[nagdu] Ownership of guide dog

[Julie J.]

Could one of you post it to the list when it becomes available?  I'd 
also be very interested to read it.

Thanks!
Julie



On 3/12/2012 11:57 AM, Marion Gwizdala wrote:
> Passle,
>    That would be great! I am trying to put together a file with all of 
> the various ownership agreements. You can send it to me off-list to
>
> President at NAGDU.ORG Fraternally yours,
> Marion
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Passle Helminski" 
> <passle at roadrunner.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Ownership of guide dog
>
>
>> Marion,
>>
>> I will look for my ownership agreement. Yes, Ray did say that.    I 
>> have meetings in town soon but I will post my agreement to you when I 
>> return.
>>
>> Passle
>>
>>
>>> Passle,
>>>    Well, I am getting conflicting information. It seems to me that 
>>> last August you shared that "we own our dogs as long as we are using 
>>> them as guides". I asked if you had the written agreement and you 
>>> only shared that this information came from Ray. If you have an 
>>> ownership agreement from Pilot, it would be very helpful. All we 
>>> have to go on right now is hearsay assertions - nothing objectively 
>>> in writing.
>>>
>>> Fraternally yours,
>>> Marion
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Passle Helminski" 
>>> <passle at roadrunner.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 10:06 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Ownership of guide dog
>>>
>>>> >I am a Pilot grad and I own my dog.
>>>>
>>>> Passle
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> R.J.,
>>>>>    First of all, let me state that Pilot does not transfer 
>>>>> ownership upon completion of training. In fact, I am unsure if 
>>>>> they do at all or retain ownership ad infinitum. As for your 
>>>>> question of our stand on ownership, I would refer you to the June 
>>>>> 2011 Braille Monitor and the NAGDU Guide Dog Consumers' Bill of 
>>>>> Rights.
>>>>>
>>>>> fraternally yours,
>>>>> Marion
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "RJ Sandefur" 
>>>>> <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 10:40 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Ownership of guide dog
>>>>>
>>>>>> What is your opinion of a guide dog Schools retaining ownership 
>>>>>> of the dog after training? I know some schools such as South 
>>>>>> eastern, and piolet dogs give ownership of the guide dog to the 
>>>>>> student after training. While others such as GDB retain 
>>>>>> ownership. Has the NFB made an offical stance concerning this 
>>>>>> issue? RJ
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