>>>> how they are. I can be okay with all that. It just is incredible to
>>>>>> hear
>>>>>> that our dogs are loved, and happy. That's all I have ever wanted for
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> puppies and to me it's the most important thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So to those of you who have had bad experience with puppy raiser
>>>>>> contact
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> am sorry. But please dont' let it stamp judgments on the rest of us.
>>>>>> And
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> everyone who has a guide dog who wen tthrough a puppy raising
>>>>>> program,
>>>>>> please know how much your loving yoru dog really means to each of us.
>>>>>> We
>>>>>> don't want tons of thanks or anything like that. Knowing our dogs are
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> there, with new dog mom's and dad's and having the time of their
>>>>>> lives,
>>>>>> that's what we care about. And, th emajority of us, know that going
>>>>>> into
>>>>>> it. And are more then okay with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't mind that TSE doesn't allow me to know the handlers the
>>>>>> puppies
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> raise go to. I trust TSE to make a good selection of handlers and
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> would only match my dog with someone who is going to care about them
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> least as much, if not more then I do. each pup has left their mark in
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> heart, but it makes me happiest knowing they are off doing great
>>>>>> things,
>>>>>> and enjoying their lives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, once these dogs become yours, love them to bits. As puppy raisers
>>>>>> that's all we really hope for.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alright, haha off the soap box. :) Thanks for reading haha.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Danielle, and TSE puppy in training "J-love" (to maintain TSE
>>>>>> confidentiality policies I refer to my puppies by nickanmes on email
>>>>>> list)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Melissa Green <graduate56 at juno.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> GDF has a celebration sunday. That is when you meet your puppy
>>>>>>> raisers.
>>>>>>> I was able to talk with my dog's puppy raisers on the phone because
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> weren't able to make it.
>>>>>>> they shared information with me about my dog and were very gracious.
>>>>>>> I still keep in contact with them.
>>>>>>> I remember one things that was said too me. It was you're her mama
>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess many puppy raisers are very attached and have tried to get
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> dog
>>>>>>> back. This happened to a friend of mine. They pulled out all of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> stops
>>>>>>> trying to get the dog back.
>>>>>>> Have a blessed day.
>>>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>>>> Melissa and PJ
>>>>>>> It's so hard to forget pain, but it's even harder to remember
>>>>>>> sweetness.
>>>>>>> We have no scar to show for happiness.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lea williams"
>>>>>>> <leanicole1988 at gmail.com
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey i am not sure how this works with all the schools, but when do
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> normally get to meet the puppy raisers?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know how the school I am going to does it. I am going to guiding
>>>>>>>> eyes and we do on graduation day.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After reading a few emails on here I got to wonder why people can't
>>>>>>>> asked the puppy raisers what kind of toys and things that their dog
>>>>>>>> might like rather than having to try to figure it out completely
>>>>>>>> themselves?
>>>>>>>> I asked one about it and was told that Pilot won't let you meet the
>>>>>>>> raisers until after six months.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How do you feel about how your school does this? Do you mind or
>>>>>>>> not?
>>>>>>>> Would you rather it different?
>>>>>>>> What were some benifits to meeting your puppy raisers? What kinds
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> things did you learn about your dog when you did?
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 7
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:53:08 -0600
>>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meeting the puppy raisers
>>>> Message-ID: <F4007AFB-D025-4EC8-9692-02D760076E9B at gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>
>>>> I have a sense that I would worry for a while; then I would be involved
>>>> with
>>>> my new pup just as we are with the guides. But what a lovely, heart
>>>> felt
>>>> message that was. Also, I've wondered, what if you were a puppy raiser
>>>> and
>>>> you met your dog's new handler but for some reason there was this "I
>>>> don't
>>>> like or trust that person" sense. It could happen. I would worry the
>>>> more
>>>> about the dog then.
>>>>
>>>> I do think, though, that people should have the option as our Bill of
>>>> Rights
>>>> says.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Lou
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 8
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:11:17 -0800
>>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>>> Message-ID: <339D01B29968409486C24BEE66771D17 at stanford.edu>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>
>>>> I don't carry a gentle leader. They gave us one at GDB, and we had to
>>>> work a
>>>> route using it. The one time that I thought that Lexia would need it
>>>> once
>>>>
>>>> I
>>>> got home, she refused to work in it. I put it on her, and she just
>>>> stood
>>>> there like, "You know that I don't need this. Get this ridiculous thing
>>>> off
>>>> of me, or else I'm not going..
>>>> I have a hard plastic bowl that "folds" down and has a lid, a soft
>>>> bowl
>>>> that rolls up into a tiny bundle, and a cloth bowl. The cloth bowl only
>>>> ever
>>>> gets used for food.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:21 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I carry baggies, usually a few. I like the sandwich bags that come on
>>>>>a
>>>>> roll and can be closed with a twist tie.
>>>>> I have a couple paper towels in my coat pocket, since it's the wet
>>>>> season.
>>>>> I have a Gentle Leader in my purse, but haven't used it in years.
>>>>> I have a telescoping cane and a folding waterdish in my backpack. I
>>>>> don't
>>>>> like the cloth waterdish all that much, though. I have a heck of a
>>>>> time
>>>>> getting it really dry, and it tends to smell. Instead, I have a
>>>>> dogbowl
>>>>> in my cubicle at work, so Ben can have a drink at the office.
>>>>> When I go away, I take food, measured out into the baggies that will
>>>>> then
>>>>> pick up the, er, remains. I take a steel dogbowl, which gets either
>>>>> dogfood or clothes stuffed into it for packing. I take his grooming
>>>>> supplies, maybe his mutt mat, and a couple treats. Sometimes I bring
>>>>> a
>>>>> toy, but he's not real interested in toys when we're away. He's
>>>>> either
>>>>> working or catching up on his beauty rest.
>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey everyone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wanted to know if you and if so, how you carried the things you use
>>>>>> for your dog? From my understanding which is all hear say until I do
>>>>>> get my dog, aren't you suppose to carry things like bandaids etc...
>>>>>> for your dog just in case something happens while out and about? If
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> what do you carry it in? Also what do you carry on you? I know I will
>>>>>> learn all about this in class but, a second oppinion is just fine
>>>>>> too.
