[nagdu] Dry Skin Update

Juanita Herrera juanitaherrera1991 at gmail.com
Thu Mar 8 06:55:40 UTC 2012


Hi All,
Anise's fish oil capsules arrived and I've been giving them to her.
Her coat seems to be doing much better. However, when I give her the
capsule she licks it a few times, then drops it on the floor, licks it
a few more times, drops it on the floor again, annd finally eats it.
Is that normal. Haha! I'm not sure why she does that.
Best,
Juanita And Anise

On 3/7/12, Natalie <nrorrell at qwest.net> wrote:
> Hi Juanita,
> Right on.  Glad to hear Anise is doing better.  Please keep us posted when
> the fish oil tabs arrive.
> Best,
> Nat and Liam Joshua
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Juanita Herrera" <juanitaherrera1991 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dry Skin Update
>
>
>> Hello to all who replied to my message,
>> Anise is doing better. I've been brushing her well, and she still
>> seems to have tiny bits of the dry skin particles, but they are not as
>> obvious as they were the day I wrote on here. I bought her fish oil
>> capsules, and they should be on their way. I'm going to try that, and
>> see how they work. I think it was just the batheing that dried her
>> skin out because I had had her for a month an three weeks, and I had
>> never had this problem. Thank you all for replying to me.
>> Best,
>> Juanita And Anise
>>
>> On 2/28/12, Natalie <nrorrell at qwest.net> wrote:
>>> Hi Juanita,
>>> My previous guide, Whitney, had dandruff but it wasn't because of a
>>> shampoo.
>>> It was because her thyroid was low.  Not saying this is what Anise has,
>>> but
>>> that was Whitney's situation.  Praying for you, and please do keep us
>>> posted.
>>> Best,
>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Juanita Herrera" <juanitaherrera1991 at gmail.com>
>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 6:01 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dry Skin
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>> I took Anise on Tuesday to get groomed. From what the groomer told me,
>>>> she shampooed, conditioned, deeShed, and trimmed Anise's coat.
>>>> However, today I was told by someone that she has dandruff. It is
>>>> quite noticeable because she is a black lab. I am high maintenance,
>>>> and I groom her daily so I don't know if it was the shampoo they used
>>>> on her. I haven't called the groomer because they are closed now, and
>>>> they won't be back until Monday. I did some research and found that
>>>> adding a piece of avocado to her food would help control the problem,
>>>> but what do you all think? Has anyone had this happen to them? If so,
>>>> what did you do in this situation?
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Juanita And Anise
>>>>
>>>> On 2/24/12, nagdu-request at nfbnet.org <nagdu-request at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>>>>    1. Re: meating the puppy raisers (Melissa Green)
>>>>>    2. Re: meating the puppy raisers (Danielle Larsen)
>>>>>    3. Re: another update (Hannah Chadwick)
>>>>>    4. Re: meeting the puppy raisers (Tracy Carcione)
>>>>>    5. Re: guide dog cargo while on the go. (Tracy Carcione)
>>>>>    6. Re: meeting the puppy raisers (Lea williams)
>>>>>    7. Re: meeting the puppy raisers (Cindy Ray)
>>>>>    8. Re: guide dog cargo while on the go. (Nicole B. Torcolini at
>>>>> Home)
>>>>>    9. Re: meating the puppy raisers (Lyn Gwizdak)
>>>>>   10. looking for a dog (keri)
>>>>>   11. Re: looking for a dog (Cindy Ray)
>>>>>   12. more crazy weather (Criminal Justice Major)
>>>>>   13. Re: guide dog cargo while on the go. (Sheila Leigland)
>>>>>   14. Re: looking for a dog (keri)
>>>>>   15. Re: more crazy weather (Larry D. Keeler)
>>>>>   16. Re: Update (Natalie)
>>>>>   17. Re: The dog sh^t continues! (Natalie)
>>>>>   18. Re: Dog food (Natalie)
>>>>>   19. Re: The dog sh^t continues! (Mark J. Cadigan)
>>>>>   20. Re: Dogs At Work (Natalie)
>>>>>   21. Re: Dogs At Work (Natalie)
>>>>>   22. Re: Dog food (Mark J. Cadigan)
>>>>>   23. Re: Dogs At Work (Nicole B. Torcolini at Home)
>>>>>   24. Re: more crazy weather (Criminal Justice Major)
>>>>>   25. Re: more crazy weather (Larry D. Keeler)
>>>>>   26. Re: another update (Rachel Krieg)
>>>>>   27. Re: guide dog cargo while on the go. (loriandleo)
>>>>>   28. Welcome to all the new people on the list / New, possible
>>>>>       future guide dog (Mardi Hadfield)
>>>>>   29. Re: guide dog cargo while on the go. (loriandleo)
>>>>>   30. Mutt mat (Tracy Carcione)
>>>>>   31. Re: Welcome to all the new people on the list / New, possible
>>>>>       future guide dog (rhonda cruz)
>>>>>   32. Re: The dog sh^t continues! (rhonda cruz)
>>>>>   33. Fw: [Nyagdu] Monthly teleconference of the travel and tourism
>>>>>       division meeting, Monday, February 27th (Margo and Arrow)
>>>>>   34. Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users (Larry D. Keeler)
>>>>>   35. Re: Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users (William Vandervest)
>>>>>   36. Re: Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users (Larry D. Keeler)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:32:06 -0700
>>>>> From: "Melissa Green" <graduate56 at juno.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>> Message-ID: <DD19035421BB4034BEB9E1906872620C at melissa>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>
>>>>> GDF has a celebration sunday.  That is when you meet your puppy
>>>>> raisers.
>>>>> I was able to talk with my dog's puppy raisers on the phone because
>>>>> they
>>>>> weren't able to make it.
>>>>> they shared information with me about my dog and were very gracious.
>>>>> I still keep in contact with them.
>>>>> I remember one things that was said too me.  It was you're her mama
>>>>> now.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess many puppy raisers are very attached and have tried to get the
>>>>> dog
>>>>> back.  This happened to a friend of mine.  They pulled out all of the
>>>>> stops
>>>>> trying to get the dog back.
>>>>> Have a blessed day.
>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>> Melissa and PJ
>>>>> It's so hard to forget pain, but it's even harder to remember
>>>>> sweetness.
>>>>> We
>>>>> have no scar to show for happiness.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Lea williams" <leanicole1988 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey i am not sure how this works with all the schools, but when do you
>>>>>> normally get to meet the puppy raisers?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know how the school I am going to does it. I am going to guiding
>>>>>> eyes and we do on graduation day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After reading a few emails on here I got to wonder why people can't
>>>>>> asked the puppy raisers what kind of toys and things that their dog
>>>>>> might like rather than having to try to figure it out completely
>>>>>> themselves?
>>>>>> I asked one about it and was told that Pilot won't let you meet the
>>>>>> raisers until after six months.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you feel about how your school does this? Do you mind or not?
>>>>>> Would you rather it different?
>>>>>> What were some benifits to meeting your puppy raisers? What kinds of
>>>>>> things did you learn about your dog when you did?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:50:04 -0500
>>>>> From: Danielle Larsen <dnlarsen75 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>> <CAEEb73f1ukOMeo4HLPNf1MNYO1cOP1xbkwExp6obQWU-EHwkrA at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>>
>>>>> >From a puppy raiser's perspective it is kidn of hard to imagine people
>>>>> doing things like that. I raise puppies for TSE. And it is hard to not
>>>>> have
>>>>> contact with the handlers, but not for the reasons you may think. It's
>>>>> hard
>>>>> because we love to hear that they are loved. I get into this fully
>>>>> aware
>>>>> of
>>>>> the fact that once they leave I will not see them again and will not
>>>>> hear
>>>>> how they are. I can be okay with all that. It just is incredible to
>>>>> hear
>>>>> that our dogs are loved, and happy. That's all I have ever wanted for
>>>>> my
>>>>> puppies and to me it's the most important thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> So to those of you who have had bad experience with puppy raiser
>>>>> contact
>>>>> I
>>>>> am sorry. But please dont' let it stamp judgments on the rest of us.
>>>>> And
>>>>> to
>>>>> everyone who has a guide dog who wen tthrough a puppy raising program,
>>>>> please know how much your loving yoru dog really means to each of us.
