[nagdu] Licensing Your Dog

Tue Mar 13 23:34:41 UTC 2012

Okay, this is good to know and glad you got it confirmed as well.

margo andArrow
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Licensing Your Dog

> Margo,
>    I have already contacted the DOJ hotline and the person I spoke with 
> confirmed my assertions that it is not discriminatory to require owners of 
> service dogs to pay fees or taxes required by others who own animals. 
> Places of public accommodation are not required to allow access to pets 
> and, therefore, may charge a fee, deposit, or other charges for that 
> privilege. The requirement to pay a licensing fee does not impact a 
> disabled individuals civil right to liberty.
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Licensing Your Dog
>
>
>>I would also suggest calling the department of Justice.
>>
>> margo andArrow
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:38 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Licensing Your Dog
>>
>>
>>> Cindy,
>>>    I cannot answer this questions for you. The best I can offer is to 
>>> say that one would need to ask the licensing agency what sort of proof 
>>> they would accept. If the only proof they would accept would be 
>>> documentation from a recognized training program and such documentation 
>>> could not be provided, I suppose one would be required to pay the fee.
>>>
>>> Fraternally yours,
>>> Marion
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 8:25 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Licensing Your Dog
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well, my question isn't about paying fees. My question is about showing 
>>>> proof of his service, certification that he provides a service, which I 
>>>> would assume is his ID Card. Suppose, for instance, it was Julie's dog. 
>>>> What would Julie use to "prove" Monty serves a purpose as a guide, 
>>>> especially if it is a mail in such as this one is?
>>>>
>>>> Cindy
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 13, 2012, at 7:20 AM, Julie J. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I disagree.  The ADA clearly states that no tax or fee can be charged 
>>>>> of a service dog.    I also believe that the county government is a 
>>>>> public entity that is charging a fee to have a dog in it's 
>>>>> jurisdiction, the land operated by the county.   Service dogs are not 
>>>>> pets and are not subject to the same laws governing pets in any other 
>>>>> instance.  Why would they be in this case.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know of no case law that addresses this issue though.  It would be 
>>>>> interesting to see how it would be viewed by the DOJ or in court.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the issue of license fees is very different from the free eye 
>>>>> exams or similar charity programs.  Those are not a requirement and 
>>>>> are not a law that must be complied with.
>>>>>
>>>>> JMO
>>>>> Julie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/13/2012 6:55 AM, Marion Gwizdala wrote:
>>>>>>   Just in case my previous message was missed, the ADA only governs 
>>>>>> civil rights access to public entities and private entities that 
>>>>>> provide public accommodations. Licensing requirements are not civil 
>>>>>> rights, rather, they are civil responsibilities. Waiving fees for 
>>>>>> service dogs is a privilege not covered by the ADA. If a jurisdiction 
>>>>>> wishes to not waive or reduce licensing fees, there is no law 
>>>>>> prohibiting this practice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fraternally  yours,
>>>>>> Marion Gwizdala
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margo and Arrow" 
>>>>>> <margo.downey at verizon.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:56 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Licensing Your Dog
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Okay, what does your state law say?  what I'm getting is that they 
>>>>>>> may be trying to use your state law.  Show them the ADA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Margo andArrow
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:41 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Licensing Your Dog
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, they are asking for proof of certification of service here. 
>>>>>>>> YThis is a new venture here as three towns in the county have gone 
>>>>>>>> together to try to get licenses collected for pets.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>>>
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