>>>>>> lol Thanks for your replies in advance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 9
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:12:53 -0800
>>>> From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>> Message-ID: <0EFAF0DCCFBA4015B9FC00405CE0E04D at lindagwizdak>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>
>>>> Danielle,
>>>> I have Landon from The Seeing Eye and I love him lots!
>>>>
>>>> I get to see our local puppy raisers from the California schools every
>>>> fall
>>>> when we put on our annual puppy raiser appreciation lunch here in San
>>>> Diego.
>>>> There are no TSE raisers out here.
>>>>
>>>> I do know of some people who had bad experiences with their dog's puppy
>>>> raiser and I do know that this is no reflection on the rest of you.
>>>> The
>>>> people I've met are incredible and we enjoy honoring them at ouor lunch
>>>> that
>>>> we've done annually since 1990.
>>>>
>>>> As far as TSE policy about raisers meeting grads, who knows if that
>>>> will
>>>> change or not - depends on the grads wishes i suppose. I don't care
>>>> one
>>>> way
>>>> or another and I do know that some grads have strong opinions for
>>>> either
>>>> side of the issue.
>>>>
>>>> WE all do appreciate all that puppy raisers do and I know it isn't an
>>>> easy
>>>> job. Thank you all!
>>>>
>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Danielle Larsen" <dnlarsen75 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:50 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From a puppy raiser's perspective it is kidn of hard to imagine people
>>>>> doing things like that. I raise puppies for TSE. And it is hard to not
>>>>> have
>>>>> contact with the handlers, but not for the reasons you may think. It's
>>>>> hard
>>>>> because we love to hear that they are loved. I get into this fully
>>>>> aware
>>>>> of
>>>>> the fact that once they leave I will not see them again and will not
>>>>> hear
>>>>> how they are. I can be okay with all that. It just is incredible to
>>>>> hear
>>>>> that our dogs are loved, and happy. That's all I have ever wanted for
>>>>> my
>>>>> puppies and to me it's the most important thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> So to those of you who have had bad experience with puppy raiser
>>>>> contact
>>>>>
>>>>> I
>>>>> am sorry. But please dont' let it stamp judgments on the rest of us.
>>>>> And
>>>>> to
>>>>> everyone who has a guide dog who wen tthrough a puppy raising program,
>>>>> please know how much your loving yoru dog really means to each of us.
>>>>> We
>>>>> don't want tons of thanks or anything like that. Knowing our dogs are
>>>>> out
>>>>> there, with new dog mom's and dad's and having the time of their
>>>>> lives,
>>>>> that's what we care about. And, th emajority of us, know that going
>>>>> into
>>>>> it. And are more then okay with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't mind that TSE doesn't allow me to know the handlers the
>>>>> puppies
>>>>> I
>>>>> raise go to. I trust TSE to make a good selection of handlers and that
>>>>> they
>>>>> would only match my dog with someone who is going to care about them
>>>>> at
>>>>> least as much, if not more then I do. each pup has left their mark in
>>>>> my
>>>>> heart, but it makes me happiest knowing they are off doing great
>>>>> things,
>>>>> and enjoying their lives.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, once these dogs become yours, love them to bits. As puppy raisers
>>>>> that's all we really hope for.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alright, haha off the soap box. :) Thanks for reading haha.
>>>>>
>>>>> Danielle, and TSE puppy in training "J-love" (to maintain TSE
>>>>> confidentiality policies I refer to my puppies by nickanmes on email
>>>>> list)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Melissa Green <graduate56 at juno.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> GDF has a celebration sunday. That is when you meet your puppy
>>>>>> raisers.
>>>>>> I was able to talk with my dog's puppy raisers on the phone because
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> weren't able to make it.
>>>>>> they shared information with me about my dog and were very gracious.
>>>>>> I still keep in contact with them.
>>>>>> I remember one things that was said too me. It was you're her mama
>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess many puppy raisers are very attached and have tried to get
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> dog
>>>>>> back. This happened to a friend of mine. They pulled out all of the
>>>>>> stops
>>>>>> trying to get the dog back.
>>>>>> Have a blessed day.
>>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>>> Melissa and PJ
>>>>>> It's so hard to forget pain, but it's even harder to remember
>>>>>> sweetness.
>>>>>> We have no scar to show for happiness.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lea williams"
>>>>>> <leanicole1988 at gmail.com
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey i am not sure how this works with all the schools, but when do
>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> normally get to meet the puppy raisers?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know how the school I am going to does it. I am going to guiding
>>>>>>> eyes and we do on graduation day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After reading a few emails on here I got to wonder why people can't
>>>>>>> asked the puppy raisers what kind of toys and things that their dog
>>>>>>> might like rather than having to try to figure it out completely
>>>>>>> themselves?
>>>>>>> I asked one about it and was told that Pilot won't let you meet the
>>>>>>> raisers until after six months.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do you feel about how your school does this? Do you mind or not?
>>>>>>> Would you rather it different?
>>>>>>> What were some benifits to meeting your puppy raisers? What kinds of
>>>>>>> things did you learn about your dog when you did?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/**listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org<http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
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>>>>>>> graduate56%40juno.com<http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/graduate56%40juno.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 10
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:29:58 -0500
>>>> From: "keri" <wvucountrygirl729 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] looking for a dog
>>>> Message-ID: <70DB44431D0D44E7A261A3D6DE4E50F3 at klhurstl1>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>
>>>> Greetings,
>>>>
>>>> I attended the Sesy program (seeing eye seminar for youth) in October
>>>> of
>>>> 2010 and got to work with a golden cross named skyler. I'd like to
>>>> speak
>>>> to
>>>> the current owner of skyler, or puppy raiser if either are currently on
>>>> this
>>>> list. I think of him quite offten. He was my final decition in deciding
>>>> to
>>>> get a seeing eye dog. I'd like to know how he is doing. If anyone has
>>>> any
>>>> information that they could share I'd appreciate it. Seeing eye is also
>>>> looking to see if they can tell me how he is as well.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> keri
>>>>
>>>> "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I
>>>> want
>>>> to
>>>> say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes will
>>>> speak
>>>> my heart."
>>>> --Robert Sexton
>>>>
>>>> "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth
>>>> there
>>>> is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart
>>>> somewhere
>>>>
>>>> to
>>>> receive it."