>>>>> We
>>>>> don't want tons of thanks or anything like that. Knowing our dogs are
>>>>> out
>>>>> there, with new dog mom's and dad's and having the time of their lives,
>>>>> that's what we care about. And, th emajority of us, know that going
>>>>> into
>>>>> it. And are more then okay with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't mind that TSE doesn't allow me to know the handlers the puppies
>>>>>
>>>>> I
>>>>> raise go to. I trust TSE to make a good selection of handlers and that
>>>>> they
>>>>> would only match my dog with someone who is going to care about them at
>>>>> least as much, if not more then I do. each pup has left their mark in
>>>>> my
>>>>> heart, but it makes me happiest knowing they are off doing great
>>>>> things,
>>>>> and enjoying their lives.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, once these dogs become yours, love them to bits. As puppy raisers
>>>>> that's all we really hope for.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alright, haha off the soap box. :) Thanks for reading haha.
>>>>>
>>>>> Danielle, and TSE puppy in training "J-love" (to maintain TSE
>>>>> confidentiality policies I refer to my puppies by nickanmes on email
>>>>> list)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Melissa Green <graduate56 at juno.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> GDF has a celebration sunday.  That is when you meet your puppy
>>>>>> raisers.
>>>>>> I was able to talk with my dog's puppy raisers on the phone because
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> weren't able to make it.
>>>>>> they shared information with me about my dog and were very gracious.
>>>>>> I still keep in contact with them.
>>>>>> I remember one things that was said too me.  It was you're her mama
>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess many puppy raisers are very attached and have tried to get the
>>>>>> dog
>>>>>> back.  This happened to a friend of mine.  They pulled out all of the
>>>>>> stops
>>>>>> trying to get the dog back.
>>>>>> Have a blessed day.
>>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>>> Melissa and PJ
>>>>>> It's so hard to forget pain, but it's even harder to remember
>>>>>> sweetness.
>>>>>> We have no scar to show for happiness.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lea williams"
>>>>>> <leanicole1988 at gmail.com
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <
>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey i am not sure how this works with all the schools, but when do you
>>>>>>> normally get to meet the puppy raisers?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know how the school I am going to does it. I am going to guiding
>>>>>>> eyes and we do on graduation day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After reading a few emails on here I got to wonder why people can't
>>>>>>> asked the puppy raisers what kind of toys and things that their dog
>>>>>>> might like rather than having to try to figure it out completely
>>>>>>> themselves?
>>>>>>> I asked one about it and was told that Pilot won't let you meet the
>>>>>>> raisers until after six months.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do you feel about how your school does this? Do you mind or not?
>>>>>>> Would you rather it different?
>>>>>>> What were some benifits to meeting your puppy raisers? What kinds of
>>>>>>> things did you learn about your dog when you did?
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 3
>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:54:40 -0800
>>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>>>>> Message-ID: <001501ccf25c$99967830$ccc36890$@gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>>
>>>>> Rj,
>>>>> GDA is Guide Dogs of America and it is located in Southern California.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Cindy Ray
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:31 AM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not sure what you are asking me, but I think the message was in
>>>>> response to someone who was trying to make plans to go to Guide Dogs of
>>>>> America. Maybe this is just a general question attached to my message.
>>>>> Cindy Lou
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 8:22 AM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is that guide dogs of America? RJ
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:15 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think it is really a good idea to work on the things the schools
>>>>>>> want
>>>>> us to work on, and I'm glad they are being a little more proactive
>>>>> about
>>>>> this than they once were. It gives us something to work toward, and
>>>>> often
>>>>>
>>>>> it
>>>>> doesn't take too long to get to a place where we will be accepted. Of
>>>>> course
>>>>> I could be way off base here as I don't know the whole history.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 21, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Rachel Krieg wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi, all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My interview with GDA went okay. I haven't been accepted or denied.
>>>>>>>> They
>>>>> need me to work on my street crossings and increasing my stamina. I am
>>>>> disappointed, but will do whatever it takes as I desperately want
>>>>> another
>>>>> dog.
>>>>>>>> Rachel
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 4
>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:11:39 -0500
>>>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meeting the puppy raisers
>>>>> Message-ID: <346784c30cae7a200a641ccaa3b60e5b.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Danielle.
>>>>> Thanks for saying that.  When I got my Ben from TSE, I wrote to his
>>>>> family
>>>>> to thank them and tell them that I adored him and he was settling in
>>>>> well.
>>>>>  I thought that, if I'd raised him, that's what I'd want to know.
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> for confirming that opinion.
>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> From a puppy raiser's perspective it is kidn of hard to imagine people
>>>>>> doing things like that. I raise puppies for TSE. And it is hard to not
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> contact with the handlers, but not for the reasons you may think. It's
>>>>>> hard
>>>>>> because we love to hear that they are loved. I get into this fully
>>>>>> aware
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the fact that once they leave I will not see them again and will not
>>>>>> hear
>>>>>> how they are. I can be okay with all that. It just is incredible to
>>>>>> hear
>>>>>> that our dogs are loved, and happy. That's all I have ever wanted for
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> puppies and to me it's the most important thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So to those of you who have had bad experience with puppy raiser
>>>>>> contact
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> am sorry. But please dont' let it stamp judgments on the rest of us.
>>>>>> And
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> everyone who has a guide dog who wen tthrough a puppy raising program,
>>>>>> please know how much your loving yoru dog really means to each of us.
>>>>>> We
>>>>>> don't want tons of thanks or anything like that. Knowing our dogs are
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> there, with new dog mom's and dad's and having the time of their
>>>>>> lives,
>>>>>> that's what we care about. And, th emajority of us, know that going
>>>>>> into
>>>>>> it. And are more then okay with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't mind that TSE doesn't allow me to know the handlers the
>>>>>> puppies
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> raise go to. I trust TSE to make a good selection of handlers and that
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> would only match my dog with someone who is going to care about them
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> least as much, if not more then I do. each pup has left their mark in
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> heart, but it makes me happiest knowing they are off doing great
>>>>>> things,
>>>>>> and enjoying their lives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, once these dogs become yours, love them to bits. As puppy raisers
>>>>>> that's all we really hope for.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alright, haha off the soap box. :) Thanks for reading haha.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Danielle, and TSE puppy in training "J-love" (to maintain TSE
>>>>>> confidentiality policies I refer to my puppies by nickanmes on email
>>>>>> list)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Melissa Green <graduate56 at juno.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> GDF has a celebration sunday.  That is when you meet your puppy
>>>>>>> raisers.
>>>>>>> I was able to talk with my dog's puppy raisers on the phone because
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> weren't able to make it.
>>>>>>> they shared information with me about my dog and were very gracious.
>>>>>>> I still keep in contact with them.
>>>>>>> I remember one things that was said too me.  It was you're her mama
>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess many puppy raisers are very attached and have tried to get
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> dog
>>>>>>> back.  This happened to a friend of mine.  They pulled out all of the
>>>>>>> stops
>>>>>>> trying to get the dog back.
>>>>>>> Have a blessed day.
>>>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>>>> Melissa and PJ
>>>>>>> It's so hard to forget pain, but it's even harder to remember
>>>>>>> sweetness.
>>>>>>> We have no scar to show for happiness.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lea williams"
>>>>>>> <leanicole1988 at gmail.com
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey i am not sure how this works with all the schools, but when do
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> normally get to meet the puppy raisers?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know how the school I am going to does it. I am going to guiding
>>>>>>>> eyes and we do on graduation day.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After reading a few emails on here I got to wonder why people can't
>>>>>>>> asked the puppy raisers what kind of toys and things that their dog
>>>>>>>> might like rather than having to try to figure it out completely
>>>>>>>> themselves?
>>>>>>>> I asked one about it and was told that Pilot won't let you meet the
>>>>>>>> raisers until after six months.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How do you feel about how your school does this? Do you mind or not?
>>>>>>>> Would you rather it different?
>>>>>>>> What were some benifits to meeting your puppy raisers? What kinds of
>>>>>>>> things did you learn about your dog when you did?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________
>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 5
>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:21:51 -0500
>>>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>>>> Message-ID: <52bd87ef8c9ae5fba002211d751a731c.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>>>>>
>>>>> I carry baggies, usually a few.  I like the sandwich bags that come on
>>>>> a
>>>>> roll and can be closed with a twist tie.
>>>>> I have a couple paper towels in my coat pocket, since it's the wet
>>>>> season.
>>>>> I have a Gentle Leader in my purse, but haven't used it in years.
>>>>> I have a telescoping cane and a folding waterdish in my backpack.  I
>>>>> don't
>>>>> like the cloth waterdish all that much, though.  I have a heck of a
>>>>> time
>>>>> getting it really dry, and it tends to smell.  Instead, I have a
>>>>> dogbowl
>>>>> in my cubicle at work, so Ben can have a drink at the office.
>>>>> When I go away, I take food, measured out into the baggies that will
>>>>> then
>>>>> pick up the, er, remains.  I take a steel dogbowl, which gets either
>>>>> dogfood or clothes stuffed into it for packing.  I take his grooming
>>>>> supplies, maybe his mutt mat, and a couple treats.  Sometimes I bring a
>>>>> toy, but he's not real interested in toys when we're away.  He's either
>>>>> working or catching up on his beauty rest.
