[nagdu] bad handlers

[The Pawpower Pack]

Cala, 
Many guide dogs are trained this way, that the harness equals work time and no harness equals play or free time.  Because my dogs do more for me than just guide, they work even at home or in a hotel room for example not wearing the harness.  She  is working in public, of course, but she is also working at home or at the dog park and I expect that if, she's playing and an alarm goes off that she will stop playing and alert.  My dog has to have enough of a work ethic to stop doing something she sees as fun and do her job. 
This carries over into the harness work. 

Rox 
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On Mar 16, 2012, at 10:29 AM, Cala Estes <cala.estes at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've never had a guide dog, but I'm planning to get one in the future.
> Here's where I think the problem of petting in harnis lies. I'm
> assuming that the schools train the dogs to know that harnis =
> worktime. Out of harnis = freetime. If you let the dog get too much
> petting in harnis, that classical conditioning of harnis to work will
> get messed up, and the dog may forget that harnis = work time when
> they need to be on point and not expecting pets. If they expect pets
> in harnis, it may distract them.
> 
> I don't think it makes you a bad handler at all if you let the dog
> have pets in harnis as long as he or she is obeying your commands to
> sit and whatever. However, if the dog is distracted anyway, and isn't
> listening, that may not be the best time to allow pets in harnis.
> 
> Cala
> 
> On 3/16/12, Hannah Chadwick <sparklylicious at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Rox,
>> I agree with you. I do the same, but not strangers. I let my friends pet
>> Princess if she's not doing anything while in harness, but only  sometimes.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] bad handlers
>> 
>> I let people pet my dog in harness if she is not busy and if they ask.  I
>> never thought this made me a "bad handler."  I think it is not helpful to
>> make sweeping judgements about others.
>> 
>> Rox
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 16, 2012, at 9:14 AM, Mariea Harris <mharris1979 at carolina.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I also can't stand people who totally treat their guide like it's a pet
>> dog. Letting people pet it in harness and not re-working issues or
>> automatically thinking it is the other person's fault if the dog bumped him
>> or her into someone. Also, letting others verbally correct their dog instead
>> of saying "Buffy is go after a cookie."
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mariea and Valiant
>>> 
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