[nagdu] Licensing Your Dog

Tue Mar 13 15:41:45 UTC 2012

Margo,
    I have already contacted the DOJ hotline and the person I spoke with 
confirmed my assertions that it is not discriminatory to require owners of 
service dogs to pay fees or taxes required by others who own animals. Places 
of public accommodation are not required to allow access to pets and, 
therefore, may charge a fee, deposit, or other charges for that privilege. 
The requirement to pay a licensing fee does not impact a disabled 
individuals civil right to liberty.

Fraternally yours,
Marion


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Licensing Your Dog


>I would also suggest calling the department of Justice.
>
> margo andArrow
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> From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
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>> Cindy,
>>    I cannot answer this questions for you. The best I can offer is to say 
>> that one would need to ask the licensing agency what sort of proof they 
>> would accept. If the only proof they would accept would be documentation 
>> from a recognized training program and such documentation could not be 
>> provided, I suppose one would be required to pay the fee.
>>
>> Fraternally yours,
>> Marion
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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>> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 8:25 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Licensing Your Dog
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>>
>>> Well, my question isn't about paying fees. My question is about showing 
>>> proof of his service, certification that he provides a service, which I 
>>> would assume is his ID Card. Suppose, for instance, it was Julie's dog. 
>>> What would Julie use to "prove" Monty serves a purpose as a guide, 
>>> especially if it is a mail in such as this one is?
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>> On Mar 13, 2012, at 7:20 AM, Julie J. wrote:
>>>
>>>> I disagree.  The ADA clearly states that no tax or fee can be charged 
>>>> of a service dog.    I also believe that the county government is a 
>>>> public entity that is charging a fee to have a dog in it's 
>>>> jurisdiction, the land operated by the county.   Service dogs are not 
>>>> pets and are not subject to the same laws governing pets in any other 
>>>> instance.  Why would they be in this case.
>>>>
>>>> I know of no case law that addresses this issue though.  It would be 
>>>> interesting to see how it would be viewed by the DOJ or in court.
>>>>
>>>> I think the issue of license fees is very different from the free eye 
>>>> exams or similar charity programs.  Those are not a requirement and are 
>>>> not a law that must be complied with.
>>>>
>>>> JMO
>>>> Julie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/13/2012 6:55 AM, Marion Gwizdala wrote:
>>>>>   Just in case my previous message was missed, the ADA only governs 
>>>>> civil rights access to public entities and private entities that 
>>>>> provide public accommodations. Licensing requirements are not civil 
>>>>> rights, rather, they are civil responsibilities. Waiving fees for 
>>>>> service dogs is a privilege not covered by the ADA. If a jurisdiction 
>>>>> wishes to not waive or reduce licensing fees, there is no law 
>>>>> prohibiting this practice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fraternally  yours,
>>>>> Marion Gwizdala
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margo and Arrow" 
>>>>> <margo.downey at verizon.net>
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>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:56 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Licensing Your Dog
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay, what does your state law say?  what I'm getting is that they 
>>>>>> may be trying to use your state law.  Show them the ADA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Margo andArrow
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:41 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Licensing Your Dog
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, they are asking for proof of certification of service here. 
>>>>>>> YThis is a new venture here as three towns in the county have gone 
>>>>>>> together to try to get licenses collected for pets.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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