>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey everyone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wanted to know if you and if so, how you carried the things you use
>>>>>> for your dog? From my understanding which is all hear say until I do
>>>>>> get my dog, aren't you suppose to carry things like bandaids etc...
>>>>>> for your dog just in case something happens while out and about? If so
>>>>>> what do you carry it in? Also what do you carry on you? I know I will
>>>>>> learn all about this in class but, a second oppinion is just fine too.
>>>>>> lol Thanks for your replies in advance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 6
>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:47:11 -0500
>>>>> From: Lea williams <leanicole1988 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meeting the puppy raisers
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>> <CAD0KW=bEZRFsj6T4V7PHTxM99fckE5jYpbuO3odhCjzyPCrvfw at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree with you. , if i raised a dog, I would be so worried how he
>>>>> was doing with his guide dog owner.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/23/12, Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Danielle.
>>>>>> Thanks for saying that.  When I got my Ben from TSE, I wrote to his
>>>>>> family
>>>>>> to thank them and tell them that I adored him and he was settling in
>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>  I thought that, if I'd raised him, that's what I'd want to know.
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> for confirming that opinion.
>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From a puppy raiser's perspective it is kidn of hard to imagine
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> doing things like that. I raise puppies for TSE. And it is hard to
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> contact with the handlers, but not for the reasons you may think.
>>>>>>> It's
>>>>>>> hard
>>>>>>> because we love to hear that they are loved. I get into this fully
>>>>>>> aware
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the fact that once they leave I will not see them again and will not
>>>>>>> hear
>>>>>>> how they are. I can be okay with all that. It just is incredible to
>>>>>>> hear
>>>>>>> that our dogs are loved, and happy. That's all I have ever wanted for
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> puppies and to me it's the most important thing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So to those of you who have had bad experience with puppy raiser
>>>>>>> contact
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> am sorry. But please dont' let it stamp judgments on the rest of us.
>>>>>>> And
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> everyone who has a guide dog who wen tthrough a puppy raising
>>>>>>> program,
>>>>>>> please know how much your loving yoru dog really means to each of us.
>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>> don't want tons of thanks or anything like that. Knowing our dogs are
>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>> there, with new dog mom's and dad's and having the time of their
>>>>>>> lives,
>>>>>>> that's what we care about. And, th emajority of us, know that going
>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>> it. And are more then okay with it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't mind that TSE doesn't allow me to know the handlers the
>>>>>>> puppies
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> raise go to. I trust TSE to make a good selection of handlers and
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> would only match my dog with someone who is going to care about them
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> least as much, if not more then I do. each pup has left their mark in
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> heart, but it makes me happiest knowing they are off doing great
>>>>>>> things,
>>>>>>> and enjoying their lives.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, once these dogs become yours, love them to bits. As puppy raisers
>>>>>>> that's all we really hope for.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alright, haha off the soap box. :) Thanks for reading haha.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Danielle, and TSE puppy in training "J-love" (to maintain TSE
>>>>>>> confidentiality policies I refer to my puppies by nickanmes on email
>>>>>>> list)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Melissa Green <graduate56 at juno.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> GDF has a celebration sunday.  That is when you meet your puppy
>>>>>>>> raisers.
>>>>>>>> I was able to talk with my dog's puppy raisers on the phone because
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> weren't able to make it.
>>>>>>>> they shared information with me about my dog and were very gracious.
>>>>>>>> I still keep in contact with them.
>>>>>>>> I remember one things that was said too me.  It was you're her mama
>>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I guess many puppy raisers are very attached and have tried to get
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> dog
>>>>>>>> back.  This happened to a friend of mine.  They pulled out all of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> stops
>>>>>>>> trying to get the dog back.
>>>>>>>> Have a blessed day.
>>>>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>>>>> Melissa and PJ
>>>>>>>> It's so hard to forget pain, but it's even harder to remember
>>>>>>>> sweetness.
>>>>>>>> We have no scar to show for happiness.
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lea williams"
>>>>>>>> <leanicole1988 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey i am not sure how this works with all the schools, but when do
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> normally get to meet the puppy raisers?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I know how the school I am going to does it. I am going to guiding
>>>>>>>>> eyes and we do on graduation day.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After reading a few emails on here I got to wonder why people can't
>>>>>>>>> asked the puppy raisers what kind of toys and things that their dog
>>>>>>>>> might like rather than having to try to figure it out completely
>>>>>>>>> themselves?
>>>>>>>>> I asked one about it and was told that Pilot won't let you meet the
>>>>>>>>> raisers until after six months.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How do you feel about how your school does this? Do you mind or
>>>>>>>>> not?
>>>>>>>>> Would you rather it different?
>>>>>>>>> What were some benifits to meeting your puppy raisers? What kinds
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> things did you learn about your dog when you did?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________
>>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
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>>>>>>>>> graduate56%40juno.com<http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/graduate56%40juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Lea Williams
>>>>>
>>>>> Phone;
>>>>> 704-732-4470
>>>>> Skipe;
>>>>> Lea.williams738
>>>>> Facebook
>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100001775297080
>>>>> Twitter
>>>>> http://twitter.com/LeaNicole1988
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 7
>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:53:08 -0600
>>>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meeting the puppy raisers
>>>>> Message-ID: <F4007AFB-D025-4EC8-9692-02D760076E9B at gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a sense that I would worry for a while; then I would be involved
>>>>> with
>>>>> my new pup just as we are with the guides. But what a lovely, heart
>>>>> felt
>>>>> message that was. Also, I've wondered, what if you were a puppy raiser
>>>>> and
>>>>> you met your dog's new handler but for some reason there was this "I
>>>>> don't
>>>>> like or trust that person" sense. It could happen. I would worry the
>>>>> more
>>>>> about the dog then.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do think, though, that people should have the option as our Bill of
>>>>> Rights
>>>>> says.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Lou
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 8
>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:11:17 -0800
>>>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>>>> Message-ID: <339D01B29968409486C24BEE66771D17 at stanford.edu>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't carry a gentle leader. They gave us one at GDB, and we had to
>>>>> work a
>>>>> route using it. The one time that I thought that Lexia would need it
>>>>> once
>>>>>
>>>>> I
>>>>> got home, she refused to work in it. I put it on her, and she just
>>>>> stood
>>>>> there like, "You know that I don't need this. Get this ridiculous thing
>>>>> off
>>>>> of me, or else I'm not going..
>>>>>     I have a hard plastic bowl that "folds" down and has a lid, a soft
>>>>> bowl
>>>>> that rolls up into a tiny bundle, and a cloth bowl. The cloth bowl only
>>>>> ever
>>>>> gets used for food.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:21 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I carry baggies, usually a few.  I like the sandwich bags that come on
>>>>>>a
>>>>>> roll and can be closed with a twist tie.
>>>>>> I have a couple paper towels in my coat pocket, since it's the wet
>>>>>> season.
>>>>>> I have a Gentle Leader in my purse, but haven't used it in years.
>>>>>> I have a telescoping cane and a folding waterdish in my backpack.  I
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> like the cloth waterdish all that much, though.  I have a heck of a
>>>>>> time
>>>>>> getting it really dry, and it tends to smell.  Instead, I have a
>>>>>> dogbowl
>>>>>> in my cubicle at work, so Ben can have a drink at the office.
>>>>>> When I go away, I take food, measured out into the baggies that will
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> pick up the, er, remains.  I take a steel dogbowl, which gets either
>>>>>> dogfood or clothes stuffed into it for packing.  I take his grooming
>>>>>> supplies, maybe his mutt mat, and a couple treats.  Sometimes I bring
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> toy, but he's not real interested in toys when we're away.  He's
>>>>>> either
>>>>>> working or catching up on his beauty rest.
>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey everyone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wanted to know if you and if so, how you carried the things you use
>>>>>>> for your dog? From my understanding which is all hear say until I do
>>>>>>> get my dog, aren't you suppose to carry things like bandaids etc...
>>>>>>> for your dog just in case something happens while out and about? If
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> what do you carry it in? Also what do you carry on you? I know I will
>>>>>>> learn all about this in class but, a second oppinion is just fine
>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>> lol Thanks for your replies in advance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/carcione%40access.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>> nagdu:
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 9
>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:12:53 -0800
>>>>> From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>> Message-ID: <0EFAF0DCCFBA4015B9FC00405CE0E04D at lindagwizdak>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>
>>>>> Danielle,
>>>>> I have Landon from The Seeing Eye and I love him lots!
