[nagdu] the GDF ownership contract terms

Fri Mar 16 02:55:12 UTC 2012

Ditto. My major is different, but I am still am interested.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Hooper" <hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] the GDF ownership contract terms

> Hello Jenine:
>
> I must admit that you intrigued me when you said that GDF's training 
> methods are different than most other schools--would you terribly mind 
> elaborating on that (off-list, if you feel it necessary)?  I am a 
> psychology and neuroscience major, thus the researcher inside me perked up 
> his ears after reading your message.
>
> Robert Hooper
> Hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu
> The Ohio State University
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Jenine Stanley
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 9:37 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] the GDF ownership contract terms
>
> R.J.
>
> We offer home training under very specific conditions and on an individual 
> basis. This decision is made only after someone submits and application 
> and is accepted for training.
>
> We do not generally offer or recommend home training for first-time 
> handlers.
>
> I will usually advise people who have been to other schools that home 
> training is probably not the best option as some of our techniques are 
> very different. I think Southeastern and GDA are closest to our training 
> model and the next closest schools are Guide Dogs NZ (New Zealand) and 
> Guide Dogs of South Africa.
>
> Marion had a relationship with our former Chief Training Officer, mike 
> Sergeant which also helped his case for home training. It was also based 
> on his work situation.
>
> Mike Sergeant is no longer with us and we have a new Director of Training, 
> Anne Mercer, who operates under different protocols for choosing things 
> like who is eligible for home training. The Selection Committee ultimately 
> decides this issue based on the person's application, phone and in some 
> cases home interview and a host of other factors.
>
> One of these factors that plays into home training is your proximity  to 
> one of our field staff. We currently  have field staff in Georgia, 
> Florida, Virginia and New England.
>
> Hope that answers your questions.
> Jenine Stanley
> jeninems at wowway.com
> http://www.twitter.com/jeninems
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of RJ Sandefur
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 9:26 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] the GDF ownership contract terms
>
> Marion, You keep refuring to comunity training. When and under what 
> conditionsdo they offer this? RJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 9:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] the GDF ownership contract terms
>
>
>> Jenine,
>>    My statement was not meant, in any way, to  imply that I "bargained"
>> with my agreement. What I meant was that GDF offered community
>> training, something I was seeking as I did not have the ability to
>> attend a campus, so I compromised my own interest for the terms of the
>> contract. As for the breed of dog, I requested a German Shepherd and
>> was told one was not available, so I agreed to whatever dog was best
>> suited for the work it would do for me. Around the time they were
>> looking for a match for me, I was advised a Shepherd was coming
>> available and I was asked if I would be willing to wait a little
>> longer for a dog so they could finish the Shepherd and see if he would
> work for me.
>>    as for the term of the agreement referring to the age, I will need
>> to find my agreement and look at it again. I'm not sure where I got
>> the "five-year-old" provision, but it sticks in my head for some
>> reason. I will let the list know what I find.
>>
>> Fraternally yours,
>> Marion
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jenine Stanley" <jeninems at wowway.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 4:00 PM
>> Subject: [nagdu] the GDF ownership contract terms
>>
>>
>>>I would like to speak to the terms Marion quoted regarding ownership
>>>and the  contract we require for all graduates of the Guide dog
>>>foundation.
>>>
>>> Marion stated that his contract said that if the dog was less than 5
>>> years old, we would require that it come back for evaluation. He also
>>> stated that he agreed to this term in order to get home training and
>>> receive a German Shepherd.
>>>
>>> I wanted to clarify a few things about these statements. I have
>>> worked at the Foundation since 2008 and our ownership agreement has
>>> not changed since then. I was also on class to receive a dog during
>>> that time and have a copy of my own such agreement. The actual term
>>> from the contract used for every graduate of our program receiving
>>> ownership states:
>>>
>>> "If within twenty-four months after placement I choose to discontinue
>>> use of the dog as a Guide Dog for the purpose trained, I will inform
>>> the Foundation immediately. The Foundation has the option to evaluate
>>> and reassign the dog to another qualified recipient."
>>>
>>> this contract is standard and is not modified for the purposes of
>>> bargaining or receiving specific services, breeds of dog, etc. Each
>>> graduate receives a copy of this contract in print and on CD in MS
>>> Word in the Going Home packet. The contract is signed by Wells B.
>>> Jones, our Chief Executive Officer, and any other agreements or
>>> promises outside of this signed contract related to ownership are not
>>> valid.
>>>
>>> We determine length and location of training based on very individual
>>> factors such as ability to work with a guide dog,  availability of
>>> staff, location of applicant, etc.
>>>
>>> though we try to honor breed and gender preferences, the safety of
>>> the team is the most important factor. If our instructors feel we do
>>> not have a dog of the breed and/or gender that will appropriately
>>> match the applicant's needs, we will not place just any dog of the
>>> preferred breed or gender.
>>>
>>> If you have any further questions about our application procedures,
>>> please contact me off this list. Please know that we will not discuss
>>> individual graduates with anyone and that terms for custody versus
>>> ownership upon graduation are confidential and made on an individual
>>> basis.
>>>
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> Consumer Relations Coordinator
>>> Guide Dog Foundation(R)  and America's VetDogs (R) the Veterans K-9
>>> Corps
>>> (R) Providing Second Sight since 1946
>>> 371 E. Jericho Turnpike, Smithtown, NY 11787
>>> Office: 631-930-9000,
>>> Toll-free: 866-282-8047
>>> Fax 631-930-9009
>>> jenine at guidedog.org
>>>
>>> To make a donation that can change a life... contact the Guide Dog
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>>> Veterans
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>>>
>>> Visit us on facebook at:
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>>>
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> jeninems at wowway.com
>>> http://www.twitter.com/jeninems
>>>
>>>
>>>
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