>>>> --Ivan Panin
>>>>
>>>> Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart &
>>>> put
>>>>
>>>> it
>>>> back together; Replacing it with a piece of his.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 11
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:46:53 -0600
>>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] looking for a dog
>>>> Message-ID: <8A3D3229-9F40-41C4-95A3-7D339AF43C37 at gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>
>>>> Was that the dog's real name for sure?
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Lou
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 2:29 PM, keri wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>
>>>>> I attended the Sesy program (seeing eye seminar for youth) in October
>>>>> of
>>>>> 2010 and got to work with a golden cross named skyler. I'd like to
>>>>> speak
>>>>> to the current owner of skyler, or puppy raiser if either are
>>>>> currently
>>>>> on
>>>>> this list. I think of him quite offten. He was my final decition in
>>>>> deciding to get a seeing eye dog. I'd like to know how he is doing. If
>>>>> anyone has any information that they could share I'd appreciate it.
>>>>> Seeing
>>>>> eye is also looking to see if they can tell me how he is as well.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> keri
>>>>>
>>>>> "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I
>>>>> want
>>>>> to say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes
>>>>> will
>>>>> speak my heart."
>>>>> --Robert Sexton
>>>>>
>>>>> "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth
>>>>> there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart
>>>>> somewhere to receive it."
>>>>> --Ivan Panin
>>>>>
>>>>> Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart &
>>>>> put
>>>>> it back together; Replacing it with a piece of his.
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/cindyray%40gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 12
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:42:49 -0700
>>>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>>>> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] more crazy weather
>>>> Message-ID: <397F49951B2C4C76B2C8F97A2137844A at bibi>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>
>>>> Hi, all,
>>>> Sub says it all.
>>>> Earlier this morning around 2:45 AM, Odie had to go to the bathroom, so
>>>> I
>>>> ended up having to get Dale's attention.
>>>> When Odie and Dale went outtside, they almost didn't make it out of the
>>>> building.
>>>> The wind was blowing hard and it seemed like blizard conditions as the
>>>> snow
>>>> was blowing around too.
>>>> Both Dale and Odie were hit in their faces.
>>>> The conditions briefly blinded them for a few minutes to where neither
>>>> could
>>>> see.
>>>> Odie had stopped near an area that is all rock to prevent dogs from
>>>> going
>>>> over there since it's not pet related.
>>>> Dale asked him if he wanted to go further which Odie ended up doing.
>>>> He went straight for the pet area to take care of duty.
>>>> Once they got inside again, Dale dried off and helped Odie get dried
>>>> off
>>>> too.
>>>> Some school districts were closed for today and others places did have
>>>> a
>>>> delay.
>>>> I'm ready for the weather to stay stable for a while so Odie and I
>>>> would
>>>> be
>>>> able to get out and get some more walking in.
>>>> *Smiles*
>>>> Bibi, husband Dale and Odie
>>>> medical alert service dog
>>>> the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 13
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:50:23 -0700
>>>> From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>>> Message-ID: <auto-000033166570 at fe-2.cluster1.bresnan.net>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>
>>>> Hi it's good to see you back on the list.
>>>>
>>>> Sheila Leigland
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 14
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:20:14 -0500
>>>> From: "keri" <wvucountrygirl729 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] looking for a dog
>>>> Message-ID: <5F87914491FC410997ABD727F140FDF0 at klhurstl1>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>
>>>> yes.
>>>> keri
>>>>
>>>> "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I
>>>> want
>>>> to
>>>> say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes will
>>>> speak
>>>> my heart."
>>>> --Robert Sexton
>>>>
>>>> "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth
>>>> there
>>>> is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart
>>>> somewhere
>>>>
>>>> to
>>>> receive it."
>>>> --Ivan Panin
>>>>
>>>> Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart &
>>>> put
>>>>
>>>> it
>>>> back together; Replacing it with a piece of his.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 3:46 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] looking for a dog
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Was that the dog's real name for sure?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Lou
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 2:29 PM, keri wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I attended the Sesy program (seeing eye seminar for youth) in October
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> 2010 and got to work with a golden cross named skyler. I'd like to
>>>>>> speak
>>>>>> to the current owner of skyler, or puppy raiser if either are
>>>>>> currently
>>>>>> on this list. I think of him quite offten. He was my final decition
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> deciding to get a seeing eye dog. I'd like to know how he is doing.
>>>>>> If
>>>>>> anyone has any information that they could share I'd appreciate it.
>>>>>> Seeing eye is also looking to see if they can tell me how he is as
>>>>>> well.
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> keri
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I
>>>>>> want
>>>>>> to say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> speak my heart."
>>>>>> --Robert Sexton
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every
>>>>>> truth
>>>>>> there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart
>>>>>> somewhere to receive it."
>>>>>> --Ivan Panin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart &
>>>>>> put
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it back together; Replacing it with a piece of his.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/cindyray%40gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/wvucountrygirl729%40gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 15
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:24:05 -0500
>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] more crazy weather
>>>> Message-ID: <8100B5D5922B43298CE10B5D82CFF38F at yourec0540d030>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>
>>>> And we're getting it in a few hours! Thanks!!
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>>>> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:42 PM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] more crazy weather
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, all,
>>>>> Sub says it all.
>>>>> Earlier this morning around 2:45 AM, Odie had to go to the bathroom,
>>>>> so
>>>>> I
>>>>> ended up having to get Dale's attention.
>>>>> When Odie and Dale went outtside, they almost didn't make it out of
>>>>> the
>>>>> building.
>>>>> The wind was blowing hard and it seemed like blizard conditions as the
>>>>> snow was blowing around too.
>>>>> Both Dale and Odie were hit in their faces.
>>>>> The conditions briefly blinded them for a few minutes to where neither
>>>>> could see.
>>>>> Odie had stopped near an area that is all rock to prevent dogs from
>>>>> going
>>>>> over there since it's not pet related.
>>>>> Dale asked him if he wanted to go further which Odie ended up doing.
>>>>> He went straight for the pet area to take care of duty.
>>>>> Once they got inside again, Dale dried off and helped Odie get dried
>>>>> off
>>>>> too.
>>>>> Some school districts were closed for today and others places did have
>>>>> a
>>>>> delay.
>>>>> I'm ready for the weather to stay stable for a while so Odie and I
>>>>> would
>>>>> be able to get out and get some more walking in.