>>>>>
>>>>> I get to see our local puppy raisers from the California schools every
>>>>> fall
>>>>> when we put on our annual puppy raiser appreciation lunch here in San
>>>>> Diego.
>>>>> There are no TSE raisers out here.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do know of some people who had bad experiences with their dog's puppy
>>>>> raiser and I do know that this is no reflection on the rest of you.
>>>>> The
>>>>> people I've met are incredible and we enjoy honoring them at ouor lunch
>>>>> that
>>>>> we've done annually since 1990.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as TSE policy about raisers meeting grads, who knows if that
>>>>> will
>>>>> change or not - depends on the grads wishes i suppose.  I don't care
>>>>> one
>>>>> way
>>>>> or another and I do know that some grads have strong opinions for
>>>>> either
>>>>> side of the issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> WE all do appreciate all that puppy raisers do and I know it isn't an
>>>>> easy
>>>>> job.  Thank you all!
>>>>>
>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Danielle Larsen" <dnlarsen75 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:50 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> From a puppy raiser's perspective it is kidn of hard to imagine people
>>>>>> doing things like that. I raise puppies for TSE. And it is hard to not
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> contact with the handlers, but not for the reasons you may think. It's
>>>>>> hard
>>>>>> because we love to hear that they are loved. I get into this fully
>>>>>> aware
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the fact that once they leave I will not see them again and will not
>>>>>> hear
>>>>>> how they are. I can be okay with all that. It just is incredible to
>>>>>> hear
>>>>>> that our dogs are loved, and happy. That's all I have ever wanted for
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> puppies and to me it's the most important thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So to those of you who have had bad experience with puppy raiser
>>>>>> contact
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> am sorry. But please dont' let it stamp judgments on the rest of us.
>>>>>> And
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> everyone who has a guide dog who wen tthrough a puppy raising program,
>>>>>> please know how much your loving yoru dog really means to each of us.
>>>>>> We
>>>>>> don't want tons of thanks or anything like that. Knowing our dogs are
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> there, with new dog mom's and dad's and having the time of their
>>>>>> lives,
>>>>>> that's what we care about. And, th emajority of us, know that going
>>>>>> into
>>>>>> it. And are more then okay with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't mind that TSE doesn't allow me to know the handlers the
>>>>>> puppies
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> raise go to. I trust TSE to make a good selection of handlers and that
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> would only match my dog with someone who is going to care about them
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> least as much, if not more then I do. each pup has left their mark in
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> heart, but it makes me happiest knowing they are off doing great
>>>>>> things,
>>>>>> and enjoying their lives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, once these dogs become yours, love them to bits. As puppy raisers
>>>>>> that's all we really hope for.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alright, haha off the soap box. :) Thanks for reading haha.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Danielle, and TSE puppy in training "J-love" (to maintain TSE
>>>>>> confidentiality policies I refer to my puppies by nickanmes on email
>>>>>> list)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Melissa Green <graduate56 at juno.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> GDF has a celebration sunday.  That is when you meet your puppy
>>>>>>> raisers.
>>>>>>> I was able to talk with my dog's puppy raisers on the phone because
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> weren't able to make it.
>>>>>>> they shared information with me about my dog and were very gracious.
>>>>>>> I still keep in contact with them.
>>>>>>> I remember one things that was said too me.  It was you're her mama
>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess many puppy raisers are very attached and have tried to get
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> dog
>>>>>>> back.  This happened to a friend of mine.  They pulled out all of the
>>>>>>> stops
>>>>>>> trying to get the dog back.
>>>>>>> Have a blessed day.
>>>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>>>> Melissa and PJ
>>>>>>> It's so hard to forget pain, but it's even harder to remember
>>>>>>> sweetness.
>>>>>>> We have no scar to show for happiness.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lea williams"
>>>>>>> <leanicole1988 at gmail.com
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey i am not sure how this works with all the schools, but when do
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> normally get to meet the puppy raisers?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know how the school I am going to does it. I am going to guiding
>>>>>>>> eyes and we do on graduation day.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After reading a few emails on here I got to wonder why people can't
>>>>>>>> asked the puppy raisers what kind of toys and things that their dog
>>>>>>>> might like rather than having to try to figure it out completely
>>>>>>>> themselves?
>>>>>>>> I asked one about it and was told that Pilot won't let you meet the
>>>>>>>> raisers until after six months.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How do you feel about how your school does this? Do you mind or not?
>>>>>>>> Would you rather it different?
>>>>>>>> What were some benifits to meeting your puppy raisers? What kinds of
>>>>>>>> things did you learn about your dog when you did?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________
>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/**listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org<http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/**options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/**
>>>>>>>> graduate56%40juno.com<http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/graduate56%40juno.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 10
>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:29:58 -0500
>>>>> From: "keri" <wvucountrygirl729 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] looking for a dog
>>>>> Message-ID: <70DB44431D0D44E7A261A3D6DE4E50F3 at klhurstl1>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>
>>>>> I attended the Sesy program (seeing eye seminar for youth) in October
>>>>> of
>>>>> 2010 and got to work with a golden cross named skyler. I'd like to
>>>>> speak
>>>>> to
>>>>> the current owner of skyler, or puppy raiser if either are currently on
>>>>> this
>>>>> list. I think of him quite offten. He was my final decition in deciding
>>>>> to
>>>>> get a seeing eye dog. I'd like to know how he is doing. If anyone has
>>>>> any
>>>>> information that they could share I'd appreciate it. Seeing eye is also
>>>>> looking to see if they can tell me how he is as well.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> keri
>>>>>
>>>>> "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I
>>>>> want
>>>>> to
>>>>> say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes will
>>>>> speak
>>>>> my heart."
>>>>> --Robert Sexton
>>>>>
>>>>> "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth
>>>>> there
>>>>> is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart
>>>>> somewhere
>>>>>
>>>>> to
>>>>> receive it."
>>>>> --Ivan Panin
>>>>>
>>>>> Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart &
>>>>> put
>>>>>
>>>>> it
>>>>> back together; Replacing it with a piece of his.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 11
>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:46:53 -0600
>>>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] looking for a dog
>>>>> Message-ID: <8A3D3229-9F40-41C4-95A3-7D339AF43C37 at gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>>
>>>>> Was that the dog's real name for sure?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Lou
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 2:29 PM, keri wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I attended the Sesy program (seeing eye seminar for youth) in October
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> 2010 and got to work with a golden cross named skyler. I'd like to
>>>>>> speak
>>>>>> to the current owner of skyler, or puppy raiser if either are
>>>>>> currently
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> this list. I think of him quite offten. He was my final decition in
>>>>>> deciding to get a seeing eye dog. I'd like to know how he is doing. If
>>>>>> anyone has any information that they could share I'd appreciate it.
>>>>>> Seeing
>>>>>> eye is also looking to see if they can tell me how he is as well.
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> keri
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I
>>>>>> want
>>>>>> to say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> speak my heart."
>>>>>> --Robert Sexton
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth
>>>>>> there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart
>>>>>> somewhere to receive it."
>>>>>> --Ivan Panin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart &
>>>>>> put
>>>>>> it back together; Replacing it with a piece of his.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/cindyray%40gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 12
>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:42:49 -0700
>>>>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>>>>> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] more crazy weather
>>>>> Message-ID: <397F49951B2C4C76B2C8F97A2137844A at bibi>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi, all,
>>>>> Sub says it all.
>>>>> Earlier this morning around 2:45 AM, Odie had to go to the bathroom, so
>>>>>
>>>>> I
>>>>> ended up having to get Dale's attention.
>>>>> When Odie and Dale went outtside, they almost didn't make it out of the
>>>>> building.
>>>>> The wind was blowing hard and it seemed like blizard conditions as the
>>>>> snow
>>>>> was blowing around too.
>>>>> Both Dale and Odie were hit in their faces.
>>>>> The conditions briefly blinded them for a few minutes to where neither
>>>>> could
>>>>> see.
>>>>> Odie had stopped near an area that is all rock to prevent dogs from
>>>>> going
>>>>> over there since it's not pet related.
>>>>> Dale asked him if he wanted to go further which Odie ended up doing.
>>>>> He went straight for the pet area to take care of duty.
>>>>> Once they got inside again, Dale dried off and helped Odie get dried
>>>>> off
>>>>> too.
>>>>> Some school districts were closed for today and others places did have
>>>>> a
>>>>> delay.
>>>>> I'm ready for the weather to stay stable for a while so Odie and I
>>>>> would
>>>>> be
>>>>> able to get out and get some more walking in.
