[nagdu] Ownership of guide dog

[Marion Gwizdala]

Passle,
    That would be great! I am trying to put together a file with all of the 
various ownership agreements. You can send it to me off-list to

President at NAGDU.ORG Fraternally yours,
Marion


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Passle Helminski" <passle at roadrunner.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Ownership of guide dog


> Marion,
>
> I will look for my ownership agreement. Yes, Ray did say that.    I have 
> meetings in town soon but I will post my agreement to you when I return.
>
> Passle
>
>
>>Passle,
>>    Well, I am getting conflicting information. It seems to me that last 
>> August you shared that "we own our dogs as long as we are using them as 
>> guides". I asked if you had the written agreement and you only shared 
>> that this information came from Ray. If you have an ownership agreement 
>> from Pilot, it would be very helpful. All we have to go on right now is 
>> hearsay assertions - nothing objectively in writing.
>>
>>Fraternally yours,
>>Marion
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Passle Helminski" 
>><passle at roadrunner.com>
>>To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>><nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 10:06 AM
>>Subject: Re: [nagdu] Ownership of guide dog
>>
>>>  >I am a Pilot grad and I own my dog.
>>>
>>>Passle
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>R.J.,
>>>>    First of all, let me state that Pilot does not transfer ownership 
>>>> upon completion of training. In fact, I am unsure if they do at all or 
>>>> retain ownership ad infinitum. As for your question of our stand on 
>>>> ownership, I would refer you to the June 2011 Braille Monitor and the 
>>>> NAGDU Guide Dog Consumers' Bill of Rights.
>>>>
>>>>fraternally yours,
>>>>Marion
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "RJ Sandefur" 
>>>><joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>>>To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>>>><nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 10:40 PM
>>>>Subject: [nagdu] Ownership of guide dog
>>>>
>>>>>What is your opinion of a guide dog Schools retaining ownership of the 
>>>>>dog after training? I know some schools such as South eastern, and 
>>>>>piolet dogs give ownership of the guide dog to the student after 
>>>>>training. While others such as GDB retain ownership. Has the NFB made 
>>>>>an offical stance concerning this issue? RJ
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