>>>>> *Smiles*
>>>>> Bibi, husband Dale and Odie
>>>>> medical alert service dog
>>>>> the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/lkeeler%40comcast.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 16
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:27:46 -0700
>>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update
>>>> Message-ID: <D82832BE7FF04D26B9C9D51CF319B3D2 at sansb0623c4f07>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>
>>>> Right on, Jess. Isn't that always the way it goes in relationships,
>>>> they
>>>> happen when no one is looking? Lol. Anyway, congrats again.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jessica" <anewheart0910groups at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 3:43 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Natalie
>>>> We met through a friend of a friend actually. I had known of him for
>>>> about 5
>>>> years going on but we just started really talking in Aug. of 2010. I
>>>> remember me saying I am not looking for a thing haha and him saying
>>>> great
>>>>
>>>> me
>>>> either. 6 months later, I was on a plane to dc arriving in ice and snow
>>>> which had never seen before and the rest is history. He has a black lab
>>>> named Figby. He is a gentle boy but is also 8. He got his in 06 in
>>>> Oregon
>>>>
>>>> at
>>>> gdb.
>>>> Jess
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 7:23 PM
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jessica,
>>>>> Congratulations on your upcoming wedding. What kind of dog does your
>>>>> husband have? Did you guys meet at the GDB campus. Anyway, Liam and
>>>>> I
>>>>> wish you guys the best. He and I were trained at GDA, and my
>>>>> boyfriend
>>>>> just received his third successor dog from the Oregon campus at GDB.
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Jessica" <anewheart0910groups at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 9:35 AM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Update
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi All
>>>>> As I was going through message it has been a while since I have
>>>>> posted.
>>>>> I'm Jessica and have Saunders. He is a yellow lab from GDB's Oregon
>>>>> campus. He is a cuddle bunny but then can be totally hyper. Right now
>>>>> am
>>>>> planning my wedding. I am getting married in April and my fianc?'s dog
>>>>> came from the same place but is 4 years older than mine. I am nervous
>>>>> because am moving from a small town in Fl to Washington Dc's metro
>>>>> area
>>>>> but am excited to really put Mr. Saunders to work. He has done great
>>>>> on
>>>>> our visits and I even think he works better when he is there. He just
>>>>> seems to be more focused and not as sniffy as when he walks down these
>>>>> roads at home. Hope everyone is doing well
>>>>> Jessica
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/nrorrell%40qwest.net
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/anewheart0910groups%40gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 17
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:37:28 -0700
>>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>> Message-ID: <8CF2080BF1934B7C861677F64A3752E1 at sansb0623c4f07>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>> Glad to hear you and your new partner are doing well, aside from the
>>>> horseradish about the relief area. It's such a double standard people
>>>> have.
>>>> They don't choose to clean up after their pets, but when it comes to
>>>> our
>>>> guide dogs, boy howdy, we'd better tidy up, or else. Praying you can
>>>> get
>>>> this thing solved.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:32 PM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello fellow guide dog handlers,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yesterday, I was talking to the ODS office hear at my college. They
>>>>> mentioned the guide dog relieving area again. I personally am removing
>>>>> all
>>>>>
>>>>> of my dog's deposits; however, I am being blamed for leaving them
>>>>> behind.
>>>>> To make this worse, they are blaming me for deposits in areas ware my
>>>>> dog
>>>>> does not go.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is just me venting, however this BS has to stop. Other than the
>>>>> problems caused by other people my new guide dog and I are doing well
>>>>> and
>>>>> bonding nicely.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/nrorrell%40qwest.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 18
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:40:42 -0700
>>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>> Message-ID: <A094CAEAC96A471580DB1BB33AA2FE43 at sansb0623c4f07>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>
>>>> Whoa, Mark, now that is one heck of a power chewer! One time Liam
>>>> broke
>>>> his
>>>> leash in half wanting to go into the swimming pool with me.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:05 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Nicole,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, I will have to get my dog some of those. My dog seems to be
>>>>> able
>>>>> to chew threw anything including quarter inch steal cable. This is a
>>>>> funny
>>>>>
>>>>> story. During the day, my dog is allowed to Rome free around my dorm
>>>>> room;
>>>>>
>>>>> however, when I am asleep I put him on tie down so that I know he
>>>>> won't
>>>>> be
>>>>>
>>>>> getting into mischief. He had other plans. While I was asleep, my dog
>>>>> bit
>>>>> his tie down in half. This is not a wimpy tie down from a pet store,
>>>>> but
>>>>> instead the one provided by the school. It is made of a strong braided
>>>>> cable with some sort of plastic coating. One end has an "I splice" in
>>>>> it,
>>>>> and the other has a strong swivel hook. I rap this cable around my bed
>>>>> post, feeding the swivel hook end threw the loop created by the "I
>>>>> splice." My dog bit this cable in half at some point during the night.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:44 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes: goughnut
>>>>>> No, it is not misspelled. They are not 100% indestructible, but they
>>>>>> last
>>>>>>
>>>>>> several months. When your dog does finally manage to chew through the
>>>>>> top
>>>>>>
>>>>>> layer of rubber, you can send it in for a replacement. They come in
>>>>>> rubber rings and rubber sticks. They come in green and black, with
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> black being more durable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:38 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you think of the wellness 95% beef canned dog food for
>>>>>>> supplemental feeding? Anyone have experience with it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, anyone feed there dogs a raw diet? I don't think this is
>>>>>>> logistically possible for me in my current situation of living in a
>>>>>>> dorm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> room; however, I am interested in learning more about it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another thing, anyone have suggestions for truly indestructible chew
>>>>>>> toys?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/ntorcolini%40wavecable.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/kramc11%40gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/nrorrell%40qwest.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 19
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:42:39 -0500
>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>> Message-ID: <835BFB7696064661832458077EC330AF at cadiganpc>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>
>>>> just the other day someone remarked that I was doing a good job picking
>>>> up
>>>> after the dog for a change. My response was the one fingered salute. He
>>>> was
>>>> quite deserving of that, because he said it quite nastily.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:37 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>> Glad to hear you and your new partner are doing well, aside from the
>>>>> horseradish about the relief area. It's such a double standard people
>>>>> have. They don't choose to clean up after their pets, but when it
>>>>> comes
>>>>> to
>>>>>
>>>>> our guide dogs, boy howdy, we'd better tidy up, or else. Praying you
>>>>> can
>>>>> get this thing solved.