>>>>> *Smiles*
>>>>> Bibi, husband Dale and Odie
>>>>> medical alert service dog
>>>>> the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 13
>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:50:23 -0700
>>>>> From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>>>> Message-ID: <auto-000033166570 at fe-2.cluster1.bresnan.net>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi it's good to see you back on the list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sheila Leigland
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 14
>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:20:14 -0500
>>>>> From: "keri" <wvucountrygirl729 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] looking for a dog
>>>>> Message-ID: <5F87914491FC410997ABD727F140FDF0 at klhurstl1>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>
>>>>> yes.
>>>>> keri
>>>>>
>>>>> "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I
>>>>> want
>>>>> to
>>>>> say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes will
>>>>> speak
>>>>> my heart."
>>>>> --Robert Sexton
>>>>>
>>>>> "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth
>>>>> there
>>>>> is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart
>>>>> somewhere
>>>>>
>>>>> to
>>>>> receive it."
>>>>> --Ivan Panin
>>>>>
>>>>> Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart &
>>>>> put
>>>>>
>>>>> it
>>>>> back together; Replacing it with a piece of his.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 3:46 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] looking for a dog
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Was that the dog's real name for sure?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Lou
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 2:29 PM, keri wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I attended the Sesy program (seeing eye seminar for youth) in October
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> 2010 and got to work with a golden cross named skyler. I'd like to
>>>>>>> speak
>>>>>>> to the current owner of skyler, or puppy raiser if either are
>>>>>>> currently
>>>>>>> on this list. I think of him quite offten. He was my final decition
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> deciding to get a seeing eye dog. I'd like to know how he is doing.
>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>> anyone has any information that they could share I'd appreciate it.
>>>>>>> Seeing eye is also looking to see if they can tell me how he is as
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> keri
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I
>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>> to say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> speak my heart."
>>>>>>> --Robert Sexton
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every
>>>>>>> truth
>>>>>>> there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart
>>>>>>> somewhere to receive it."
>>>>>>> --Ivan Panin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart &
>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it back together; Replacing it with a piece of his.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/cindyray%40gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/wvucountrygirl729%40gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 15
>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:24:05 -0500
>>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] more crazy weather
>>>>> Message-ID: <8100B5D5922B43298CE10B5D82CFF38F at yourec0540d030>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>
>>>>> And we're getting it in a few hours!  Thanks!!
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>>>>> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:42 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] more crazy weather
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, all,
>>>>>> Sub says it all.
>>>>>> Earlier this morning around 2:45 AM, Odie had to go to the bathroom,
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> ended up having to get Dale's attention.
>>>>>> When Odie and Dale went outtside, they almost didn't make it out of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> building.
>>>>>> The wind was blowing hard and it seemed like blizard conditions as the
>>>>>> snow was blowing around too.
>>>>>> Both Dale and Odie were hit in their faces.
>>>>>> The conditions briefly blinded them for a few minutes to where neither
>>>>>> could see.
>>>>>> Odie had stopped near an area that is all rock to prevent dogs from
>>>>>> going
>>>>>> over there since it's not pet related.
>>>>>> Dale asked him if he wanted to go further which Odie ended up doing.
>>>>>> He went straight for the pet area to take care of duty.
>>>>>> Once they got inside again, Dale dried off and helped Odie get dried
>>>>>> off
>>>>>> too.
>>>>>> Some school districts were closed for today and others places did have
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> delay.
>>>>>> I'm ready for the weather to stay stable for a while so Odie and I
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> be able to get out and get some more walking in.
>>>>>> *Smiles*
>>>>>> Bibi, husband Dale and Odie
>>>>>> medical alert service dog
>>>>>> the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/lkeeler%40comcast.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 16
>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:27:46 -0700
>>>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update
>>>>> Message-ID: <D82832BE7FF04D26B9C9D51CF319B3D2 at sansb0623c4f07>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>
>>>>> Right on, Jess.  Isn't that always the way it goes in relationships,
>>>>> they
>>>>> happen when no one is looking?  Lol.  Anyway, congrats again.
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Jessica" <anewheart0910groups at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 3:43 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Natalie
>>>>> We met through a friend of a friend actually. I had known of him for
>>>>> about 5
>>>>> years going on but we just started really talking in Aug. of 2010. I
>>>>> remember me saying I am not looking for a thing haha and him saying
>>>>> great
>>>>>
>>>>> me
>>>>> either. 6 months later, I was on a plane to dc arriving in ice and snow
>>>>> which had never seen before and the rest is history. He has a black lab
>>>>> named Figby. He is a gentle boy but is also 8. He got his in 06 in
>>>>> Oregon
>>>>>
>>>>> at
>>>>> gdb.
>>>>> Jess
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 7:23 PM
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Jessica,
>>>>>> Congratulations on your upcoming wedding.  What kind of dog does your
>>>>>> husband have?  Did you guys meet at the GDB campus.  Anyway, Liam and
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> wish you guys the best.  He and I were trained at GDA,  and my
>>>>>> boyfriend
>>>>>> just received his third successor dog from the Oregon campus at GDB.
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Jessica" <anewheart0910groups at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 9:35 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Update
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All
>>>>>> As I was going through message it has been a while since I have
>>>>>> posted.
>>>>>> I'm Jessica and have Saunders. He is a yellow lab from GDB's Oregon
>>>>>> campus. He is a cuddle bunny but then can be totally hyper. Right now
>>>>>> am
>>>>>> planning my wedding. I am getting married in April and my fianc?'s dog
>>>>>> came from the same place but is 4 years older than mine. I am nervous
>>>>>> because am moving from a small town in Fl to Washington Dc's metro
>>>>>> area
>>>>>> but am excited to really put Mr. Saunders to work. He has done great
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> our visits and I even think he works better when he is there. He just
>>>>>> seems to be more focused and not as sniffy as when he walks down these
>>>>>> roads at home. Hope everyone is doing well
>>>>>> Jessica
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/nrorrell%40qwest.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/anewheart0910groups%40gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/nrorrell%40qwest.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 17
>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:37:28 -0700
>>>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>>> Message-ID: <8CF2080BF1934B7C861677F64A3752E1 at sansb0623c4f07>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>> Glad to hear you and your new partner are doing well, aside from the
>>>>> horseradish about the relief area.  It's such a double standard people
>>>>> have.
>>>>> They don't choose to clean up after their pets, but when it comes to
>>>>> our
>>>>> guide dogs, boy howdy, we'd better tidy up, or else.  Praying you can
>>>>> get
>>>>> this thing solved.
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:32 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello fellow guide dog handlers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yesterday, I was talking to the ODS office hear at my college. They
>>>>>> mentioned the guide dog relieving area again. I personally am removing
>>>>>> all
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of my dog's deposits; however, I am being blamed for leaving them
>>>>>> behind.
>>>>>> To make this worse, they are blaming me for deposits in areas ware my
>>>>>> dog
>>>>>> does not go.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is just me venting, however this BS has to stop. Other than the
>>>>>> problems caused by other people my new guide dog and I are doing well
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> bonding nicely.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/nrorrell%40qwest.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 18
>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:40:42 -0700
>>>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>> Message-ID: <A094CAEAC96A471580DB1BB33AA2FE43 at sansb0623c4f07>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>
>>>>> Whoa, Mark, now that is one heck of a power chewer!  One time Liam
>>>>> broke
>>>>> his
>>>>> leash in half wanting to go into the swimming pool with me.
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:05 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nicole,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, I will have to get my dog some of those. My dog seems to be
>>>>>> able
>>>>>> to chew threw anything including quarter inch steal cable. This is a
>>>>>> funny
>>>>>>
>>>>>> story. During the day, my dog is allowed to Rome free around my dorm
>>>>>> room;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> however, when I am asleep I put him on tie down so that I know he
>>>>>> won't
>>>>>> be
>>>>>>
>>>>>> getting into mischief. He had other plans. While I was asleep, my dog
>>>>>> bit
>>>>>> his tie down in half. This is not a wimpy tie down from a pet store,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> instead the one provided by the school. It is made of a strong braided
>>>>>> cable with some sort of plastic coating. One end has an "I splice" in
>>>>>> it,
>>>>>> and the other has a strong swivel hook. I rap this cable around my bed
>>>>>> post, feeding the swivel hook end threw the loop created by the "I
>>>>>> splice." My dog bit this cable in half at some point during the night.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:44 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes: goughnut
>>>>>>> No, it is not misspelled. They are not 100% indestructible, but they
>>>>>>> last
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> several months. When your dog does finally manage to chew through the
>>>>>>> top
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> layer of rubber, you can send it in for a replacement. They come in
>>>>>>> rubber rings and rubber sticks. They come in green and black, with
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> black being more durable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:38 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What do you think of the wellness 95% beef canned dog food for
>>>>>>>> supplemental feeding? Anyone have experience with it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, anyone feed there dogs a raw diet? I don't think this is
>>>>>>>> logistically possible for me in my current situation of living in a
>>>>>>>> dorm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> room; however, I am interested in learning more about it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Another thing, anyone have suggestions for truly indestructible chew
>>>>>>>> toys?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/ntorcolini%40wavecable.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/kramc11%40gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/nrorrell%40qwest.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 19
>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:42:39 -0500
>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>>> Message-ID: <835BFB7696064661832458077EC330AF at cadiganpc>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>
>>>>> just the other day someone remarked that I was doing a good job picking
>>>>> up
>>>>> after the dog for a change. My response was the one fingered salute. He
>>>>> was
>>>>> quite deserving of that, because he said it quite nastily.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:37 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>> Glad to hear you and your new partner are doing well, aside from the
>>>>>> horseradish about the relief area.  It's such a double standard people
>>>>>> have. They don't choose to clean up after their pets, but when it
>>>>>> comes
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> our guide dogs, boy howdy, we'd better tidy up, or else.  Praying you
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> get this thing solved.
