[nagdu] Ownership of guide dog

[rhonda cruz]

 hi tracy.
 i think we should get ownership.
 after class.
.. . i think it's our dogs. anyway.
 but that is how i see it.

On Mar 20, 2012, at 6:40 AM, Tracy Carcione wrote:

> If one signs a contract, isn't it binding, even if the terms are
> ridiculous?  After all, you theoretically read it, and definitely agreed
> to it.
> Tracy
> 
>> Ava,
>>    Since the contract one signs with the training programs is a legally
>> binding agreement, should an allegation of abuse, neglect, or maltreatment
>> be made, the terms of the agreement and their legality would be reviewed.
>> In
>> the case of Fidelco, for instance, a legal expert in the area of consumer
>> and ownership rights has told me the terms of Fidelco's agreement would
>> likely be deemed unenforceable. It basically states, "You own your dog
>> unless we decide you don't!" Such contradictory language is logically
>> flawed.
>>    As for the terms of other agreements I have seen, the programs
>> generally
>> use the terms "evidence of abuse, neglect, or maltreatment" when referring
>> to their right to repossess a dog. In such cases, I would assume the legal
>> procedures and definitions of "evidence" would be used.
>> 
>> Fraternally yours,
>> Marion Gwizdala
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ava Foster" <avapup.7 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 9:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Ownership of guide dog
>> 
>> 
>>> Thank you all for your answers to my question about which programs
>>> grant total ownership. It's not that I'd mind having a contract
>>> stating a program could take a dog for abuse or such, but what worries
>>> me is, who determines what constitutes that abuse, such as in the
>>> example which I believe involved Fidelco. As an owner-trainer who
>>> would NEVER abuse a dog, I'd hate to think that asking for help could
>>> result in having a beloved family memer taken away. Thanks again! Ava
>>> 
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