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:32 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello fellow guide dog handlers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yesterday, I was talking to the ODS office hear at my college. They
>>>>>> mentioned the guide dog relieving area again. I personally am
>>>>>> removing
>>>>>> all of my dog's deposits; however, I am being blamed for leaving them
>>>>>> behind. To make this worse, they are blaming me for deposits in areas
>>>>>> ware my dog does not go.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is just me venting, however this BS has to stop. Other than the
>>>>>> problems caused by other people my new guide dog and I are doing well
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bonding nicely.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/nrorrell%40qwest.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/kramc11%40gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 20
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:47:55 -0700
>>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>> Message-ID: <638B8C16691C4C4BB58AA11E8165C355 at sansb0623c4f07>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>> Personally, I don't remove my dog's harness at work. Reason being is
>>>> if
>>>> we
>>>> need to get out quickly in an emergency, or if we have to go to a
>>>> meeting
>>>>
>>>> on
>>>> the spur of the moment, as well as the no-pets thing in the workplace.
>>>> Also, if I'm at work and expected to be professional, so should my dog.
>>>> However, when we're at bowling practice with the Mile High Chapter of
>>>> the
>>>> American Blind Bowlers Association, I do take off the harness, put on
>>>> his
>>>> what I call "chill collar," which is a flat nylon collar, and attach
>>>> his
>>>> tie-down cable to one of the chairs.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:42 PM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just another quick question for all you more experienced guide dog
>>>>> handlers. When you are at work, do you leave your dog in harness, or
>>>>> do
>>>>> you take your dog's harness off. I'm talking about when you are
>>>>> sitting
>>>>> at
>>>>>
>>>>> a desk and not moving around.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I work two 8 hour shifts a week and I take my dog out of harness,
>>>>> because
>>>>> I am sitting at a desk the entire time, and I think it is unnecessary
>>>>> for
>>>>> your dog to be in harness when he is just sitting quietly under your
>>>>> desk...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Another part of this question. What is the legal answer? There is
>>>>> obviously a "no pets" policy at my work. Am I still covered by the ADA
>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>> other such laws if I remove the harness once at my desk?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No one has complained, but with my luck it is only a matter of time.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/nrorrell%40qwest.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 21
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:49:31 -0700
>>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>> Message-ID: <694E653F188A43FB88AB61EEC8B7B13D at sansb0623c4f07>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>
>>>> Well, Nicole, I'd be interested in hearing your funny Lexia story. I'd
>>>> suppose other inquiring guide dog-minded folks want to know, lol.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:05 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>
>>>>> As has been said many times on this list and will probably be said
>>>>> many
>>>>>
>>>>> times again:
>>>>> Harnesses, leashes, vests, and other equipment is not what makes your
>>>>> guide dog a service dog.
>>>>> If you are not going anywhere, and your dog is well behaved, then,
>>>>> yes,
>>>>> take off the harness. Just make sure that he understands that this is
>>>>> only
>>>>>
>>>>> for his comfort, not so that he can go bouncing around the office.
>>>>> Write me off list if you want a funny story about Lexia.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:42 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just another quick question for all you more experienced guide dog
>>>>>> handlers. When you are at work, do you leave your dog in harness, or
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> you take your dog's harness off. I'm talking about when you are
>>>>>> sitting
>>>>>> at a desk and not moving around.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I work two 8 hour shifts a week and I take my dog out of harness,
>>>>>> because
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am sitting at a desk the entire time, and I think it is unnecessary
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>
>>>>>> your dog to be in harness when he is just sitting quietly under your
>>>>>> desk...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another part of this question. What is the legal answer? There is
>>>>>> obviously a "no pets" policy at my work. Am I still covered by the
>>>>>> ADA
>>>>>> and other such laws if I remove the harness once at my desk?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No one has complained, but with my luck it is only a matter of time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 22
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:53:20 -0500
>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>> Message-ID: <198A2EC5801A498AA37D16BB06F70808 at cadiganpc>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>
>>>> Natalie,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> he is a power chewer. I don't keep him on tie down at all any more. I
>>>> have
>>>> to be careful what toys I get him. For toys I get him
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear antlers
>>>>
>>>> Zogoflex toys from west paw design
>>>>
>>>> Mega toys from Tuffys
>>>>
>>>> And some other nearly indestructible toys I can't remember who from at
>>>> this
>>>> point.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:40 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Whoa, Mark, now that is one heck of a power chewer! One time Liam
>>>>> broke
>>>>> his leash in half wanting to go into the swimming pool with me.
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:05 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nicole,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, I will have to get my dog some of those. My dog seems to be
>>>>>> able
>>>>>> to chew threw anything including quarter inch steal cable. This is a
>>>>>> funny story. During the day, my dog is allowed to Rome free around my
>>>>>> dorm room; however, when I am asleep I put him on tie down so that I
>>>>>> know
>>>>>>
>>>>>> he won't be getting into mischief. He had other plans. While I was
>>>>>> asleep, my dog bit his tie down in half. This is not a wimpy tie down
>>>>>> from a pet store, but instead the one provided by the school. It is
>>>>>> made
>>>>>> of a strong braided cable with some sort of plastic coating. One end
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> an "I splice" in it, and the other has a strong swivel hook. I rap
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> cable around my bed post, feeding the swivel hook end threw the loop
>>>>>> created by the "I splice." My dog bit this cable in half at some
>>>>>> point
>>>>>> during the night.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:44 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes: goughnut
>>>>>>> No, it is not misspelled. They are not 100% indestructible, but they
>>>>>>> last several months. When your dog does finally manage to chew
>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>> the top layer of rubber, you can send it in for a replacement. They
>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> in rubber rings and rubber sticks. They come in green and black,
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> the black being more durable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:38 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What do you think of the wellness 95% beef canned dog food for
>>>>>>>> supplemental feeding? Anyone have experience with it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, anyone feed there dogs a raw diet? I don't think this is
>>>>>>>> logistically possible for me in my current situation of living in a
>>>>>>>> dorm room; however, I am interested in learning more about it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Another thing, anyone have suggestions for truly indestructible
>>>>>>>> chew
>>>>>>>> toys?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 23
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:17:58 -0800
>>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>> Message-ID: <5B1A37FE63E04915AF9FFA593DE9A97B at stanford.edu>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>
>>>> Natalie,
>>>>
>>>> How long are you at work for? It is of course up to you what you
>>>> do,
>>>> but
>>>> here are just my thoughts. I have written them in your message.