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:32 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello fellow guide dog handlers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yesterday, I was talking to the ODS office hear at my college. They
>>>>>>> mentioned the guide dog relieving area again. I personally am
>>>>>>> removing
>>>>>>> all of my dog's deposits; however, I am being blamed for leaving them
>>>>>>> behind. To make this worse, they are blaming me for deposits in areas
>>>>>>> ware my dog does not go.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is just me venting, however this BS has to stop. Other than the
>>>>>>> problems caused by other people my new guide dog and I are doing well
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bonding nicely.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 20
>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:47:55 -0700
>>>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>>> Message-ID: <638B8C16691C4C4BB58AA11E8165C355 at sansb0623c4f07>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>> Personally, I don't remove my dog's harness at work.  Reason being is
>>>>> if
>>>>> we
>>>>> need to get out quickly in an emergency, or if we have to go to a
>>>>> meeting
>>>>>
>>>>> on
>>>>> the spur of the moment, as well as the no-pets thing in the workplace.
>>>>> Also, if I'm at work and expected to be professional, so should my dog.
>>>>> However, when we're at bowling practice with the Mile High Chapter of
>>>>> the
>>>>> American Blind Bowlers Association, I do take off the harness, put on
>>>>> his
>>>>> what I call "chill collar," which is a flat nylon collar, and attach
>>>>> his
>>>>> tie-down cable to one of the chairs.
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:42 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just another quick question for all you more experienced guide dog
>>>>>> handlers. When you are at work, do you leave your dog in harness, or
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> you take your dog's harness off. I'm talking about when you are
>>>>>> sitting
>>>>>> at
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a desk and not moving around.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I work two 8 hour shifts a week and I take my dog out of harness,
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> I am sitting at a desk the entire time, and I think it is unnecessary
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> your dog to be in harness when he is just sitting quietly under your
>>>>>> desk...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another part of this question. What is the legal answer? There is
>>>>>> obviously a "no pets" policy at my work. Am I still covered by the ADA
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>
>>>>>> other such laws if I remove the harness once at my desk?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No one has complained, but with my luck it is only a matter of time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/nrorrell%40qwest.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 21
>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:49:31 -0700
>>>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>>> Message-ID: <694E653F188A43FB88AB61EEC8B7B13D at sansb0623c4f07>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, Nicole, I'd be interested in hearing your funny Lexia story.  I'd
>>>>> suppose other inquiring guide dog-minded folks want to know, lol.
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:05 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    As has been said many times on this list and will probably be said
>>>>>> many
>>>>>>
>>>>>> times again:
>>>>>> Harnesses, leashes, vests, and other equipment  is not what makes your
>>>>>> guide dog a service dog.
>>>>>> If you are not going anywhere, and your dog is well behaved, then,
>>>>>> yes,
>>>>>> take off the harness. Just make sure that he understands that this is
>>>>>> only
>>>>>>
>>>>>> for his comfort, not so that he can go bouncing around the office.
>>>>>> Write me off list if you want a funny story about Lexia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:42 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just another quick question for all you more experienced guide dog
>>>>>>> handlers. When you are at work, do you leave your dog in harness, or
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>> you take your dog's harness off. I'm talking about when you are
>>>>>>> sitting
>>>>>>> at a desk and not moving around.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I work two 8 hour shifts a week and I take my dog out of harness,
>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am sitting at a desk the entire time, and I think it is unnecessary
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> your dog to be in harness when he is just sitting quietly under your
>>>>>>> desk...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another part of this question. What is the legal answer? There is
>>>>>>> obviously a "no pets" policy at my work. Am I still covered by the
>>>>>>> ADA
>>>>>>> and other such laws if I remove the harness once at my desk?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No one has complained, but with my luck it is only a matter of time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/ntorcolini%40wavecable.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 22
>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:53:20 -0500
>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>> Message-ID: <198A2EC5801A498AA37D16BB06F70808 at cadiganpc>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>
>>>>> Natalie,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> he is a power chewer. I don't keep him on tie down at all any more. I
>>>>> have
>>>>> to be careful what toys I get him. For toys I get him
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear antlers
>>>>>
>>>>> Zogoflex toys from west paw design
>>>>>
>>>>> Mega toys from Tuffys
>>>>>
>>>>> And some other nearly indestructible toys I can't remember who from at
>>>>> this
>>>>> point.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:40 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Whoa, Mark, now that is one heck of a power chewer!  One time Liam
>>>>>> broke
>>>>>> his leash in half wanting to go into the swimming pool with me.
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:05 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nicole,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, I will have to get my dog some of those. My dog seems to be
>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>> to chew threw anything including quarter inch steal cable. This is a
>>>>>>> funny story. During the day, my dog is allowed to Rome free around my
>>>>>>> dorm room; however, when I am asleep I put him on tie down so that I
>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> he won't be getting into mischief. He had other plans. While I was
>>>>>>> asleep, my dog bit his tie down in half. This is not a wimpy tie down
>>>>>>> from a pet store, but instead the one provided by the school. It is
>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>> of a strong braided cable with some sort of plastic coating. One end
>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>> an "I splice" in it, and the other has a strong swivel hook. I rap
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> cable around my bed post, feeding the swivel hook end threw the loop
>>>>>>> created by the "I splice." My dog bit this cable in half at some
>>>>>>> point
>>>>>>> during the night.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:44 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes: goughnut
>>>>>>>> No, it is not misspelled. They are not 100% indestructible, but they
>>>>>>>> last several months. When your dog does finally manage to chew
>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>> the top layer of rubber, you can send it in for a replacement. They
>>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> in rubber rings and rubber sticks. They come in green and black,
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> the black being more durable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:38 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What do you think of the wellness 95% beef canned dog food for
>>>>>>>>> supplemental feeding? Anyone have experience with it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, anyone feed there dogs a raw diet? I don't think this is
>>>>>>>>> logistically possible for me in my current situation of living in a
>>>>>>>>> dorm room; however, I am interested in learning more about it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Another thing, anyone have suggestions for truly indestructible
>>>>>>>>> chew
>>>>>>>>> toys?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
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>>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
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>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> nagdu:
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 23
>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:17:58 -0800
>>>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>>> Message-ID: <5B1A37FE63E04915AF9FFA593DE9A97B at stanford.edu>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>
>>>>> Natalie,
>>>>>
>>>>>     How long are you at work for? It is of course up to you what you
>>>>> do,
>>>>> but
>>>>> here are just my thoughts. I have written them in your message.
>>>>>
>>>>> Reason being is if we need to get out quickly in an emergency, or if we
>>>>> have
>>>>> to go to a meeting on
>>>>> the spur of the moment, as well as the no-pets thing in the workplace.
>>>>>
>>>>> Getting out in an emergency: How long does it take for you to put your
>>>>> dog's
>>>>> harness on?
>>>>> Spur of the moment: Same thought.
>>>>> Pets at work: As has been said a million times on this list, it is not
>>>>> equipment that makes a guide dog. If you are at work in one place for
>>>>> more
>>>>> than 2 hours, I would really recommend considering taking off the
>>>>> harness.
>>>>> Also, does your dog not behave if he is not wearing his harness?
>>>>>
>>>>> Nicole and Lexia
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 5:47 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>> Personally, I don't remove my dog's harness at work.  Reason being is
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> we need to get out quickly in an emergency, or if we have to go to a
>>>>>> meeting on the spur of the moment, as well as the no-pets thing in the
>>>>>> workplace. Also, if I'm at work and expected to be professional, so
>>>>>> should
>>>>>>
>>>>>> my dog. However, when we're at bowling practice with the Mile High
>>>>>> Chapter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of the American Blind Bowlers Association, I do take off the harness,
>>>>>> put
>>>>>> on his what I call "chill collar," which is a flat nylon collar, and
>>>>>> attach his tie-down cable to one of the chairs.
