[nagdu] bad handlers

[Tracy Carcione]

Rox, I agree with your approach (and I'm not deaf). :.)  It's just a lot
easier for me to control my dog than to control other people, especially
strangers.  So I teach my dog to ignore anyone who's not family, and even
they're debatable.
I suspect people pat Ben all the time without asking, especially on the
city bus.  But he doesn't react, so it's no big deal.
Yesterday, I was standing outside a restaurant, waiting for a friend, and
a lady came swooping up, said "hi handsome!" patted Ben, and dashed off. 
We were both like "huh?".  But Ben didn't get excited, so neither did I.

I've had 6 dogs now, and none of them have gotten over-excited about
strangers.  I don't know if it's the luck of the draw, or something I do,
but I begin to suspect the latter. Remember that discussion we were having
with Steve a while back?  Maybe, if your dogs keep turning out with
similar habits and attitudes, they're picking them up from you?
Tracy

> I have no idea if someone talks to my dog. I'm Deaf so really can't police
> people.  I have to trust that my dog will ignore it.  I do teach this from
> a very young age and make sure to do plenty of set up situations with her
> when I know someone is speaking to her and I can teach her the appropriate
> thing to do.
> But if you only saw me in public totally oblivious to people ordering my
> dog around people may think I'm a bad handler for not stopping it.  I
> guess I'm saying that people come from all different points of view and
> with all different situations.  We really can't judge.
>
>
> Rox
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 16, 2012, at 11:43 AM, "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I don't ne ccessarily think those who let there dogs be pet in harness
>> are bad handlers.  Nor do I think those who let others tell there dog
>> what to do.  However in the latter case, I think the handler should
>> develop enough confidence to say something.  I let others give Holly
>> orders in the house but never when I'm working her!
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Pawpower Pack"
>> <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 11:54 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] bad handlers
>>
>>
>>> I guess my point is that we are all different, we do what is right for
>>> each situation, and what works for someone may not work for the next
>>> person.
>>> If people ask to pet my dog and I'm not doing anything, I may say yes.
>>> If a blind or Deafblind client wants to touch my dog to check out her
>>> equipment or to get an understanding of how a dog can guide a person I
>>> will let them.  I think it's a very personal choice because every dog
>>> is different.
>>>
>>>
>>> Rox
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 16, 2012, at 10:14 AM, "Hannah Chadwick"
>>> <sparklylicious at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rox,
>>>> I agree with you. I do the same, but not strangers. I let my friends
>>>> pet
>>>> Princess if she's not doing anything while in harness, but only
>>>> sometimes.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of The Pawpower Pack
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:09 AM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] bad handlers
>>>>
>>>> I let people pet my dog in harness if she is not busy and if they ask.
>>>>  I
>>>> never thought this made me a "bad handler."  I think it is not helpful
>>>> to
>>>> make sweeping judgements about others.
>>>>
>>>> Rox
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 16, 2012, at 9:14 AM, Mariea Harris
>>>> <mharris1979 at carolina.rr.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I also can't stand people who totally treat their guide like it's a
>>>>> pet
>>>> dog. Letting people pet it in harness and not re-working issues or
>>>> automatically thinking it is the other person's fault if the dog
>>>> bumped him
>>>> or her into someone. Also, letting others verbally correct their dog
>>>> instead
>>>> of saying "Buffy is go after a cookie."
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mariea and Valiant
>>>>>
>>>>>
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