>>>>
>>>> Reason being is if we need to get out quickly in an emergency, or if we
>>>> have
>>>> to go to a meeting on
>>>> the spur of the moment, as well as the no-pets thing in the workplace.
>>>>
>>>> Getting out in an emergency: How long does it take for you to put your
>>>> dog's
>>>> harness on?
>>>> Spur of the moment: Same thought.
>>>> Pets at work: As has been said a million times on this list, it is not
>>>> equipment that makes a guide dog. If you are at work in one place for
>>>> more
>>>> than 2 hours, I would really recommend considering taking off the
>>>> harness.
>>>> Also, does your dog not behave if he is not wearing his harness?
>>>>
>>>> Nicole and Lexia
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 5:47 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>> Personally, I don't remove my dog's harness at work. Reason being is
>>>>> if
>>>>> we need to get out quickly in an emergency, or if we have to go to a
>>>>> meeting on the spur of the moment, as well as the no-pets thing in the
>>>>> workplace. Also, if I'm at work and expected to be professional, so
>>>>> should
>>>>>
>>>>> my dog. However, when we're at bowling practice with the Mile High
>>>>> Chapter
>>>>>
>>>>> of the American Blind Bowlers Association, I do take off the harness,
>>>>> put
>>>>> on his what I call "chill collar," which is a flat nylon collar, and
>>>>> attach his tie-down cable to one of the chairs.
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:42 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just another quick question for all you more experienced guide dog
>>>>>> handlers. When you are at work, do you leave your dog in harness, or
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> you take your dog's harness off. I'm talking about when you are
>>>>>> sitting
>>>>>> at a desk and not moving around.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I work two 8 hour shifts a week and I take my dog out of harness,
>>>>>> because
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am sitting at a desk the entire time, and I think it is unnecessary
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>
>>>>>> your dog to be in harness when he is just sitting quietly under your
>>>>>> desk...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another part of this question. What is the legal answer? There is
>>>>>> obviously a "no pets" policy at my work. Am I still covered by the
>>>>>> ADA
>>>>>> and other such laws if I remove the harness once at my desk?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No one has complained, but with my luck it is only a matter of time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/nrorrell%40qwest.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 24
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:30:24 -0700
>>>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] more crazy weather
>>>> Message-ID: <DDC0409F426F4111A4EC2C1FD475F055 at bibi>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>
>>>> Hi, Larry,
>>>> Stay safe along with your furry partners.
>>>> unfortunately, it's beyond my control as I leave it up to Mother
>>>> Nature.
>>>> Guess I'll be happily teased for now on.
>>>> *Smiles*
>>>> Bibi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 25
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 22:10:27 -0500
>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] more crazy weather
>>>> Message-ID: <39782A9DB3AA48979B20EBFEA39E4400 at yourec0540d030>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>
>>>> Sure it is! We'll be safe! Just I'll have to be sure to find my
>>>> little
>>>> snow colored dog out there!
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:30 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] more crazy weather
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, Larry,
>>>>> Stay safe along with your furry partners.
>>>>> unfortunately, it's beyond my control as I leave it up to Mother
>>>>> Nature.
>>>>> Guess I'll be happily teased for now on.
>>>>> *Smiles*
>>>>> Bibi
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 26
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:19:59 -0700
>>>> From: "Rachel Krieg" <serenityangel1983 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>>>> Message-ID: <AF3B1C57CD814CD3BA0DEBEEEFEBD2DC at yourfsyly0jtwn>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>
>>>> Hi, RJ.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it is Guide dogs of America.
>>>> Rachel
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 7:22 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Is that guide dogs of America? RJ
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:15 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I think it is really a good idea to work on the things the schools
>>>>>>want
>>>>>>us
>>>>>>
>>>>>>to work on, and I'm glad they are being a little more proactive about
>>>>>>this
>>>>>>
>>>>>>than they once were. It gives us something to work toward, and often
>>>>>>it
>>>>>>doesn't take too long to get to a place where we will be accepted. Of
>>>>>>course I could be way off base here as I don't know the whole history.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 21, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Rachel Krieg wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi, all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My interview with GDA went okay. I haven't been accepted or denied.
>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> need me to work on my street crossings and increasing my stamina. I
>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>> disappointed, but will do whatever it takes as I desperately want
>>>>>>> another dog.
>>>>>>> Rachel
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>>>>> nagdu:
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> nagdu:
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 27
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:45:27 -0500
>>>> From: "loriandleo" <loriandleo at ohiohills.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>>> Message-ID: <005901ccf2b1$42443040$75dbe504 at o4r3f1>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>
>>>> Hi Tracy,
>>>>
>>>> What is a mut ? Is this something the dog lays on? Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Lori and theGippermat
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 28
>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 22:18:58 -0700
>>>> From: Mardi Hadfield <wolfsinger.lakota at gmail.com>
>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Welcome to all the new people on the list / New,
>>>> possible future guide dog
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <CAHgwiL_8PUTwfd0FV4Phm17gEEcZNBvzS7G쁩튃�_Gw at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>
>>>> Hi every one, Welcome to all the new people on the list. I hope you
>>>> enjoy
>>>> this list as much as I do. I am Mardi and all of my guides have been
>>>> trained by myself with the help of a private trainer. I am currently
>>>> working my third guide, Shaman who is a Belgian Shepherd. I work my
>>>> dogs
>>>> from a wheelchair as I have other disabilities as well as blindness.My
>>>> first 2 guides were Siberian Huskies and it has been my dream to find
>>>> another husky to train as my guide. Well, I finally have found a dog to
>>>> train as a possible guide for myself. She is a one year old female
>>>> Black
>>>> and white,blue eyed Siberian Husky. Her name is Tipton. I am hoping
>>>> this
>>>> one works out.She appears to be very healthy but of course she still
>>>> has
>>>> to
>>>> get all the necessary health checks and she will be spayed in six
>>>> weeks.