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:42 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just another quick question for all you more experienced guide dog
>>>>>>> handlers. When you are at work, do you leave your dog in harness, or
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>> you take your dog's harness off. I'm talking about when you are
>>>>>>> sitting
>>>>>>> at a desk and not moving around.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I work two 8 hour shifts a week and I take my dog out of harness,
>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am sitting at a desk the entire time, and I think it is unnecessary
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> your dog to be in harness when he is just sitting quietly under your
>>>>>>> desk...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another part of this question. What is the legal answer? There is
>>>>>>> obviously a "no pets" policy at my work. Am I still covered by the
>>>>>>> ADA
>>>>>>> and other such laws if I remove the harness once at my desk?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No one has complained, but with my luck it is only a matter of time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/nrorrell%40qwest.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/ntorcolini%40wavecable.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 24
>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:30:24 -0700
>>>>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] more crazy weather
>>>>> Message-ID: <DDC0409F426F4111A4EC2C1FD475F055 at bibi>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi, Larry,
>>>>> Stay safe along with your furry partners.
>>>>> unfortunately, it's beyond my control as I leave it up to Mother
>>>>> Nature.
>>>>> Guess I'll be happily teased for now on.
>>>>> *Smiles*
>>>>> Bibi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 25
>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 22:10:27 -0500
>>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] more crazy weather
>>>>> Message-ID: <39782A9DB3AA48979B20EBFEA39E4400 at yourec0540d030>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure it is!  We'll be safe!  Just I'll have to be sure to find my
>>>>> little
>>>>> snow colored dog out there!
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:30 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] more crazy weather
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, Larry,
>>>>>> Stay safe along with your furry partners.
>>>>>> unfortunately, it's beyond my control as I leave it up to Mother
>>>>>> Nature.
>>>>>> Guess I'll be happily teased for now on.
>>>>>> *Smiles*
>>>>>> Bibi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/lkeeler%40comcast.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 26
>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:19:59 -0700
>>>>> From: "Rachel Krieg" <serenityangel1983 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>>>>> Message-ID: <AF3B1C57CD814CD3BA0DEBEEEFEBD2DC at yourfsyly0jtwn>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi, RJ.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, it is Guide dogs of America.
>>>>> Rachel
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 7:22 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is that guide dogs of America? RJ
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:15 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think it is really a good idea to work on the things the schools
>>>>>>>want
>>>>>>>us
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>to work on, and I'm glad they are being a little more proactive about
>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>than they once were. It gives us something to work toward, and often
>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>doesn't take too long to get to a place where we will be accepted. Of
>>>>>>>course I could be way off base here as I don't know the whole history.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 21, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Rachel Krieg wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi, all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My interview with GDA went okay. I haven't been accepted or denied.
>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> need me to work on my street crossings and increasing my stamina. I
>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>> disappointed, but will do whatever it takes as I desperately want
>>>>>>>> another dog.
>>>>>>>> Rachel
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/cindyray%40gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>> nagdu:
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 27
>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:45:27 -0500
>>>>> From: "loriandleo" <loriandleo at ohiohills.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>>>> Message-ID: <005901ccf2b1$42443040$75dbe504 at o4r3f1>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Tracy,
>>>>>
>>>>> What is a mut ? Is this something the dog lays on? Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lori and theGippermat
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 28
>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 22:18:58 -0700
>>>>> From: Mardi Hadfield <wolfsinger.lakota at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Welcome to all the new people on the list / New,
>>>>> possible future guide dog
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>> <CAHgwiL_8PUTwfd0FV4Phm17gEEcZNBvzS7G쁩튃�_Gw at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi every one, Welcome to all the new people on the list. I hope you
>>>>> enjoy
>>>>> this list as much as I do. I am Mardi and all of my guides have been
>>>>> trained by myself with the help of a private trainer. I am currently
>>>>> working my third guide, Shaman who is a Belgian Shepherd. I work my
>>>>> dogs
>>>>> from a wheelchair as I have other disabilities as well as blindness.My
>>>>> first 2 guides were Siberian Huskies and it has been my dream to find
>>>>> another husky to train as my guide. Well, I finally have found a dog to
>>>>> train as a possible guide for myself. She is a one year old female
>>>>> Black
>>>>> and white,blue eyed Siberian Husky. Her name is Tipton. I am hoping
>>>>> this
>>>>> one works out.She appears to be very healthy but of course she still
>>>>> has
>>>>> to
>>>>> get all the necessary health checks and she will be spayed in six
>>>>> weeks.
>>>>> Sadly,she has already had a litter of pups,which are unaccounted for as
>>>>> she
>>>>> was picked up as a stray by Animal Control, and never claimed. She has
>>>>> never had any training,so I am starting at the very beginning. She is
>>>>> friendly and gets along very well with my dogs and all the rescue dogs
>>>>> here. She is learning about cats. She is curious about them but not
>>>>> aggressive towards them. She needs to gain a lot of weight as she is
>>>>> very
>>>>> thin. She has a white tip on her tail and raccoon eyes and freckles on
>>>>> her
>>>>> white nose. We are already bonding and she is smart and willing to
>>>>> learn
>>>>> and wants to please me.I really hope this dog will become my next guide
>>>>> dog. Shaman is in love with her.I can take my time training her as
>>>>> Shaman
>>>>> will still be working for a long time to come.It will take a long time
>>>>> for
>>>>> her to learn every thing,starting form just learning what sit means and
>>>>> walking on leash. Then on to socialization and obedience and so on.I am
>>>>> glad I don't need to rush her.She has a lot to learn.Tonight, she
>>>>> discovered squeaker toys and she loves them! I don't think she ever had
>>>>> toys before as at first she ignored them until I squeaked one and she
>>>>> got
>>>>> excited and began to play with it and squeak it. I will have to hide
>>>>> the
>>>>> toys at night or I will never get any sleep. Have a great day,  Mardi
>>>>> and
>>>>> Shaman and Tipton, hopefully, future guide dog.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> http://wolfsinger-lakota.blogspot.com/
>>>>> http://wolfsinger2-thegoldendragon.blogspot.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 29
>>>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:54:03 -0500
>>>>> From: "loriandleo" <loriandleo at ohiohills.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>>>> Message-ID: <007301ccf2b8$ce2d95e0$75dbe504 at o4r3f1>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Rox,
>>>>>
>>>>> Welcome back to the list. And it's nice to meet you. I'm new to the
>>>>> list,
>>>>>
>>>>> so
>>>>> I'm sure you don't know me. So let me take this time to introduce
>>>>> myself
>>>>> to
>>>>> you.
>>>>>
>>>>> My name is Lori and I live in Ohio with my Leader Dog Gipp.Gipp  is a 2
>>>>> year
>>>>> old yellow lab and he's my second dog from Leader Dogs. He's also my
>>>>> fourth
>>>>> lab but my 7th dog.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's what I carry for my dog. I carry a gentle leader for my dog
>>>>> which
>>>>> he
>>>>> wears. I also carry a container of bags which you can purchase in the
>>>>> pet
>>>>> store. Which I keep in my purse but I also carry several news paperbags
>>>>> either in my pocket, coat or in my purse. You never can have too many
>>>>> pick
>>>>> up bags.  I also carry two clapsible bowls for food and water in my
>>>>> purse. I
>>>>> also will carry in my purse a portioned out meal of dog food in a zip
>>>>> lock
>>>>> baggy  just in case I'm not home at feeding time, so if I'm out at his
>>>>> meal
>>>>> time I  can feed him.And I will carry a water bottle for my dog in the
>>>>> Spring and Summer time when were out and about. AI also will carry when
>>>>> needed a towl so that I can wipe down my dog if he's wet, muggy or
>>>>> dirty.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I'm going to be staying somewhere overnight, I will pack Gipps metal
>>>>> food
>>>>> bowl,  a few portioned out bags of dog food depending on how many days
>>>>> I'll
>>>>> be away, plenty of pick up bags , his grooming tools, a towl to wipe
>>>>> him
>>>>> off
>>>>> with  if needed,a few dog  treats  in a baggy, a nyla bone for my dog
>>>>> to
>>>>> chew on and a tie down chain and some paper towls.
>>>>>
>>>>> i don't carry a first aid kit for my dog or me but it is something to
>>>>> consider though. Take care.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lori and theGipper
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 30
>>>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 08:23:45 -0500
>>>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Mutt mat
>>>>> Message-ID: <2081f14bf35b1572386a91bc6d0a10c0.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Lori.