>>>> Sadly,she has already had a litter of pups,which are unaccounted for as
>>>> she
>>>> was picked up as a stray by Animal Control, and never claimed. She has
>>>> never had any training,so I am starting at the very beginning. She is
>>>> friendly and gets along very well with my dogs and all the rescue dogs
>>>> here. She is learning about cats. She is curious about them but not
>>>> aggressive towards them. She needs to gain a lot of weight as she is
>>>> very
>>>> thin. She has a white tip on her tail and raccoon eyes and freckles on
>>>> her
>>>> white nose. We are already bonding and she is smart and willing to
>>>> learn
>>>> and wants to please me.I really hope this dog will become my next guide
>>>> dog. Shaman is in love with her.I can take my time training her as
>>>> Shaman
>>>> will still be working for a long time to come.It will take a long time
>>>> for
>>>> her to learn every thing,starting form just learning what sit means and
>>>> walking on leash. Then on to socialization and obedience and so on.I am
>>>> glad I don't need to rush her.She has a lot to learn.Tonight, she
>>>> discovered squeaker toys and she loves them! I don't think she ever had
>>>> toys before as at first she ignored them until I squeaked one and she
>>>> got
>>>> excited and began to play with it and squeak it. I will have to hide
>>>> the
>>>> toys at night or I will never get any sleep. Have a great day, Mardi
>>>> and
>>>> Shaman and Tipton, hopefully, future guide dog.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> http://wolfsinger-lakota.blogspot.com/
>>>> http://wolfsinger2-thegoldendragon.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 29
>>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:54:03 -0500
>>>> From: "loriandleo" <loriandleo at ohiohills.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>>> Message-ID: <007301ccf2b8$ce2d95e0$75dbe504 at o4r3f1>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>
>>>> Hi Rox,
>>>>
>>>> Welcome back to the list. And it's nice to meet you. I'm new to the
>>>> list,
>>>>
>>>> so
>>>> I'm sure you don't know me. So let me take this time to introduce
>>>> myself
>>>> to
>>>> you.
>>>>
>>>> My name is Lori and I live in Ohio with my Leader Dog Gipp.Gipp is a 2
>>>> year
>>>> old yellow lab and he's my second dog from Leader Dogs. He's also my
>>>> fourth
>>>> lab but my 7th dog.
>>>>
>>>> Here's what I carry for my dog. I carry a gentle leader for my dog
>>>> which
>>>> he
>>>> wears. I also carry a container of bags which you can purchase in the
>>>> pet
>>>> store. Which I keep in my purse but I also carry several news paperbags
>>>> either in my pocket, coat or in my purse. You never can have too many
>>>> pick
>>>> up bags. I also carry two clapsible bowls for food and water in my
>>>> purse. I
>>>> also will carry in my purse a portioned out meal of dog food in a zip
>>>> lock
>>>> baggy just in case I'm not home at feeding time, so if I'm out at his
>>>> meal
>>>> time I can feed him.And I will carry a water bottle for my dog in the
>>>> Spring and Summer time when were out and about. AI also will carry when
>>>> needed a towl so that I can wipe down my dog if he's wet, muggy or
>>>> dirty.
>>>>
>>>> If I'm going to be staying somewhere overnight, I will pack Gipps metal
>>>> food
>>>> bowl, a few portioned out bags of dog food depending on how many days
>>>> I'll
>>>> be away, plenty of pick up bags , his grooming tools, a towl to wipe
>>>> him
>>>> off
>>>> with if needed,a few dog treats in a baggy, a nyla bone for my dog
>>>> to
>>>> chew on and a tie down chain and some paper towls.
>>>>
>>>> i don't carry a first aid kit for my dog or me but it is something to
>>>> consider though. Take care.
>>>>
>>>> Lori and theGipper
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 30
>>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 08:23:45 -0500
>>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Mutt mat
>>>> Message-ID: <2081f14bf35b1572386a91bc6d0a10c0.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>>>>
>>>> Hi Lori.
>>>> A Mutt Mat is a small blanket for the dog to lie on. TSE gives them to
>>>> students so the dog has something to lie on in the student rooms, and
>>>> we
>>>> take them home with us. It's double-thick, quilted, heavy cotton,
>>>> washable, and folds up pretty small. I have sometimes folded it up and
>>>> stuffed it into Ben's dog dish for packing. Last time I took it
>>>> though,
>>>> I
>>>> forgot it and had to go through a bit to get it back, so now I think
>>>> twice
>>>> about taking it.
>>>> My husband and I take ballroom dancing classes, so right now the mutt
>>>> mat
>>>> is in the dance bag with our dancing shoes, so Ben can curl up on it
>>>> while
>>>> we do our thing in the studio.
>>>> Tracy
>>>>> Hi Tracy,
>>>>>
>>>>> What is a mut ? Is this something the dog lays on? Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lori and theGippermat
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 31
>>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:24:00 -0800
>>>> From: rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Welcome to all the new people on the list / New,
>>>> possible future guide dog
>>>> Message-ID: <B13385C8-711E-4C4E-A8E6-47CFDCE380DC at gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>
>>>> hi
>>>> All the best.
>>>> i hope it works out.
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 9:18 PM, Mardi Hadfield wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi every one, Welcome to all the new people on the list. I hope you
>>>>> enjoy
>>>>> this list as much as I do. I am Mardi and all of my guides have been
>>>>> trained by myself with the help of a private trainer. I am currently
>>>>> working my third guide, Shaman who is a Belgian Shepherd. I work my
>>>>> dogs
>>>>> from a wheelchair as I have other disabilities as well as blindness.My
>>>>> first 2 guides were Siberian Huskies and it has been my dream to find
>>>>> another husky to train as my guide. Well, I finally have found a dog
>>>>> to
>>>>> train as a possible guide for myself. She is a one year old female
>>>>> Black
>>>>> and white,blue eyed Siberian Husky. Her name is Tipton. I am hoping
>>>>> this
>>>>> one works out.She appears to be very healthy but of course she still
>>>>> has
>>>>> to
>>>>> get all the necessary health checks and she will be spayed in six
>>>>> weeks.
>>>>> Sadly,she has already had a litter of pups,which are unaccounted for
>>>>> as
>>>>> she
>>>>> was picked up as a stray by Animal Control, and never claimed. She has
>>>>> never had any training,so I am starting at the very beginning. She is
>>>>> friendly and gets along very well with my dogs and all the rescue dogs
>>>>> here. She is learning about cats. She is curious about them but not
>>>>> aggressive towards them. She needs to gain a lot of weight as she is
>>>>> very
>>>>> thin. She has a white tip on her tail and raccoon eyes and freckles on
>>>>> her
>>>>> white nose. We are already bonding and she is smart and willing to
>>>>> learn
>>>>> and wants to please me.I really hope this dog will become my next
>>>>> guide
>>>>> dog. Shaman is in love with her.I can take my time training her as
>>>>> Shaman
>>>>> will still be working for a long time to come.It will take a long time
>>>>> for
>>>>> her to learn every thing,starting form just learning what sit means
>>>>> and
>>>>> walking on leash. Then on to socialization and obedience and so on.I
>>>>> am
>>>>> glad I don't need to rush her.She has a lot to learn.Tonight, she
>>>>> discovered squeaker toys and she loves them! I don't think she ever
>>>>> had
>>>>> toys before as at first she ignored them until I squeaked one and she
>>>>> got
>>>>> excited and began to play with it and squeak it. I will have to hide
>>>>> the
>>>>> toys at night or I will never get any sleep. Have a great day, Mardi
>>>>> and
>>>>> Shaman and Tipton, hopefully, future guide dog.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> http://wolfsinger-lakota.blogspot.com/
>>>>> http://wolfsinger2-thegoldendragon.blogspot.com
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 32
>>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:18:37 -0800
>>>> From: rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>> Message-ID: <3F286454-FBB4-4700-94AB-29B61BBC3433 at gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>
>>>> hi mark.
>>>> you are doing your best. hugs.
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 5:42 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> just the other day someone remarked that I was doing a good job
>>>>> picking
>>>>> up
>>>>> after the dog for a change. My response was the one fingered salute.
>>>>> He
>>>>> was quite deserving of that, because he said it quite nastily.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:37 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>> Glad to hear you and your new partner are doing well, aside from the
>>>>>> horseradish about the relief area. It's such a double standard
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> have. They don't choose to clean up after their pets, but when it
>>>>>> comes
>>>>>> to our guide dogs, boy howdy, we'd better tidy up, or else. Praying
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> can get this thing solved.
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan"
>>>>>> <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:32 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello fellow guide dog handlers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yesterday, I was talking to the ODS office hear at my college. They
>>>>>>> mentioned the guide dog relieving area again. I personally am
>>>>>>> removing
>>>>>>> all of my dog's deposits; however, I am being blamed for leaving
>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>> behind. To make this worse, they are blaming me for deposits in
>>>>>>> areas
>>>>>>> ware my dog does not go.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is just me venting, however this BS has to stop. Other than the
>>>>>>> problems caused by other people my new guide dog and I are doing
>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>> and bonding nicely.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 33
>>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:05:46 -0500
>>>> From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Fw: [Nyagdu] Monthly teleconference of the travel and
>>>> tourism division meeting, Monday, February 27th
>>>> Message-ID: <A8E5507258CF466896BF1ED76AAC88EB at margoda7a829ca>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>>>> To: "travelandtourism" <travelandtourism at nfbnet.org>; "nyagdu"
>>>> <nyagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 11:15 AM
>>>> Subject: [Nyagdu] Monthly teleconference of the travel and tourism
>>>> division
>>>> meeting, Monday, February 27th
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Travel and Tourism Division, a proud division of the National
>>>>> Federation of the Blind, will be having there monthly teleconference
>>>>> on
>>>>> Monday, February 27th at 8pm Eastern, 7pm Central, 6pm Mountain, and
>>>>> 5pm
>>>>> Pacific Time.
>>>>>
>>>>> We will be discuss 2 possible tours at the National Convention, as
>>>>> well
>>>>> as
>>>>>
>>>>> any ideas that the membership may have ideas about as well. Plus
>>>>> updates
>>>>> from Peter Donahue on our website, as well a new name to our Division
>>>>> Mr.
>>>>> Daniel Carr from Texas, who is working as a co-webmaster and also as
>>>>> an
>>>>> interim board member.
>>>>> We need to finalize these things to be published in the Braille
>>>>> Monitor
>>>>> by
>>>>>
>>>>> the April Edition.
>>>>> We welcome anyone onto the calls, members of the division, members of
>>>>> the
>>>>> NFB, and those of you who do not fall under any of the categories.
>>>>> Call in directions for the call as follows.
>>>>> The call in number is 1-805-360-1000 this is not a
>>>>> toll
>>>>> free number
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> once you get the recording you will be asked to put in your
>>>>> participant
>>>>> access code which is 871517#.Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> Cheryl Echevarria, PresidentTravel and Tourism DivisionNational
>>>>> Federation
>>>>>
>>>>> of the Blind631-236-5138president at nfb-travel.com
>>>>> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheryl Echevarria
>>>>> http://www.echevarriatravel.com
>>>>> 631-456-5394
>>>>> reservations at echevarriatravel.com
>>>>>
>>>>> For daily updates read our blog at
>>>>> http://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> 02/24/12
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 34
>>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:20:32 -0500
>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>> To: "doggie" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Message-ID: <D0916687BE65401C8719B2919C692991 at yourec0540d030>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>
>>>> Hello all! I am still looking for people to form a division of guide
>>>> dog
>>>> users in the wonderful state of Michigan. I would love to hear from
>>>> you!!
>>>> My email address is, lkeeler at comcast.net email me and I will get back
>>>> with
>>>> you and give you the reest of my contact info. Also, we will tackle
>>>> some
>>>> transportation issues around the state. Thanks and hope to hear from
>>>> you
>>>> soon. Larry D. Keeler Secretary, National Federation of the Blind Ann
>>>> Arbor
>>>> chapter.
>>>> Intelligence is always claimed but rarely proven!
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 35
>>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:35:51 -0500
>>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Message-ID: <90CA55F7950D4E00893D32731CD4FD90 at Babylon5>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>
>>>> you already have my info
>>>> hope you and especially Holly are enjoying the snow, i know Lynard is
>>>> lol
>>>>
>>>> If Life Hands You A Lemon, Make Lemonaid
>>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 36
>>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:52:54 -0500
>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Message-ID: <09F00E28BB0B47D5A2E95F14BC2F6B2D at yourec0540d030>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>
>>>> Does this mean that you are interested?
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:35 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> you already have my info hope you and especially Holly are enjoying
>>>>> the
>>>>> snow, i know Lynard is lol
>>>>> If Life Hands You A Lemon, Make Lemonaid
>>>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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