>>>>> A Mutt Mat is a small blanket for the dog to lie on.  TSE gives them to
>>>>> students so the dog has something to lie on in the student rooms, and
>>>>> we
>>>>> take them home with us.  It's double-thick, quilted, heavy cotton,
>>>>> washable, and folds up pretty small.  I have sometimes folded it up and
>>>>> stuffed it into Ben's dog dish for packing.  Last time I took it
>>>>> though,
>>>>> I
>>>>> forgot it and had to go through a bit to get it back, so now I think
>>>>> twice
>>>>> about taking it.
>>>>> My husband and I take ballroom dancing classes, so right now the mutt
>>>>> mat
>>>>> is in the dance bag with our dancing shoes, so Ben can curl up on it
>>>>> while
>>>>> we do our thing in the studio.
>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>> Hi Tracy,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is a mut ? Is this something the dog lays on? Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lori and theGippermat
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 31
>>>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:24:00 -0800
>>>>> From: rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Welcome to all the new people on the list / New,
>>>>> possible future guide dog
>>>>> Message-ID: <B13385C8-711E-4C4E-A8E6-47CFDCE380DC at gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>>
>>>>>  hi
>>>>>  All the best.
>>>>>  i hope it works out.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 9:18 PM, Mardi Hadfield wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi every one, Welcome to all the new people on the list. I hope you
>>>>>> enjoy
>>>>>> this list as much as I do. I am Mardi and all of my guides have been
>>>>>> trained by myself with the help of a private trainer. I am currently
>>>>>> working my third guide, Shaman who is a Belgian Shepherd. I work my
>>>>>> dogs
>>>>>> from a wheelchair as I have other disabilities as well as blindness.My
>>>>>> first 2 guides were Siberian Huskies and it has been my dream to find
>>>>>> another husky to train as my guide. Well, I finally have found a dog
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> train as a possible guide for myself. She is a one year old female
>>>>>> Black
>>>>>> and white,blue eyed Siberian Husky. Her name is Tipton. I am hoping
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> one works out.She appears to be very healthy but of course she still
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> get all the necessary health checks and she will be spayed in six
>>>>>> weeks.
>>>>>> Sadly,she has already had a litter of pups,which are unaccounted for
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> she
>>>>>> was picked up as a stray by Animal Control, and never claimed. She has
>>>>>> never had any training,so I am starting at the very beginning. She is
>>>>>> friendly and gets along very well with my dogs and all the rescue dogs
>>>>>> here. She is learning about cats. She is curious about them but not
>>>>>> aggressive towards them. She needs to gain a lot of weight as she is
>>>>>> very
>>>>>> thin. She has a white tip on her tail and raccoon eyes and freckles on
>>>>>> her
>>>>>> white nose. We are already bonding and she is smart and willing to
>>>>>> learn
>>>>>> and wants to please me.I really hope this dog will become my next
>>>>>> guide
>>>>>> dog. Shaman is in love with her.I can take my time training her as
>>>>>> Shaman
>>>>>> will still be working for a long time to come.It will take a long time
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> her to learn every thing,starting form just learning what sit means
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> walking on leash. Then on to socialization and obedience and so on.I
>>>>>> am
>>>>>> glad I don't need to rush her.She has a lot to learn.Tonight, she
>>>>>> discovered squeaker toys and she loves them! I don't think she ever
>>>>>> had
>>>>>> toys before as at first she ignored them until I squeaked one and she
>>>>>> got
>>>>>> excited and began to play with it and squeak it. I will have to hide
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> toys at night or I will never get any sleep. Have a great day,  Mardi
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Shaman and Tipton, hopefully, future guide dog.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> http://wolfsinger-lakota.blogspot.com/
>>>>>> http://wolfsinger2-thegoldendragon.blogspot.com
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 32
>>>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:18:37 -0800
>>>>> From: rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>>> Message-ID: <3F286454-FBB4-4700-94AB-29B61BBC3433 at gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>>
>>>>>  hi mark.
>>>>>  you are doing your best. hugs.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 5:42 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> just the other day someone remarked that I was doing a good job
>>>>>> picking
>>>>>> up
>>>>>> after the dog for a change. My response was the one fingered salute.
>>>>>> He
>>>>>> was quite deserving of that, because he said it quite nastily.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:37 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>>> Glad to hear you and your new partner are doing well, aside from the
>>>>>>> horseradish about the relief area.  It's such a double standard
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> have. They don't choose to clean up after their pets, but when it
>>>>>>> comes
>>>>>>> to our guide dogs, boy howdy, we'd better tidy up, or else.  Praying
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> can get this thing solved.
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan"
>>>>>>> <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:32 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello fellow guide dog handlers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yesterday, I was talking to the ODS office hear at my college. They
>>>>>>>> mentioned the guide dog relieving area again. I personally am
>>>>>>>> removing
>>>>>>>> all of my dog's deposits; however, I am being blamed for leaving
>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>> behind. To make this worse, they are blaming me for deposits in
>>>>>>>> areas
>>>>>>>> ware my dog does not go.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is just me venting, however this BS has to stop. Other than the
>>>>>>>> problems caused by other people my new guide dog and I are doing
>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>> and bonding nicely.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 33
>>>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:05:46 -0500
>>>>> From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Fw: [Nyagdu] Monthly teleconference of the travel and
>>>>> tourism division meeting, Monday, February 27th
>>>>> Message-ID: <A8E5507258CF466896BF1ED76AAC88EB at margoda7a829ca>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>>>>> To: "travelandtourism" <travelandtourism at nfbnet.org>; "nyagdu"
>>>>> <nyagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 11:15 AM
>>>>> Subject: [Nyagdu] Monthly teleconference of the travel and tourism
>>>>> division
>>>>> meeting, Monday, February 27th
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Travel and Tourism Division, a proud division of the National
>>>>>> Federation of the Blind, will be having there monthly teleconference
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> Monday, February 27th at 8pm Eastern, 7pm Central, 6pm Mountain, and
>>>>>> 5pm
>>>>>> Pacific Time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We will be discuss 2 possible tours at the National Convention, as
>>>>>> well
>>>>>> as
>>>>>>
>>>>>> any ideas that the membership may have ideas about as well.  Plus
>>>>>> updates
>>>>>> from Peter Donahue on our website, as well a new name to our Division
>>>>>> Mr.
>>>>>> Daniel Carr from Texas, who is working as a co-webmaster and also as
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> interim board member.
>>>>>> We need to finalize these things to be published in the Braille
>>>>>> Monitor
>>>>>> by
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the April Edition.
>>>>>> We welcome anyone onto the calls, members of the division, members of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> NFB, and those of you who do not fall under any of the categories.
>>>>>> Call in directions for the call as follows.
>>>>>> The call in number is             1-805-360-1000       this is not a
>>>>>> toll
>>>>>> free number
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> once you get the recording you will be asked to put in your
>>>>>> participant
>>>>>> access code which is 871517#.Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> Cheryl Echevarria, PresidentTravel and Tourism DivisionNational
>>>>>> Federation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of the Blind631-236-5138president at nfb-travel.com
>>>>>> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheryl Echevarria
>>>>>> http://www.echevarriatravel.com
>>>>>> 631-456-5394
>>>>>> reservations at echevarriatravel.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For daily updates read our blog at
>>>>>> http://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> Nyagdu:
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> 02/24/12
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 34
>>>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:20:32 -0500
>>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>> To: "doggie" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Message-ID: <D0916687BE65401C8719B2919C692991 at yourec0540d030>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello all!  I am still looking for people to form a division of guide
>>>>> dog
>>>>> users in the wonderful state of Michigan.  I would love to hear from
>>>>> you!!
>>>>> My email address is, lkeeler at comcast.net email me and I will get back
>>>>> with
>>>>> you and give you the reest of my contact info.  Also, we will tackle
>>>>> some
>>>>> transportation issues around the state.  Thanks and hope to hear from
>>>>> you
>>>>> soon.  Larry D. Keeler Secretary, National Federation of the Blind Ann
>>>>> Arbor
>>>>> chapter.
>>>>> Intelligence is always claimed but rarely proven!
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 35
>>>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:35:51 -0500
>>>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Message-ID: <90CA55F7950D4E00893D32731CD4FD90 at Babylon5>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>
>>>>> you already have my info
>>>>> hope you and especially Holly are enjoying the snow, i know Lynard is
>>>>> lol
>>>>>
>>>>> If Life Hands You A Lemon, Make Lemonaid
>>>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 36
>>>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:52:54 -0500
>>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Message-ID: <09F00E28BB0B47D5A2E95F14BC2F6B2D at yourec0540d030>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>
>>>>> Does this mean that you are interested?
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:35 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> you already have my info hope you and especially Holly are enjoying
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> snow, i know Lynard is lol
>>>>>> If Life Hands You A Lemon, Make Lemonaid
>>>>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> nagdu:
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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